"Tell me something real."

[FuzzyRabbit]

This is old, but I think it is telling. From https://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/06/17/1394018/-The-difference-between-Bernie-Sanders-and-Hillary-Clinton-in-one-paragraph?detail=emailclassic

The dialogue between Hillary and a Harvard Medical School physician supporting single-payer -- accompanying Bernie to his meeting at the White House -- is important for the record.

They got their meeting at the White House that month, and the two doctors laid out the case for single-payer to the first lady. “She said, ‘You make a convincing case, but is there any force on the face of the earth that could counter the hundreds of millions of the dollars the insurance industry would spend fighting that?’” recalled Himmelstein. “And I said, “How about the president of the United States actually leading the American people?’ and she said, ‘Tell me something real.’ ”

[RiverLover]

1. How embarrassing for US, that other countries' leaders were somehow able to do this for their

people, but its too unreal for our leaders.

Money is just more important than Americans. Go hillary! yay!

WTF?

[Ed Suspicious]

16. How embarrassing indeed. An indictment of unadulterated capitalism

if I had ever heard one.

[AZ Progressive]

2. Imagine if JFK and MLK thought like that...

Or George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, and Theodore Roosevelt.

[ypsfonos]

3. !

Pragmatic no. Spineless yes!

[Hiraeth]

4. gross

[Armstead]

5. At least that's one thing she is consistent on

Progressive reform? Nope. Not real.

But corporate empowerment....well, that's do-able.

[Ed Suspicious]

17. Progressivism is but a means to her wealthy end.

[Punkingal]

6. Yet she says all the time how she was at the forefront of the health care fight.

She's been fighting for it since 1993.

[artislife]

7. When we would actually like her to fight for something

and she takes a pass.

Another disappointment with h.

[LWolf]

8. "Tell me something real."

Four short words that explain everything.

[Moostache]

12. Seals my vote. Should be a disqualifier for the Democratic nominee, period (n/t)

[LWolf]

23. I agree. nt

[JudyM]

9. Well, apparently she's the Arbiter of Reality.

[roguevalley]

10. Oh shit. I never heard this thing. She is completely without conscience.

[Uncle Joe]

11. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, FuzzyRabbit.

[MisterP]

13. "how do we get something done" vs. "how do we do something without looking bad"

[99Forever]

14. The real Hillary.

It's how she rolls.

[highprincipleswork]

15. I hate being served the same old shit by someone who claims they will serve it slightly warmer.

All because all that is good and not yet fully in existence seems kind of "unreal".

That is a lack of vision or ambition, if you ask me, and I want none of it.

How does that philosophy stack up against some of the great who have been torn from us? Or as Teddy Kennedy so eloquently stated about his fallen brother at Bobby's funeral,

My brother need not be idealized, or enlarged in death beyond what he was in life; to be remembered simply as a good and decent man, who saw wrong and tried to right it, saw suffering and tried to heal it, saw war and tried to stop it.

Those of us who loved him and who take him to his rest today, pray that what he was to us and what he wished for others will some day come to pass for all the world.

As he said many times, in many parts of this nation, to those he touched and who sought to touch him:

Some men see things as they are and say why.
I dream things that never were and say why not.

[thesquanderer]

18. And others dream of things that could be and think "how can I make money on it?" (nt)

[highprincipleswork]

22. oh, have to admit, that's pretty funny. I did, in face, LOL. Just couldn't help it.

[cantbeserious]

19. HRC - Capitulating Early And Often To The 1% - Leaving The 99% In The Dust

eom

[gyroscope]

20. Whoa. Bernie needs to put this quote in a campaign commercial PRONTO

and saturate the airwaves along with the "Never, ever, ever" video.

When the public gets to see who the real Hillary is she'll go down faster than the Titanic.

[highprincipleswork]

21. Let me for a moment just share what was REAL for two of the Democratic Greats - Bobby & Teddy

All the speech great and worth listening to. The last words probably the best known.

My brother need not be idealized, or enlarged in death beyond what he was in life; to be remembered simply as a good and decent man, who saw wrong and tried to right it, saw suffering and tried to heal it, saw war and tried to stop it.

Those of us who loved him and who take him to his rest today, pray that what he was to us and what he wished for others will some day come to pass for all the world.

As he said many times, in many parts of this nation, to those he touched and who sought to touch him:

Some men see things as they are and say why.
I dream things that never were and say why not.

I am grateful when anyone like Bobby comes forth to fight so hard for the common man.

I will, no doubt, be criticized for this at this particular website for feeling this so strongly, but I was around for Bobby and love him still and mourn his passing, and I find Bernie Sanders also to be just such a man.

http://www.history.com/topics/robert-f-kennedy/videos/history-uncut-ted-kennedys-eulogy-for-bobby-1968

[hopemountain]

24. priceless. cold as

a glacier. who popped her bubble? when did she trade in her idealism for a better america - to queen of the corporate dons and the war machine? i am starting to think perhaps she never had it other than to control and rule. but then again, i was taught that one's light and goodness is proportional to their darkness and mean heartedness. it is about choice. how can she hope for any kind of bright future for her grand daughter with such a legacy of bitterness, shrewdness, and a cold heart?

[sadoldgirl]

25. Bernie has said from the beginning on

to all his audiences: THINK BIG!

Others are telling us:think small,very small.

I want a president, who is a visionary,

not a tinkerer.