Michael Moore on Twitter- Hillary "to the right of Obama & will move us backwards, not forward"

[fwiff]

The whole tweet:

The are many good things about Hillary. But it's clear she's to the right of Obama & will move us backwards, not forward. Sad. Very sad.


There's no doubt who he's supporting!

And will someone please post that chart with the difference between Bernie, Hillary and the republicans?

[JRLeft]

1. She truly is a moderate republican. She would have been a republican in the '80s.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

3. So when the main Republican of the 80's, Reagan, laughed at the people dying

from AIDS, would she have laughed with him?

[JRLeft]

7. She laughed at Gadaffi's death so it wouldn't surprise me if she did.

[wyldwolf]

18. I laughed at his death, too. He was a butcher

[JRLeft]

21. Hillary is responsible for mega death in the middle east so her judgment is a major question mark.

[wyldwolf]

22. and Gadaffi was an asshole

[libdem4life]

26. It's not our job to go into other countries and kill assholes. They sprout up like Flopsie's

Bunnies, or Hydra's heads...chop one off and two or more are grown. I mean right now, think of all the assholes that we know of....who wants to volunteer?

No, trust me, we are very, very selective about which assholes we murder. And in the process, a lot of those who are not. And who is responsible for the families and children when it's our guns and our soldiers? We are.

It needs to stop. Now.

[wyldwolf]

28. SO glad he got taken out.

[libdem4life]

29. Well, that's nice. So, who is next...how many should we target...how can we murder some

and let assholes live. That's hardly fair. Was he the incubator cord puller-outer guy...I forget.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

107. Tony Blair was a big pal of Ghadaffi

[libdem4life]

114. And Hillary was a big fan of Henry Kissinger...speaking of Aholes.

[Chef Eric]

37. I'm not. What's there now is even worse.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/the-west-is-silent-as-libya-falls-into-the-abyss-9833489.html

http://www.economist.com/news/middle-east-and-africa/21678761-chaos-libyas-civil-war-has-allowed-islamic-state-consolidate-its-position

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libyan_Civil_War_%282014%E2%80%93present%29

[senz]

72. Exactly. Perfect example of reckless ignorance.

When John Kerry took over, I actually felt safer.

[Got it]

38. Disgusting ...

... Hillary sure is your perfect candidate. I want no part of it.

[Hortensis]

73. Moore did tweet that, post amended.

Googling that claim only brought up her post here, but it is on Twitter. Sorry, fwiff, but I do check everything.

[beam me up scottie]

75. What are you talking about? I just looked and it's right there on his Twitter page!

@MMFlint

[Hortensis]

85. For once you are right. Thanks

for such a prompt response. Moore is twittering hard for Bernie. I am disappointed in his judgment, but maybe he just wants Bernie to be viable longer. Or maybe he has a secret plan for winning the general despite Bernie's multiple and serious weaknesses...

[beam me up scottie]

92. And as usual you were wrong, you're welcome.

Why wouldn't he back Bernie, did you really think her good will gesture in Flint would sway him?

[Hortensis]

101. Lol.

"See" you in Iowa.

[passiveporcupine]

80. You didn't scroll far enough down his page, did you?

What happened, did all the negative stuff he had to say about Hillary scare you off?

[Hortensis]

88. No, just googled and it wasn't there.

[passiveporcupine]

94. Then how is it possible I googled and saw it?

Did your google bring up his twitter page? Here you go.

https://twitter.com/mmflint

It's right under the chart he posts of "It's not hard to see the true colors of the candidates"

I swear, you can't miss it. Unless you want to.

[senz]

105. Maybe google likes you better.

[sabrina 1]

135. Nelson Mandella and Bishop Tutu called Gadaffi 'brother', the leader of an African nation

whose murder was a war crime, which both of them stated 'no decent person could approve of' referring to Hillary's awful statement which will haunt her forever.

