Tue Feb 2, 2016, 10:33 PM
Metric System (6,048 posts)
Last night felt like a victory for DU's Hillary supporters. Here's why:
For many months we've been subjected to Hack Attack Goodman's ridiculous articles, in what I can only assume was a covert operation to make us lose our minds and switch support to Bernie. And boy, did he ever call Iowa wrong:
Hillary Clinton Will Finish Third In Iowa, Behind Bernie Sanders and O'Malley. Here's Why http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/hillary-clinton-will-fini_b_8717248.html Not to mention, we've been told by some DU Sanders supporters that basically everyone hates Hillary and that there's a huge enthusiasm gap. Judging by the rhetoric on DU, you'd assume hardly anybody would show up to caucus for her. But plenty of people did show up for Hillary AND she pulled ahead, however slightly, of the candidate with all of the "enthusiastic" voters and big crowds. So yes, taking all of this into account, I'd say I feel pretty good about last night's outcome. But what do I know? I'm just a low-information voter.
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Metric System | Feb 2016 | OP |
Bonobo | Feb 2016 | #1 | |
DanTex | Feb 2016 | #8 | |
Bonobo | Feb 2016 | #9 | |
DanTex | Feb 2016 | #11 | |
daleanime | Feb 2016 | #2 | |
thesquanderer | Feb 2016 | #3 | |
el_bryanto | Feb 2016 | #4 | |
Metric System | Feb 2016 | #6 | |
Lucinda | Feb 2016 | #10 | |
frylock | Feb 2016 | #16 | |
Agnosticsherbet | Feb 2016 | #5 | |
JudyM | Feb 2016 | #7 | |
Matariki | Feb 2016 | #14 | |
AgingAmerican | Feb 2016 | #18 | |
Warren DeMontague | Feb 2016 | #12 | |
mhatrw | Feb 2016 | #13 | |
frylock | Feb 2016 | #15 | |
AgingAmerican | Feb 2016 | #17 |
Response to Metric System (Original post)
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 10:34 PM
Bonobo (29,257 posts)
1. Goodman hasn't been posted forever. Never even heard about the guy until
Hillary supporters started posting it. Check the record.
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Response to Bonobo (Reply #1)
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 11:02 PM
DanTex (20,709 posts)
8. Less than a week ago, but who's counting?
Response to DanTex (Reply #8)
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 11:33 PM
Bonobo (29,257 posts)
9. Wow, a poster with 500 posts!
Hardcore DU'er!
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Response to Bonobo (Reply #9)
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 11:37 PM
DanTex (20,709 posts)
11. While you're at it, smear the 33 people who recced it too.
Probably easier for you than just saying "I was wrong".
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Response to Metric System (Original post)
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 10:42 PM
daleanime (17,796 posts)
2. Would you rather be called....
sexist and racist?
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Response to Metric System (Original post)
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 10:44 PM
thesquanderer (11,609 posts)
3. I'm for Sanders, and even *I* thought Goodman's stuff was ridiculous. (nt)
Response to Metric System (Original post)
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 10:45 PM
el_bryanto (11,804 posts)
4. Have you noticed your fellow Hillary supporters saying for months that she was inevitable?
and that supporting Sanders was pie in the sky nonsense?
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Response to el_bryanto (Reply #4)
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 10:56 PM
Metric System (6,048 posts)
6. I never once saw a Hillary supporter on DU call her inevitable. That was a term throw at her by her
detractors. Also: coronation.
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Response to Metric System (Reply #6)
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 11:36 PM
Lucinda (30,926 posts)
10. +1 Its not coming from us OR Hillary's campaign
Just crap to slam Hillary with - and it's not even original
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Response to Metric System (Reply #6)
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 02:17 AM
frylock (34,825 posts)
16. No, they never literally used the word *inevitable*
but it was obviously implied in their mocking posts of Sanders and his supporters.
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Response to Metric System (Original post)
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 10:46 PM
Agnosticsherbet (11,619 posts)
5. She won and Bernie lost.
Democrats suffered a major drop in attendance from 2008, (approximately 27%).
Yes, there was a turnout of the youth, but in nowhere near revolution numbers. Obama in 2008, now, that was a revolution. |
Response to Agnosticsherbet (Reply #5)
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 10:56 PM
JudyM (26,806 posts)
7. Yes, this concerned me. The dem turnout was much lower and the Rethug turnout was its highest ever.
Response to JudyM (Reply #7)
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 01:55 AM
Matariki (18,775 posts)
14. Yes. Very good point. We should be thinking about that in between fighting each other.
Response to JudyM (Reply #7)
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 02:19 AM
AgingAmerican (12,958 posts)
18. That is because of the debates
Debbie Wasserman Schultz allowed them to suck all the oxygen out of the room
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Response to Metric System (Original post)
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 11:54 PM
Warren DeMontague (80,708 posts)
12. did anyone besides that one dude ever seriously suggest she was going to come in third?
If they did, I would question their knowledge of actual political reality.
I mean, I can predict that if I say "yummy smores" three times in a darkened bathroom marshmallows will shoot out of my fingertips, but that doesn't mean it will happen. the reason last night was a loss for HRC was because her team poured a ton of resources into Iowa, and because she's supposed to have been "inevitable", this nomination was supposed to be a cakewalk for her. And the past several months have demonstrated that the campaign style, messaging, and inspiration-generating deficits she had in 2008 are still very much a problem, and that itself is doubly a problem for her in a primary contest when her "electability" and strength as a candidate are being served - as opposed to the bold stands and policy proposals of Bernie Sanders - as a prime reason to support her. But it wasn't the end of HRC's campaign. It was basically a tie, but it was also a strong showing for Sanders, which means the contest- and the conversation, as Hillary put it last night- will continue. |
Response to Metric System (Original post)
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 01:47 AM
mhatrw (10,786 posts)
13. Yeah, last night was a HUGE victory for Blockbuster Video!
How will Netflix ever recover?
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Response to Metric System (Original post)
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 02:15 AM
frylock (34,825 posts)
15. Poor, oppressed underdog Hillary.
It's not like that third-place finish was without precedent.
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Response to Metric System (Original post)
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 02:18 AM
AgingAmerican (12,958 posts)
17. Oh please
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