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firebrand80

(2,760 posts)
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 04:51 PM Jan 2016

Hillary calls for Democratic debate in Flint, Michigan

“We’ve agreed to an additional debate in N.H. and are currently in discussions to agree to additional debates — we think one of them should be in Flint," said campaign chairman John Podesta in a statement on Saturday afternoon, referring to the ongoing negotiations over scheduling new debates. The Sanders and Clinton camps agreed in principle to schedule new ones earlier on Saturday.


http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/hillary-clinton-debate-flint-michigan-218454#ixzz3ylN9TiUW
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Hillary calls for Democratic debate in Flint, Michigan (Original Post) firebrand80 Jan 2016 OP
Great Idea! n/t californiabernin Jan 2016 #1
Tell it to December Clinton. Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #4
Hey, better late than never! californiabernin Jan 2016 #6
She wants to say "I was the first to mention Flint in a debate." Not impressed. nt thereismore Jan 2016 #2
Probably, but Sanders has a lot more political points to score. n/t californiabernin Jan 2016 #9
Always. nt thereismore Jan 2016 #11
FYI-Bernie called for Snyder's resignation at least a day before Hillary JimDandy Jan 2016 #42
I did not know that. n/t californiabernin Jan 2016 #44
She already was the first one to speak on it on either side bigdarryl Jan 2016 #23
Bernie called for Snyder's resignation before she mentioned Flint. nt thereismore Jan 2016 #33
As if she didn't exploit the people of Flint enough already! loyalsister Jan 2016 #36
Hillary is doing a lot of calling for debate nowadays. She did a good thing bringing attention to Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #3
Yes, yes that is rather obvious. Still, we get another debate, so it's all good! californiabernin Jan 2016 #12
She wants to use Flint as a pawn. Black people have always been JRLeft Jan 2016 #13
There it is. SMC22307 Jan 2016 #41
only if all the press in attendance are forced to drink the tap water so they can report 1st-hand Kip Humphrey Jan 2016 #5
+1 Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #8
But that might make them hostile and lower their IQ. Qutzupalotl Jan 2016 #18
although I agree that the press often suppresses the truth Karma13612 Jan 2016 #62
Shameful pandering. Flint, MI has nothing at all to do with national politics. I think they can libdem4life Jan 2016 #7
Obama declared it a federal emergency JI7 Jan 2016 #17
as he should have. libdem4life Jan 2016 #26
Flint has EVERYTHING to do with national politics firebrand80 Jan 2016 #19
Just no. Imagine being a parent of a dead or ill child with press set up on their lawn., libdem4life Jan 2016 #32
That is exactly the reaction I had/have. kristopher Jan 2016 #35
Not grandstanding...and dragging in the Other Party to do it. Imagine the questions. libdem4life Jan 2016 #40
An early thread to day said dates & places were agreed upon by the campaigns HereSince1628 Jan 2016 #56
What dates and places? I didn't see it. Won't change my mind, but best to know. libdem4life Jan 2016 #57
The excerpt I saw didn't say just that 4 more were agreed on and that HereSince1628 Jan 2016 #59
I am very impressed that she wants to draw attention to the crisis in Flint. eom asuhornets Jan 2016 #10
Well, we all do. californiabernin Jan 2016 #14
No she wants to use black people, she could give a damn about us. JRLeft Jan 2016 #15
Let all Americans decide if this is a political ploy...I trust you, them and all of us to decide.n/t californiabernin Jan 2016 #20
Well I'm Black as well.. asuhornets Jan 2016 #21
Has she? kristopher Jan 2016 #37
This is not about HRC. Can you imagine if they had asked for a debate at Katrina? libdem4life Jan 2016 #39
Please! JRLeft Jan 2016 #47
when does Michigan vote ? JI7 Jan 2016 #16
March 8th ErisDiscordia Jan 2016 #52
Glad to see more debates, but could she be any less transparent? frylock Jan 2016 #22
Wow. She'll even use death and tragedy to further her political ambitions. No, no, no, no, no, no, in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #24
I just think the more debates the better. californiabernin Jan 2016 #30
She's not Queen Hillary. She doesn't get to dictate what happens with the debate schedule anymore. in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #46
Bring it Truprogressive85 Jan 2016 #25
Word! n/t californiabernin Jan 2016 #27
Yes! jillan Jan 2016 #29
Yep. This could blow up in their faces. frylock Jan 2016 #54
Then there should be one in Porter Ranch because that is not getting enough coverage. jillan Jan 2016 #28
'We've agreed,' elleng Jan 2016 #31
I hope Bernie refuses she can debate herself. Her campaign reeks of desperation Autumn Jan 2016 #34
And I hope he says he does not want to be a part of exploiting a local tragedy loyalsister Jan 2016 #38
If I were from Flint, I'd find this offensive. To be looking at sickness, lower IQ's and problems ViseGrip Jan 2016 #43
How's the DNC coming along with sanctioning more debates? winter is coming Jan 2016 #45
Excellent! pandr32 Jan 2016 #48
A City NAFTA Destroyed, BRILLIANT!!! Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #49
Crazy bad. Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #50
Not very smart kcjohn1 Jan 2016 #51
It it is a 2 hour debate, there will be plenty of time for trade policies Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #61
They stepped right into this one. frylock Jan 2016 #55
Obama has declared a state of emergency in Flint Arazi Jan 2016 #53
I say bring it... Kalidurga Jan 2016 #58
Grandstanding... ljm2002 Jan 2016 #60
absolutely agree. really shameful. eom Karma13612 Jan 2016 #63
 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
23. She already was the first one to speak on it on either side
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 05:14 PM
Jan 2016

