Hillary isn't making sense. How does 'debate' on Bernie's single payer plan equal Obamacare repeal?

[99th_Monkey]

Hillary isn't making sense. How does 'debate' on Bernie's single payer plan equal Obamacare repeal?
By Ian Reifowitz * Saturday Jan 30, 2016 * Daily Kos

I’m a bit, shall we say, confused by Secretary Clinton’s criticism of Senator Sanders’ call to implement a single payer health care plan. On Friday she declared that such a plan is an "idea that will never, ever come to pass." We can agree or disagree on the soundness of that prediction, but that’s at least a coherent statement. Then she continued:

I want you to understand why I am fighting so hard for the Affordable Care Act. I don't want it repealed. I don't want us to be thrown back into a terrible, terrible national debate. I don't want us to end up in gridlock. People can't wait. People who have health emergencies can't wait for us to have a theoretical debate about some better idea that will never, ever come to pass.

People can't wait. You daughter calls and says she has a mass in her forehead, you can't wait. You quit your job to take care of your sick daughter -- something I think a lot of us can relate to -- you can't wait.
In the words of Tom Hanks’ character in “Big”: I don’t get it. What she’s saying literally makes no sense. Talking about, debating, and either passing—or failing to pass—a single-payer health care plan won’t force anyone having a health emergency to “wait” for anything. Doing so won’t take health care coverage away from anyone. Doing so won’t “repeal” one iota of the Affordable Care Act until and unless a new law is not only passed but implemented.

If we end up in gridlock while discussing single payer, the Affordable Care Act remains in place. Surely Secretary Clinton knows this. Surely anyone who has even the slightest clue about how laws work in this country knows this. Yet she seems to be telling voters something different. She’s leaving them with the impression that even having a “terrible, terrible national debate” about single payer will somehow weaken or destroy the Affordable Care Act.

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/1/30/1477293/-Hillary-isn-t-making-sense-How-does-a-debate-on-single-payer-equal-Obamacare-repeal

[Fuddnik]

1. It's not intended to make sense.

It's intended to scare and confuse voters.

Of course she knows it, and knows she can't beat Sanders on policy. Her only alternative is to lie and confuse.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

2. It's meant to deceive voters in order to make them believe something that is not true.

I don't know about anyone else, but I believe that when someone sets out to deceive me, they don't have very much respect for me. I don't forget things like that.

[pangaia]

3. What is the matter with this woman?

Is she REALLY that ignorant?

No. Of course not.

She is making stuff up, as is so often the case.

Make them afraid. Make them VERY afraid.

[cali]

4. Nothing but trying to scare dems away from bernie

[Uncle Joe]

5. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, 99th_Monkey.

[djean111]

6. Politics of fear tactics, that's all this is. Flat-out lies.

Disgusting.

[jillan]

7. She's hoping the doublespeak will win over Obama voters - and hope none of them remember

when she was once for single payer as well.

[Kalidurga]

8. She has never made any sense to me.

[ypsfonos]

9. Ah the mendacious one!

It will not avail her to continue this path of deception!

[thesquanderer]

10. I'm waiting for the first Hillary supporter to actually defend this.

They're so quiet here that I had to check to make sure this wasn't in the Bernie group. Really, I don't know how anyone defends this, but I was sure someone would try. Maybe it's early...

[ljm2002]

13. That is truly awful...

...the sad thing is, I have rarely seen her this animated, one might say enthused, to make a point -- a point against single payer health care -- in other words, a Democrat attacking another Democrat on the subject of universal health care -- which in 2008 she thought was a terrible idea:

"Since when do Democrats attack one another on universal health care?"

There is room for disagreement, but there is not room for dishonesty and misrepresentation.

[jwirr]

11. My God how many more R lines can she push without joining

their party? Fear that we have lived with since 1980 and she thinks this is good?

As to repealing ACA - why would we have to? We already have a good part of a single payer program waiting and ready in our government - Medicare - all we have to do is expand and consolidate the existing healthcare programs we have.

There is indeed hope. Vote for Bernie.

[ljm2002]

12. It makes no sense because it is corporate-speak...

...it is intended to create the illusion that the speaker is saying something sensible, while they wave their hands over the actual substance of the issue, all so they can work to the advantage of their bottom line.

I've seen it oh, so many times in the corporate world and it's what I see from her. In her case it is not her own "bottom line" as such, but it is the "bottom line" of the whole rotting edifice of pay-to-play politics.