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pinebox

(5,761 posts)
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 04:17 AM Jan 2016

HRC 2003: I am adamantly against illegal immigrants. 2015: I believe immigrants deserve citizenship

Well, here is another example of how she has "evolved" on this. Or is it the north wind now blows out of the south?
Bernie on the other hand has been basically rock solid in his core principles.
This is quite long at 25 minutes but just wow......more reason why we need #FeelTheBern!



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HRC 2003: I am adamantly against illegal immigrants. 2015: I believe immigrants deserve citizenship (Original Post) pinebox Jan 2016 OP
I am glad she has "evolved" loyalsister Jan 2016 #1
We came. We saw. He died. pinebox Jan 2016 #3
Devolution loyalsister Jan 2016 #5
flip-flopping is the new career politicain's opportunism. Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #7
Truth! pinebox Jan 2016 #12
Bernie is Jenny_92808 Jan 2016 #2
He is! pinebox Jan 2016 #4
I'm against illegal immigration too, I'd rather have it all quickly legalized with a swipe of a pen uponit7771 Jan 2016 #6
Would it be sophistry to argue one of our candidates aligned themselves with the Minutemen?/nt DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #9
Of course it is BlueMTexpat Jan 2016 #10
+1, or aligned themselves with legislation that helped the group... last time I posted uponit7771 Jan 2016 #20
Uh yes she did say she is against illegal immigration pinebox Jan 2016 #13
Great, I'm against ILLEGAL immigration too... I'm not against immigration though, that's what uponit7771 Jan 2016 #21
Camp Weathervane... AZ Progressive Jan 2016 #8
Indeed! pinebox Jan 2016 #14
One of the many many many many many faces of Hillary Clinton. nt nc4bo Jan 2016 #11
Yup & I don't get it pinebox Jan 2016 #15
Last day! Gotta get the Hillary bashing in before the bell! DanTex Jan 2016 #16
HRC: 2015: Send the Child migrants back to CA; Ooops, let them stay.... amborin Jan 2016 #17
Ya THAT! Why does anybody support her? Jeez people wake up! pinebox Jan 2016 #18
But but but... ljm2002 Jan 2016 #19

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
1. I am glad she has "evolved"
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 04:35 AM
Jan 2016

But that evolution cannot be seperated from her ambition enough for us to know if it has been sincere or opportunistic.
She most definitely has not evolved on foreign policy. In fact, she seems to have developed a very creepy, kill happy streak.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
5. Devolution
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 04:56 AM
Jan 2016

It's kind of odd, because when it comes to single-payer, and compassion for children and families she has also devolved. The only explanation that seems plausible is that she has just exploited people over and over again by offering hope or tearing it down in the interest of her ambition.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
7. flip-flopping is the new career politicain's opportunism.
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 05:06 AM
Jan 2016

Just as long as you don't flip-flop on benefiting the top 1 % and its corporations.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
6. I'm against illegal immigration too, I'd rather have it all quickly legalized with a swipe of a pen
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 05:04 AM
Jan 2016

... and then a 2 week citizenship path.... maybe... if they'd like to take it that long.

HRC never said she's against immigrants or immigration... she's said some stupid crap about the kids that came over that wasn't well thought through but no ones perfect...

She didn't call PP "establishment" or some crap like that

Sophistry is an indicator of weak positions

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
20. +1, or aligned themselves with legislation that helped the group... last time I posted
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 07:09 PM
Jan 2016

... link to Sanders vote I got hidden

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
21. Great, I'm against ILLEGAL immigration too... I'm not against immigration though, that's what
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 07:09 PM
Jan 2016

... the GOP is against and they fight tooth and nail to make sure people from other countries can't come over here

amborin

(16,631 posts)
17. HRC: 2015: Send the Child migrants back to CA; Ooops, let them stay....
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 12:08 PM
Jan 2016
Summer 2015:

Hillary Clinton Defends Call To Deport Child Migrants
www.huffingtonpost.com/.../hillary-clinton-child-mi...

The Huffington Post
Aug 19, 2015 - Hillary Clinton this week defended her call to deport children from the U.S. who are fleeing violence in Central America. Speaking at a press ...


Hillary Clinton: Unaccompanied Minors 'Should Be Sent Back'
www.huffingtonpost.com/.../hillary-clinton-immigra...
The Huffington Post
Jun 18, 2014 - But faced with reports of misperceptions in Central America that minors ... children from families is not who we are as Americans, then Hillary ...

OOPS: this position is NOT WORKING....Gotta change it:


Winter 2015:

Hillary Says She's Concerned With Plan To Deport Immigrants
dailycaller.com/.../in-apparent-flip-flop-hillary-now-says...

Dec 26, 2015 - Clinton had recently called for deporting children. ... Now Says She's Concerned With Plan To Deport Central American Families [VIDEO].

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
19. But but but...
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 12:17 PM
Jan 2016

...that was MONTHS ago! Yesterday's news! She's evolved now! Why do you keep bringing up this old stuff? Waaah!

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