Hillary denounced MoveOn at a private fundraiser but told a very different story in public.

[pa28]

Maybe this is why her high dollar donor class feels so comfortable when she employs populist rhetoric when speaking to the rest of us. It's just rhetoric.

Here's what she said about MoveOn at a private fundraiser in 2008 (that wasn't quite as private as she might have hoped).

I don't agree with them. They know I don't agree with them. So they flood into these caucuses and dominate them and really intimidate people who show up there to support me.

Here's what she told MoveOn during a public conference call.

You've been refusing to back down when any of us who are in political leadership are not living up the standards that we should set for ourselves. I think you have helped to change the face of American politics for the better - both online and in the corridors of power.

[cali]

1. Phony

[Skwmom]

6. +1,000,000

[H2O Man]

2. I have been

a member/supporter of MoveOn for years, as have many of my family and friends.

[hedda_foil]

16. I've been a member of MoveOn since their first "Censure and Move On" email petition to Congress 1998

What a long time ago that was.

[99th_Monkey]

3. Surprise, surprise! n/t

[rhett o rick]

4. A bit ironic as Moveon was formed to support her husband. But they are progressive and

in spite of what she claims, she does not like progressives.

[farleftlib]

7. So ironic

And no she surely doesn't like Moveon or progressives or activists. You can really hear it in her voice when she's talking about us.

[rhett o rick]

10. No one in the conservative Wing likes us. Not her, not Rahmbo, not DWS, not Boxer,

not Obama, not Goldman-Sachs, not even Biden. We are not part of the cool kids, the in-crowd.

[haikugal]

53. This right here^^^^

It's reality. We are only good for them when we can help them otherwise we can't even get lip service...they hate us.

Fuck them.

[bunnies]

54. I think its more than that.

I think they straight up despise us. Do you think for one moment that any of Hillarys high dollar talks to the financial industry don't include a healthy dose of left-bashing? Id bet anything its one of the reasons she wont release the text of a single speech.

But they all want our votes though, dont they.

[rhett o rick]

56. I don't think they want our votes. The hubris is such that they'd rather lose and look for a

scapegoat (Nader) than reach out to lowly progressives.

[tularetom]

52. While liberals were busting their ass to defend her idiot husband

From the consequences of of his own lies, he was giving the farm away to corporations and the 1%.

And they both have made very clear that support from groups like MoveOn did not mean jack shit to them. From Bill's obsequious sucking up to the Bush family to her sneering remarks about MoveOn, it's plain that they regard progressive Democrats as useful idiots who will support them no matter how often they kick us in the nads.

Because what choice do we have, right? We don't want Sarah Palin a heartbeat away from the presidency.

Bernie Sanders has given us an opportunity to call their bluff.

[Uncle Joe]

5. Kicked and recommended for being consistently inconsistent.

Thanks for the thread, pa.

[angrychair]

8. As a MoveOn member

I take exception. Guess that's why we voted to endorse Sanders

[kath]

9. such a phony, shape-shifting liar.

Gah. Can. Not. Stand. Her.

[BuelahWitch]

11. The main reason I don't support her

Queen of Camp Weathervane.

[MissDeeds]

18. Yep

I can't stand her, and I'm a woman. I mean I really, really can't stand her.

[kath]

22. Boomer woman here. My two Boomer sisters can't stand her either.

Haven't spoke with the sister who is on the cusp between boomers and GenX since October. at that point she was one of those "I like Bernie but do you really think he can win types". I'm hoping she will move into Bernie's camp, if she hasn't already.

[DhhD]

35. Shape-shifting; I used that word to describe her flip-flop Health Care Plan, last evening.

It needs to stick as it also refers to transfer of her shifting progressive talking points to Republican metal.

http://scienceandfilm.org/articles/2571/liquid-metal-terminator-genisys

[CharlotteVale]

37. +1 x A gazillion

[AtomicKitten]

12. She will sink/float on her inconsistencies which are hers alone & have nothing to do with Bernie.

Just standing next to Bernie, a man of unimpeachable integrity and consistency, makes her look bad. When the MSM puts a microphone in his face and asks about her inconsistencies, he answers in a straightforward manner. But make no mistake, it is her inconsistencies that are causing her grief. That's entirely her fault and her problem.

[Divernan]

15. Think you mean unimpeachable

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[AtomicKitten]

17. yes I will correct thanks

[bkkyosemite]

13. Fork tongue

[left-of-center2012]

14. Hillary whines a lot

[ChairmanAgnostic]

23. Her hillarians here are far worse. If possible.

Frankly, those sons and daughters of B>>>>>> are here to destroy any effort to support Bernie.
And if you notice the gnu members, there are a ton of assholes coming here solely for that purpose.

[kath]

38. Oh, yeah. Looooooves playing the victim.

[jalan48]

19. Hillary's down to the "Republicans are worse" argument.

That's about all she has going these days.

[Art_from_Ark]

31. And even that argument is dubious

[Spitfire of ATJ]

43. Each of her "No"s would actually be 3 minutes of talking that would equal a "No".

[nc4bo]

20. LMAO - Now I get an idea (and so should the rest of us) of what she says at $200k-$600k speeches

and fundraisers.