Gadaffi helped Mandella end Apartheid and for that many Africans from many African nations will always remember him.

To the Imperial West of course, like so many people of color, he was a 'problem'. He dared to want to keep Libya's resources under the control of Libya and use them to help other African nations, which he did.

But hey, the world knows that White Imperialists have tradtionally murdered Africans and Brown people for profit.

I like Mandella and Bishop Tutu was saddened that this country, who succeeded in ending Imperial Britain's rule here, have now become what our young nation abhorred.

Forgive me if I share the opinions of two of the world's most respected African leaders, that 'no decent person could applaud the war crime that the was the murder of one more African leader.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

142. Why? What foreign policy goal did this serve? Who replaced him? How does Libya look today?

Why did you celebrate such a monumental fuckup?

[JRLeft]

32. He was and she was friends with him until it wasn't popular anymore.

[AZ Progressive]

54. And Gaddafi kept the nation together and thus it wouldn't have become a safe haven for ISIS...

as a result of it becoming a failed state.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

68. So was Bush but I wouldn't have cheered if,....okay,....maybe I would.

[bvar22]

152. Why Gaddafi had to be tortured and killed:

” For all his dictatorial megalomania, Gaddafi is a committed pan-African - a fierce defender of African unity. Libya was not in debt to international bankers. It did not borrow cash from the International Monetary Fund for any "structural adjustment". It used oil money for social services - including the Great Man Made River project, and investment/aid to sub-Saharan countries. Its independent central bank was not manipulated by the Western financial system. All in all a very bad example for the developing world.”

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MD27Ak01.html

Pan-African:
That means Africa for Africans, NOT for Global Banks or the IMF.
Gaddafi blocked the IMF from making predatory loans to Africans collateralized by the countries natural resources.
Gaddafi blocked the IMF by using Oil money to finance these countries.
The IMF hated him for years.

Oh, and those "rebels" Hillary supported?
They were/are a Black Flag offshoot of AlQaeda who have now imposed Sharia Law on Libya, a country that was once the most advanced in North Africa with liberal rights for women,
but NOT ANYMORE!

This was NOT "collateral damage". This was the PLAN.

[cali]

47. Ugh. I don't laugh at any execution. I sure didn't at that one

What would happen in Libya after his death was only too clear.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

25. How is laughing at the death of a despot...

How is laughing at the death of a despot who raped pre-pubescent boys and girls morally equivalent to laughing st the death of innocent AIDS victims?

[JRLeft]

27. Her vote and decision making has been a major disaster for human life.

[senz]

76. Laughing at sadistic killings signifies a coarse nature.

In a person whose actions helped create the situation, it is unnerving. Such people should not be entrusted with power over others.

[libdem4life]

117. Reminds of GWB when a woman was given the death sentence. Ha ha ha. Not cool.

[senz]

122. I thought of that, too.

Karla Faye Tucker. He mimicked her begging for her life and laughed.

No wonder the Clintons and Bushes get along so well.

[rhett o rick]

151. Laughing at anyone's death is by it's very nature, strange. Being ok with it, I get, laughing

is just strange. As far as innocent AIDS victims, there are lots of people that have laughed because they don't agree that the victims are innocent. I am not suggesting that she thinks that or would ever laugh at AIDS victims deaths.

[MisterP]

31. posistively presidential

not a single thought as to the chaos this would unleash, let alone the ultra-Salafists we hired

[Got it]

42. Absolutely Wretched

She truly sickens me.

[senz]

78. Me too.

Something unhealthy there.

[passiveporcupine]

84. Something darkly this way comes

eom

[libdem4life]

120. Slouching towards Babylon.

[senz]

124. You guys are on a roll tonight.

I'm impressed.

[beam me up scottie]

2. So when is he going to endorse? The suspense is killing me!

[Luminous Animal]

6. Did you see his twitter feed?

https://twitter.com/MMFlint/with_replies

It's been near all Bernie for hours.