That's why the.Mayor is supporting her

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
3. Hillary is doing a lot of calling for debate nowadays. She did a good thing bringing attention to
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 04:54 PM
Jan 2016

Flint. Sadly, I can't help but get the feeling that she's trying to make political hay out of it on a demographic level.

Kip Humphrey

(4,753 posts)
5. only if all the press in attendance are forced to drink the tap water so they can report 1st-hand
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 04:56 PM
Jan 2016

what Flint residents have been subjected to for almost TWO YEARS!

Karma13612

(4,547 posts)
62. although I agree that the press often suppresses the truth
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 07:51 PM
Jan 2016

and spins to mislead, I don't see why the press should be made to drink the water in this case.

I believe the emergency personnel and the Gov. and other administrative officials should be help accountable and/or fired.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
7. Shameful pandering. Flint, MI has nothing at all to do with national politics. I think they can
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 04:58 PM
Jan 2016

handle it now without bringing the entourage of press, candidates, others from all over, into their town.

I'll say it again...shameful or shameless...probably both.

firebrand80

(2,760 posts)
19. Flint has EVERYTHING to do with national politics
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 05:08 PM
Jan 2016

Environmental issues, crumbling infrastructure, political influence of poor and minority communities, access to health care, government corruption...even access to water isn't a national issue yet, but it may well be someday soon.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
32. Just no. Imagine being a parent of a dead or ill child with press set up on their lawn.,
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 05:24 PM
Jan 2016

microphones shoved in their faces. "So sorry your child died. What does it feel like?"

No. They have their hands full. Thank goodness the word is out and water is coming in. And it may well be a plank to energize just what you say, but we don't need to glamorize it and intrude, even for the sake of the environment...for the Live at 11 Crew.

What a political circus...barkers and all...that would be. Poor judgment.

I have some experience with this...and the involved people want FEMA, the Disaster Declarations, and all the other things that will HELP. The Press ... no. Let them go hunt out Other Places...that would be helpful.

I can just see Geraldo Rivera now. Ugh.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
35. That is exactly the reaction I had/have.
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 05:31 PM
Jan 2016

It demonstrates a blindness to the pain of other's that troubles me greatly. The number one characteristic I want in a leader is genuine empathy.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
40. Not grandstanding...and dragging in the Other Party to do it. Imagine the questions.
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 05:41 PM
Jan 2016

Who would moderate? Would the victims get the front seats, or behind the Debaters?

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
56. An early thread to day said dates & places were agreed upon by the campaigns
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 07:25 PM
Jan 2016

So I don't know what else there is to say...

