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Sat Jan 30, 2016, 08:36 PM

NOT TOP SECRET AT THE TIME THEY WERE SENT period!

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Reply NOT TOP SECRET AT THE TIME THEY WERE SENT period! (Original post)
liberal N proud Jan 2016 OP
virtualobserver Jan 2016 #1
R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2016 #2
sadoldgirl Jan 2016 #3
DefenseLawyer Jan 2016 #4
restorefreedom Jan 2016 #5
SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2016 #9
JudyM Jan 2016 #15
restorefreedom Jan 2016 #16
SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2016 #17
restorefreedom Jan 2016 #20
global1 Jan 2016 #6
liberal N proud Jan 2016 #7
SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2016 #8
Fawke Em Jan 2016 #12
SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2016 #13
restorefreedom Jan 2016 #19
farleftlib Jan 2016 #14
farleftlib Jan 2016 #10
Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #11
kristopher Jan 2016 #18

Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Sat Jan 30, 2016, 08:39 PM

1. who cares about her damn emails

 

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Sat Jan 30, 2016, 08:41 PM

2. Dumbest thing for a SoS to do ever.

 

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Sat Jan 30, 2016, 08:44 PM

3. Does not make any difference for many people

and especially not to the scheming repugs.

The issue will be driven home that she makes
terrible decisions. Therefore her judgement
cannot be trusted.

It hit the front page in my lousy paper as well
as the editorials. Yes, I know it is a conservative paper,
but it is the major paper in the state.


I wished it only appeared on page18, but no
such luck.

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Sat Jan 30, 2016, 08:47 PM

4. It wasn't exactly a brilliant undertaking

 

I don't think she intended to do wrong and I don't think she broke any laws. Still, the nature of the job would suggest that the lack of security for a private server would have doomed that plan from the start.

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Sat Jan 30, 2016, 08:50 PM

5. not MARKED secret

the content dictates the marking whether or not its there
the marking does not dictate the content

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Response to restorefreedom (Reply #5)

Sat Jan 30, 2016, 09:46 PM

9. Exactly

I don't get why this is so hard to understand.

It's very telling to me that Hillary repeatedly says that she never sent or received anything that was marked as classified.

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Response to SickOfTheOnePct (Reply #9)

Sat Jan 30, 2016, 10:08 PM

15. Like Bill said, "it depends what the meaning of 'is' is."

Parsing meaning to squirm out of responsibility for clearly inappropriate actions.

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Response to SickOfTheOnePct (Reply #9)

Sat Jan 30, 2016, 10:09 PM

16. yup. she knows exactly what she is saying

if it wasn't classified she could just say i never sent anything classified. she knows that the classified designation exists whether or not it is marked. but she is hoping the voters are too stupid to see through her parsing. i think she is gonna be disappointed.

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Response to restorefreedom (Reply #16)

Sat Jan 30, 2016, 10:10 PM

17. Based on what I'm seeing around here from many posters

I'm not so sure she will be disappointed.

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Response to SickOfTheOnePct (Reply #17)

Sat Jan 30, 2016, 10:13 PM

20. i think they are on board no matter what.

outside the echo chamber its a different story. i hear people talking about it in the world, out of du. they get it.

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Sat Jan 30, 2016, 09:29 PM

6. How Does Something Not Top Secret Become Top Secret

after it's out there?

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Response to global1 (Reply #6)

Sat Jan 30, 2016, 09:34 PM

7. In a Republican world, anything is possible

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Response to global1 (Reply #6)

Sat Jan 30, 2016, 09:44 PM

8. Not being marked Top Secret

is completely different than not being Top Secret.

Undoubtedly the emails weren't marked Top Secret, but that doesn't mean they weren't Top Secret.

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Response to global1 (Reply #6)

Sat Jan 30, 2016, 09:54 PM

12. Because it was on a non-outward facing server that is VERY protected and watched 24/7.

What is alleged to have happened is that her staff, with clearance, saw it and typed it out in emails to send to her. You're not ALLOWED to do that.

And, top that off with the fact that her email wasn't on protected government servers, either, then you have the crime.

Yes, I know some government servers were hacked, but all of those had outward facing servers. SIPERnet and JWICS don't.

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Response to Fawke Em (Reply #12)

Sat Jan 30, 2016, 09:58 PM

13. Exactly

I'm dumbfounded by the notion that some people have, which is that if wasn't marked as classified, then it wasn't classified.

Classification markings don't dictate the classification of the content, the content dictates the markings.

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Response to SickOfTheOnePct (Reply #13)

Sat Jan 30, 2016, 10:10 PM

19. unfortunately for her, people are starting to figure it out. nt

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Response to Fawke Em (Reply #12)

Sat Jan 30, 2016, 10:03 PM

14. Thank you for that

 

I'm glad somebody here understands the ins and outs of secure servers. Every time I read one of your posts I feel like I have a better understanding of this issue.

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Sat Jan 30, 2016, 09:50 PM

10. She is such damaged goods

 

National Security and immigration are the only two things republicans care about and this is not going away, no matter how she tries to spin it. It may not have been illegal (I think it was), but it was definitely handled very badly. The republicans loathe her and the Dems are split about her. With a scandal of this nature that will be going on for many more months, Hillary needs to step down.

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Sat Jan 30, 2016, 09:52 PM

11. How many e-mails in total numbers were classifed "after" they were sent?

Thanks for the thread, liberal N proud.

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Response to Uncle Joe (Reply #11)

Sat Jan 30, 2016, 10:10 PM

18. If the information was taken from the secure net ...

... they were probably classified before being copied.

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