[beam me up scottie]

11. I just want to see the celebratory thread.

[Luminous Animal]

136. Moore's official endorsement.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511107198

[wyldwolf]

4. says the guy who supported Ralph Nader in 2000

[JRLeft]

9. Your still blaming Nader when Jeb and the Supreme Court changed the results of the election.

Katherine Harris ring bell?

[wyldwolf]

13. Seems Moore agrees with me

Since he asked Nader not to run in 2004 so as not to split the left vote again.

Can't trust his judgement.

[JRLeft]

14. So removing 10,000 black voters from the voter rolls had no impact?

[wyldwolf]

16. Michael Moore endorsed Nader in 2000. He knows how to pick 'em!

[JRLeft]

19. Wow Katherine Harris and the Supreme Court get no blame from Hillary supporters.

[wyldwolf]

23. ... and out of regret, he got on his knees and begged Nader not to run again.

[JRLeft]

40. So, those 10,000 votes wouldn't have mattered?

[wyldwolf]

41. GW Bush tips his hat to Ralph Nader

[JRLeft]

43. Not to Katherine Harris? The Supreme Court?

[wyldwolf]

46. Michael Moore, realizing his mistake, got on his knees and begged Nader not to run in 2004

[JRLeft]

48. The Supreme Court selected Bush. Gore won, but you blame Nader LMFAO!

[wyldwolf]

49. and Moore, blaming Nader, BEGGED Nader not to run and split the vote again

[JRLeft]

57. It wasn't Nader it was republican judges and elected officials.

[wyldwolf]

87. "Please don't run in 2004, I'm begging you." - Moore to Nader

[liberalnarb]

115. Though he did say that, it wasn't Nader that split the vote AT ALL.

The right stole the election right out from under Al Gore. And it all started with fux noise

[passiveporcupine]

89. The supreme court could not have done what it did

If Nader hadn't run. That doesn't mean it was just Nader that was responsible...

But taking Nader out of 2004 would stop the surpeme court from pulling that shit again.

[Hortensis]

100. On TV. I remember. I thought he had learned

from his dreadful, fateful 2000 mistake helping give the White House to W, but here he is again willing to gamble the nation's future on a long shot.

[senz]

134. Hillary makes Gore look like a saint.

Gore cared about something greater than himself, money, and power. Gore would have tried to make this country a better place. Gore wasn't in the pockets of big banks and multinational corporations.

And Bernie is no Nader. Bernie is not a spoiler. His experience is about three times longer than Hillary's, his successes are firmer, his poll numbers have skyrocketed in a few short months and he polls better against the Republicans than she does.

If anything, Hillary is the "long shot."

[PatrickforO]

130. Did you know that in 2004, the Clintons quietly

sabotaged Kerry's campaign? Why? Well, because Hillary was being positioned to run in 2008 and the Clintons didn't want to run her against an incumbent.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1209606/posts

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/chatterbox/2004/04/republicans_for_hillary_part_5.html

So, you know, you can focus on and keep repeating, repeating and repeating this one thing, but the reality is the Clintons are in it for the money. They've set up that foundation and they are peddling influence. It is important to their long range goals for Hillary to win this time. That's why she's playing so dirty.

But she's not fit, in my opinion, to be our president. Because she sure as hell won't represent me. I'm small potatoes - a little guy with kitchen table issues that Bernie is addressing and Clinton is not and will not. Because she doesn't care about me or my family or the millions like me. Bernie does.

[wyldwolf]

139. Did you know I don't give a rat's ass what freerepublic says?

[senz]

30. You're slamming him to minimize the value of a Bernie endorsement.

And you're doing it repeatedly regardless of what anyone else is talking about. It's disruptive, rude, extremely negative, an unthinking ad hominem putdown. It's purely political and not the least bit communicative.

I notice Hillary supporters doing this quite frequently.