Not fit for public consumption I have NO doubt whatsoever.

She's just like Mittens in that regard.

Wow.

Priceless.

Thanks.

[pa28]

24. I've suspected for quite a while the high dollar fundraiser Hillary is the real Hillary.

I'd like to read the transcripts of the private speeches she gave to Goldman and other financial institutions but she won't release them for some reason. Too bad.

[nc4bo]

27. I keep hoping somebody, somewhere will get the gonads to release either audio

or transcripts.

Free the beasts!!

To me, these comments by Hillary Clinton (that I've never seen before) is her Mitt Romney 47% moment. That Romney release showed us what he kept hidden during his campaign in a way that only listening and watching for oneself can do.

[pa28]

45. Glad to see this issue turn up at the debate tonight.

She seems to share a really easy rapport with high dollar contributors she seems to lack with the great unwashed. Let's have her release those transcripts and see if we're both getting the same story.

[UglyGreed]

21. Looks like Hillary threw

Moveon under that bus many here seems to be talking about.

[silvershadow]

25. Oh good. I just joined MoveOn tonight, about an hour ago. nt

[AzDar]

26. Shady.

[Duckhunter935]

28. I am not surprised at all

Love to see some videos of those quarter million dollar speeches.

[daleanime]

40. +1

[valerief]

29. IIRC, Moveon was started after the kerfuffle over Bill and Monica. They wanted to "move on"

from all that business and get to the issues that affect citizens.

Correct me, if I'm wrong.

[Art_from_Ark]

33. You are correct.

[valerief]

39. Thanks. So you'd think Hillary would love Moveon. Oh, well. nt

[LiberalElite]

30. K&R nt

[cantbeserious]

32. HRC - Forked Tongue - Strident - Overbearing - Visionless - The Perfect Spokesperson For The 1%

eom

[Stardust]

34. K&R

[Indepatriot]

36. Hillary Clinton? Talking out of both sides of her mouth?!!!!! I'm SHOCKED......

[zazen]

41. k&r n/t

[Feeling the Bern]

42. She is a shape shifting weathervane. Will say anything to achieve the power she thinks

she deserves in her own mind. The days of this are over with youtube, internet and what not. The days of two faced lying are over with smartphones that can record everything.

I believe she is beginning to jump the shark.

[marmar]

44. Disingenuousness is her middle name.

[nc4bo]

46. Morning kick.nt

[bigwillq]

47. K and R (nt)

[VulgarPoet]

48. K/R.

Expose this corporatist chameleon for what she really is.

[Autumn Colors]

49. K&R (nt)

[stillwaiting]

50. She has proven that this is how she feels towards us so many times.

Despite what she might say in campaign speeches or debates.

I truly hope she loses this primary.

There is so much at stake here, and she will turn her back forcefully on us (she already has on several key areas) as soon as she gets the nomination locked up.

[2pooped2pop]

51. Hell, she changes her story walking from the living room to the kitchen.

So this is no surprise.

[kath]

55. Kick! To expose the shape-shifting and lying.

[last1standing]

57. She's a liar, what'd you expect.

And it makes no difference to many of her supporters because they don't care if she lies. They don't care if she supports war on innocent nations. They don't care if she spouts racist memes or uses sexism as a crutch.

All that matters for some is making sure a woman gets into the White House because "IT'S HER TURN!!!!"

[Odin2005]

58. SHE'S A PHONEY!!!

[merbex]

59. I have a dream.....

That someone from the NH in the next few days gets up and asks her a question and has this video ready to play on their phone.

If we never get the text from her speeches, or a video or audio from those high dollar Davos like events THIS is the next best thing.

See what she would say. Or even a reaction - preface it with how Moveon was originated - and she speaks ill of it?

Some could make the argument that Moveon allowed she and her husband to even GET those speaking fees.......last impeached President, or almost impeached, Nixon, he certainly wasn't being invited or getting those fees. He wrote a book and iirc he sat down with David Frost.

The Clintons have made corporate speech making a cottage industry.

[nc4bo]

60. Kickity-kick. nt

[Live and Learn]

61. Can a leopard change it's spots? Daily, if your last name is Clinton it seems. nt

[John Poet]

62. Those liberal activist moveon dirty hippy types

who want to keep us out of wars and stuff like that...


This illustrates why it's hard to put any stock out of anything that comes out of her mouth.

[KoKo]

63. Accuses "Move On" of Flooding Caucuses, dominating and intimidating her supporters...

From this statement it sounds like she might be the source of the disinfo about the "Bernie Bros" that she claims are bothering/harassing her supporters online :

I don't agree with them. They know I don't agree with them. So they flood into these caucuses and dominate them and really intimidate people who show up there to support me.

[nc4bo]

64. The 2 facedness of Hillary Clinton.

It makes me wonder what she's said to her stans at hundreds of other speeches and fundraisers.

[nc4bo]

65. Where are those transcripts? nt

[FlatBaroque]

66. I wanted to know what Gravel had to say /