2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThe Bernie Bros Are A Problem And The Sanders Campaign Is Trying To Stop Them
Bernie Sanders campaign is trying to rein in his unruly online men. Live by the Redditors, die by the Redditors.
FAIRFIELD, Iowa The internet is home to the best of the Bernie Sanders campaign the grassroots, youth-powered, bottom-up energy of social media fueled Sanderss challenge to Hillary Clinton.
But the social web has also shown off the worst of Sanders supporters. Writing in her endorsement of Clinton this week, progressive writer Joan Walsh complained of harassment from online supporters of Sanders that the Vermont senators campaign aides have been aware of for months. Walsh called them the Berniebot keyboard warriors, but theyre more commonly referred to as the Bernie Bros.
In fact, top Sanders campaign aides have quietly reached out to senior officials in the Clinton campaign and women like Walsh personally to apologize for Bro behavior. Online, aides are pushing their digital community to police itself and keep the Bros quiet. And some volunteer members of Sanderss digital army are scrambling into action, reporting offenders and moderating bro-y posts.
Still, the Bros break through, and theres real worry in corners of Sanders-world about it.
On Thursday, the BBC catalogued social media attacks on black pundits and women who opine on Bernie. Mashable posted a ton of screenshots of Bro attacks Friday morning.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/evanmcsan/the-bernie-bros#.ruk5d0Mqo
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)JudyM
(29,225 posts)Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)Professional shit stirrers to give conservative dems something to write about.
pandr32
(11,578 posts)And it is encouraging to see that the Sanders campaign is acknowledging that it is a real problem.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)jfern
(5,204 posts)Including David Brock, who runs her SuperPAC that she coordinates with. No one is running a campaign against her supporters. But Hillary has nothing else to attack Bernie with, so she attacks his supporters.
Punkingal
(9,522 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Big internets site. Lots of trolling goes on there.
Or the gif?
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Is a "redditor" an editor there or something?
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)jfern
(5,204 posts)Response to jfern (Reply #14)
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bvar22
(39,909 posts)Guess what?
Neither can Hillary, and her supporters on that site are no better.
frylock
(34,825 posts)DanTex
(20,709 posts)Hopefully people will listen.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Hillary supporters post about Bernie and Bernie supporters.
It's like they don't have a candidate at all.
FloridaBlues
(4,007 posts)Some pretty nasty onslaught has been done.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)Oh wait. She has Clarence Thomas pal David Brock on her campaign
TIME TO PANIC
(1,894 posts)Last edited Sun Jan 31, 2016, 01:04 AM - Edit history (1)
You know Trump wishes he could appeal to that crowd.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)They called us Deaniacs crazy and our candidate they said was worse than crazy. We were ridiculed and lectured constantly.
They treated us like children in 08, calling us a cult or worse....Hillary even used a little racism and sexism against Obama.
Now we are Berniebros or Sandernistas. And we are lectured by both campaigns as disruptive children.
Bernie has given us his lecture, now it is time for Hillary to reign her supporters in a little.
We may be crazy, but our enthusiasm more than makes up for that.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Obama campaign included "Hillary is a monster who will say anything to get elected" said by a woman who now holds high position as a result of those efforts. His supporters were relentless toward LGBT, his surrogates included invective spewing anti gay hate preachers and 'ex gays' who actually attacked LGBT at official Obama events.
Hillary and Bill were constantly saying things that seemed really condescending at best and very racist at worst about Obama. People on DU posted photos of lynchings and said Hillary's campaign was like a lynch mob. DU Hillary supporters are often on time outs or PPR'd for being incredibly nasty.
But Bernie's supporters are too harsh? 'She's like a lynch mob' is not harsh? 'She's a monster' is not harsh?
I don't get it.
JI7
(89,246 posts)(in 2012 he got it back to 04 level) and Clinton of course lost the black vote.
so they there were consequences for it.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)The 'Monster Shouter' is I think Ambassador to the UN. Cushy stuffs, these consequences.
JI7
(89,246 posts)arely staircase
(12,482 posts)nichomachus
(12,754 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)"We saw the face of the angry white female backlash against Obama over the weekend, and it was hard not to turn away. On Friday, Geraldine Ferraro complained in a Boston Globe Op-Ed that she's been demonized for saying that Obama's presidential run benefited from his being black, and called her treatment "reverse racism." On Saturday, Harriet Christian replaced Ferraro as the overwrought voice of white female resentment. There she was at the Democratic National Committee meeting, screaming at reporters that Democrats were about to nominate "an inadequate black male who would not have been running had it not been a white woman that was running for president."
Beyond Christian's deplorable reference to Obama as an "inadequate black male" was a wail worth hearing. She also said, "I'm proud to be an older American woman!" I can feel her pain. Reading the sexist attacks on Clinton and her white female supporters, as well as on female journalists and bloggers who've occasionally tried to defend her or critique Obama, has been, well, consciousness-raising. Prejudice against older women, apparently, is one of the last non-taboo biases. I've been stunned by the extent to which trashing Clinton supporters as washed up old white women is acceptable."
http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2008/06/the-damage-done/5117/
And here's a link to her Hillary endorsement which contains very similar criticism for Bernie and his supporters this time around. Every cycle she finds this exact same set of faults in the candidate she does not like. Template punditry.
http://www.thenation.com/article/why-im-supporting-hillary-clinton-with-joy-and-without-apologies/
One last Joan 2008 quote:
"I was struck when I got to Iowa and New Hampshire in January by how our media colleagues were just swooning over Barack Obama. That is not too strong a word. They were swooning. I was at a speech, I remember it, I will write about it some day, in Manchester, and every, the biggest names in our business were there, and they were, they could repeat some of his speech lines to one another. It was like a Bruce Springsteen concert where the fans sing along. And, you know, I respected it to some extent. Hes a towering political figure. Of our generation, hes probably the best politician, hes inspiring. And, reporters, white reporters, black reporters, reporters of every race, we want to get beyond racism in America. So, he was, he was inspiring, I understood it, theyre humans, they responded. The downside though is that they hate, hate Hillary Clinton, most of them. Hate is not too strong a word.
It's just sort of amazing to me that people don't try new stuff. She's phoning it in.
Number23
(24,544 posts)BLM over the summer. Don't get me wrong, I am ecstatic that Joan Walsh's piece has highlighted this bullying, brain dead and infantile behavior, but black folks caught it worse and first.
While there definitely was quite a bit of scrutiny then, particularly after a black Twitter user was so tired of being harassed by pro-Sanders Trolls that he created the #berniesoblack hash tag, but I don't remember the coverage being anywhere near this comprehensive nor this INTERNATIONAL. Even BBC has covered it. And I am completely unaware of the Sanders campaign doing anything about it either.
frylock
(34,825 posts)Enjoy your weekend! Two more days before shit gets real!
R B Garr
(16,950 posts)their internet practices and trying to shut people up. No wonder the Sanders campaign is worried.