[wyldwolf]

34. Thanks, Ralph!

[senz]

35. You really are insulting.

[wyldwolf]

39. and GW Bush thanks you, too

[senz]

50. I spent October, 2000 BEGGING Naderites to THINK.

And they laughed at me. They were cocky. They were cool.

I had many sleepless nights that November as it felt like my country was dissolving in front of me. I remember 12-12-2000 as one of the saddest days of my life.

So take your abuse somewhere else.

[wyldwolf]

51. Yep, Moore SURE KNOWS HOW TO PICK THEM!!!

[senz]

55. If he were backing your candidate

whose ties to the Bush family are well known, you'd be showering him with love galore.

[wyldwolf]

86. Good ol' Michael Moore. What a political prognosticator.

[senz]

93. Sorry you're so unhappy about a probable endorsement.

There there, it'll be okay.

[wyldwolf]

95. I'll bet GW Bush sends Moore a gift every year on his birthday

[senz]

102. I'll bet dubya doesn't even know who he is.

[wyldwolf]

106. 'Dear Mikey! Thanks for your part in getting me elected.'

Here's a fruit basket.

[pnwmom]

36. Not as much as losing 95,000 voters in Florida alone to Nader.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

59. You're assuming those votes would have went to Gore.

Or anyone else for that matter.

So funny watching Hillary supporters tie themselves into knots to defend Bush and a conservative Supreme Court, probably because Hillary's politics are closer to Bush's.

It's also funny that we can't talk about Hillary's Iraq war vote since that was so long ago (all those dead soldiers and half a million dead brown people are insignificant), but yet we can bring up Nader. Truly a campaign and voter base void of a moral compass.

[pnwmom]

96. The polls said the majority of them would have. And that is why Michael Moore,

among others, begged Nader not to repeat his stunt in 2004.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

98. Doesn't matter, Gore still WON.

Yet you still defend the Bush Crime Family and blame the left. Shameful.

[pnwmom]

103. No. The vote was too close to keep it out of the hands of SCOTUS. If there had just been

another thousand votes or two, out of the 95,000, it wouldn't have been too close to call. But it was.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

118. And again, GORE WON.

You're argument is that Gore should have had to win more than the popular vote to be President. You're bending over backward for Bush, disgusting.

[Luminous Animal]

121. And 200,000 - 300,000 registered Floridian Democrats voted for Bush.

When a party cannot even convince their own members to vote for their candidate, perhaps it is better to stop pointing fingers and look at its own shortcomings.

[jeff47]

145. Nader got 20k registered Democrats. W got 200k registered Democrats

You're blaming the guy with the 10 times smaller problem.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

143. Yes, we all hate Michael Moore and we love Citibank and Chase.

Jesus.

[wyldwolf]

147. Don't hate Michael Moore, he just leads with his heart

When picking candidates, that sux. Jesus.

[jberryhill]

5. Undadabus!

[beam me up scottie]

10. LOL!

Yep someone already blamed him for Nader and by extension the loss of the 2000 election.

[senz]

52. They'd be lovin' on him if they thought he'd edorse hill.

[beam me up scottie]

56. They were happy with him when they thought he was going to endorse her.

Not one word about Nader.

[senz]

60. I do not know

how someone of that caliber can inspire such insane loyalty. Best not to answer this. But it just blows my mind. I cannot even begin to describe what it does to my opinion of them.

But you did say primary season would be a little rough around these parts.

[beam me up scottie]

65. It was just as bad in 2008.

If we can hang on to our sense of humour we'll survive.

[senz]

69. Good attitude, bmus.

Sense of humor, careful use of preview, quick editing if there's any doubt. And a thesaurus link.

[passiveporcupine]

99. That is sure what I saw

That's why when I saw this thread, I was confused, because based on what I'd read here before, I thought he had endorsed her.

Just proves that Hillary is not the only weather vane. No such thing as friend in fair and foul weather. Under the Bus is right.