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
59. The excerpt I saw didn't say just that 4 more were agreed on and that
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 07:40 PM
Jan 2016

cities and dates were agreed upon.

asuhornets

(2,405 posts)
21. Well I'm Black as well..
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 05:13 PM
Jan 2016

And I support her in presidential candidacy as well her support in helping people in Flint. Hillary has been very strong with African-American issues as well as her husband. You speak as if you know her personally. Hillary Clinton character speaks for itself. She is strong and still standing. There is nothing the Republicans nor the Sanders supporters can do about that.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
37. Has she?
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 05:33 PM
Jan 2016

I'm of the view that the Hillary/Bill record is mixed at best. Would you mind sharing the positive things re addressing racism that have impressed you about her.?

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
39. This is not about HRC. Can you imagine if they had asked for a debate at Katrina?
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 05:39 PM
Jan 2016

Or a debate at the side of the George Washington Bridge.

No. Stop with the politicizing...HRC vs Bernie...just can't stop. Doesn't belong in Flint, MI.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
24. Wow. She'll even use death and tragedy to further her political ambitions. No, no, no, no, no, no,
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 05:16 PM
Jan 2016

no, no, no, no, no, no!

Sanctioned DNC debates are sanctioned DNC debates. Now that she knows she's going to lose, debates are important. When she thought herself inevitable, SHE OPTED FOR, fewer debates. SHE set the schedule. Now she should have to live with it.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

 

californiabernin

(421 posts)
30. I just think the more debates the better.
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 05:21 PM
Jan 2016

If a particular candidate will only agree to a particular debate at a particular venue, so be it. Better than less debates!

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
46. She's not Queen Hillary. She doesn't get to dictate what happens with the debate schedule anymore.
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 05:50 PM
Jan 2016

She already did! Now that she's going to lose, she's all of a sudden had a change of heart? I don't think so. When Bernie and O'Malley were calling for more debates (when she thought she was inevitable), she IGNORED THE PLEAS, so no. She's not in charge. She only thinks she is.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
38. And I hope he says he does not want to be a part of exploiting a local tragedy
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 05:38 PM
Jan 2016

or the people who are suffering through it.

I'm sure Hillary is already trying to contact as many families as possible to trot out disabled children as their parents endorse. Telethon politics.

 

ViseGrip

(3,133 posts)
43. If I were from Flint, I'd find this offensive. To be looking at sickness, lower IQ's and problems
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 05:44 PM
Jan 2016

invitro, I'd be looking for a different 'kind of conversation', maybe. But a political debate there, now?
I think it's in very poor taste. It just gives my gut a bad feeling.....

kcjohn1

(751 posts)
51. Not very smart
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 07:13 PM
Jan 2016

She didn't really want more debates, so this is her strategy to basically limit debate. She is hoping majority of the time Flint water crisis will be the topic and she can easily beat up on Republicans, and avoid substantical policy.

Hopefully Sanders can address the root of the problem in Flint, and that is NAFTA trade policies brought on by politicians like the Clintons.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
61. It it is a 2 hour debate, there will be plenty of time for trade policies
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 07:49 PM
Jan 2016

as well as mandatory sentencing and welfare reform.


Arazi

(6,829 posts)
53. Obama has declared a state of emergency in Flint
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 07:17 PM
Jan 2016

while I applaud any spotlight on the disaster there, Flint probably doesn't need the hordes of extras that would pour into town for the debate.

They need those water supplies for their usage, not as fodder for a political campaign


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/18/us/obama-flint-michigan-water-fema-emergency-disaster.html?_r=0

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
58. I say bring it...
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 07:39 PM
Jan 2016

But, they should bring some cash to Flint as well as the debate. I don't think that the campaigns can do this directly. But, they could ask people watching the debate to send some money to Flint instead of their campaigns. Like hey if you were gonna send twenty to me send fifteen instead send the rest to Flint for water and to help rebuild their infrastructure.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
60. Grandstanding...
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 07:42 PM
Jan 2016

...in the worst way.

I gave her credit when she first mentioned Flint. I was glad she did. Now she is trying to exploit that to her advantage in a hard-fought political campaign. It doesn't sit well. JMNSHO

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