[SammyWinstonJack]

108. That's true.

[Marty McGraw]

62. They are really busy today

I think they are just emptying their plates before the big silence coming after Tuesday (and well beyond - Yea!....)

[beam me up scottie]

64. They started dumping bright and early with gun threads.

The memo must go out the night before.

[ucrdem]

8. She'll move us back to when it was unthinkable to adulterate a municipal water supply.

[Armstead]

24. No she won't

[Spitfire of ATJ]

70. Are you blaming Obama for Flint?

[cherokeeprogressive]

74. That's what it read like to me. "Back to the time before Barack Obama..."

[Spitfire of ATJ]

81. (looking for my old clue by four)

[senz]

91. Had to look it up.

How cute! Wonder whose brainstorm that was?

[Spitfire of ATJ]

125. That dates back to BBS's and Usenet.

[senz]

129. Spitfire, I'm slow.

My cross to bear. The upside is, there's a steady stream of "new" things to be delighted by. Clue-by-four is adorable.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

131. Many a fuckwit has gotten one upside the head....

Beats having it go elsewhere,....sideways.

[senz]

132. Sounds perfect. Hope to use it on somebody soon.

Thanks!

[senz]

79. Good catch.

[Nanjeanne]

12. I loved this one . . .

Hillary says it's not practical to offer free college for everyone. You can't get more practical than the Germans - & they do it! Many do!

[NurseJackie]

15. I'd quote Susan Sarandon, but, well, you know... it's probably not worth the risk.

[Warren DeMontague]

20. Perhaps Hillary should add "Heavy Sigh" as another campaign slogan, along with "No We Can't"

"We're gonna roll these eyes ALL THE WAYY TO THE WHITE HOUSSSEE!!!"

[passiveporcupine]

104. LOL n/t

[Broward]

17. Also, to the right of Nixon.

[senz]

33. Sad but true.

[brentspeak]

45. And, right away, she would bring with her the same kind of scandal baggage

Every week will be GOP House hearing after House hearing on nothing but Hillary.

[wysi]

44. Love your movies, Mike...

... and you're doing great work for the people of Flint... but you couldn't be more wrong on this one.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

63. So she is to the left of Obama?

Feel free to back that up.....

[Jarqui]

53. Hillary wanted a debate in Flint

With Michael's endorsement of Bernie, I'll bet she tries to wiggle out of that

[Tommy2Tone]

58. Moore another phony who talks of being a man of the people

and lives in a 10,000 sq ft multi million dollar mansion.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

61. So?

He made that money making films, Hillary made hers serving at the will of multi national corporations and banks. You support a candidate who rents a beachfront house for $50,000 A WEEK, give it a rest.

[senz]

83. His life work, from the start, has been for the people.

So what if it brought him financial rewards? He's still for the people.

[libdem4life]

123. He worked and contributed to the greater good with his blockbuster movies. Made a lot of people

aware, too. I'm glad he got his share.

OTOH ...naw, asked and answered

[Kashkakat v.2.0]

66. WELL OK BUT....if it comes down to it Ill take "right of Obama" to off-the-charts facism

Vote your heart and mind during the primary but sure as heck don't want to hear this quibbling come November - whoever the dem nominee is.

Should repubs control all branches of govt on both federal and state level - you wont even know what hit you. Im from WI where we have some experience in witnessing the undoing of 100 yrs of progressivism - it truly is Shock Doctrine USA style and once they get going they don't stop. Once they get to selling off public assets there's no un-do button or legislation that can get it back. We've had some of that already... but mostly a lot of laying of groundwork for future pillaging and turning it over to corporate interests - eg removing obstacles to municipalities selling off their water supply/infrastructure to private co.s, removing obstacles to foreign entities buying unlimited quantiies of WI land, etc. Since WI with its 14000 lakes is sitting on/ adjacent to some of largest freshwater resources in the world, you can see why they want to get their greedy mitts on WI. Water they say is going to be the new oil.

Anyway I digress. Point is- sometimes the lesser of evils is a GOOD thing. Buys us a lil more time if nothing else!

Full disclosure: I do intend to vote for Mr Sanders - possibly Martin Omalley just to reward him for doing a good job as a candidate but if it comes to voting for Ms Clinton - you bet I will.

[senz]

110. I wish I could trust Hillary not to do those things.

She is enamored of those who control great wealth and power. Since most of us don't, it doesn't give me a feeling of security.

[CharlotteVale]

67. K&R except I can't think of "many" good things about her.

[oasis]

71. MM unlikely to endorse anyone because he's grateful to Hillary for

getting the ball rolling in the rescue of his home town, Flint, Michigan.

[cherokeeprogressive]

77. When did he tell you that? I'd say his statements were his endorsement, wouldn't you?

[oasis]

82. No. I, myself have had praise for Bernie, but I don't endorse him

for President.

[cherokeeprogressive]

90. "MM unlikely to endorse anyone..." That's you speaking for Moore. I asked when he told you that.

Care to try again?

[oasis]

97. You should be asking yourself this question:Why didn't he?

[cherokeeprogressive]

126. I don't have to; he did. Read his tweet.

"The are many good things about Hillary. But it's clear she's to the right of Obama & will move us backwards, not forward. Sad. Very sad."

[oasis]

127. That's more of a "handwriting" declaration than an endorsement.

[cherokeeprogressive]

128. You can call it whatever gets you through the night.

[cherokeeprogressive]

138. I guess you can delete this now.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

144. Try reading the OP again, maybe much slower this time around.

You'll see what I'm referring to in due course, I'm sure.

[liberalnarb]

109. Funny, I just posted that chart over in the Bernie Group!

[senz]

111. Excellent!

Thank you.

[liberalnarb]

113. And thank you for supporting the most honest and trustable candidate in the race.

[senz]

116. How could I not?

Been waiting for him all my life.

[Nanjeanne]

112. Oh that bus that Clintonites accuse Sanders supporters of using

I think it's been hijacked.

[senz]

119. And now it's in a ditch from running back and forth on one spot

while gunning the engine.

[Attorney in Texas]

133. lovin' Michael Moore

[slipslidingaway]

137. Michael Moore "My Endorsement" of Bernie ....

http://michaelmoore.com/myendorsementofbernie/

".....I honestly thought I’d never see the day come where I would write to you and get to say these words: “Please vote for Senator Bernie Sanders to be our next President of the United States of America.”

I wouldn’t ask this of you if I didn’t think we really, truly needed him. And we do. More than we probably know."

Sincerely Yours,
Michael Moore

[Bettie]

140. She would, in another era be

a Republican.

But, she's still miles better than any of the people the Republicans have on deck.

So, while I hope that Bernie comes out the winner in the primaries, I will support her over anyone the other side puts up in the general election.

[MADem]

141. LINK, please? Can't see the context of the conversation without it. nt

[jeff47]

146. Can't find his twitter feed on your own? (nt)

[MADem]

148. It is the job of the thread starter to provide a link to quotes that are online.

If you don't care about links, I could put up a "twitter quote" that says

Look people -- on twitter!!!

@jeff47 Clinton in a landslide! Bernt Out on Sanders!

It's not just the quote, either, it's the context and conversation around the quote.

@Bernie Sanders "We will raise taxes. Yes, we will!"

See how that works?

[jeff47]

149. It's a tweet. There is no conversation around the quote.

And again, it's not hard to find his twitter feed. Heck, it's been linked many times in this thread.

[MADem]

150. Don't be absurd. When people tweet declarative comments, others reply to them.

Are you telling me no one answered Moore's tweet in any way?

I can't believe that, but I won't know until the poster coughs up a link.

[Attorney in Texas]

153. k