"I'm Not Sure What The Status Is... I'll Have To Look Into It..." Now, Let Me Just Change The...

[CorporatistNation]

Subject..."

Where was Chuck's follow up for the YES or NO answer on THE TRANSCRIPTS????? Chuck followed up on the foreign policy stuff with Bernie later... But let Hillary bullshit and sliiiiiddde on releasing the transcripts....

"I don't know what the status is..." BULLSHIT! OK Hillary... Well America wants an ANSWER ON THE STATUS OF THE TRANSCRIPTS!


WHO is in control of the effing transcripts if NOT Hillary herself????

[72DejaVu]

1. America doesn't give two shits about the transcripts

But, please proceed, make that a major focus of the Sanders campaign

[MissDeeds]

2. I care about the transcripts

and I'm part of America.

[polichick]

4. Me too. She gets paid a fortune for these speeches - what are they paying for?

[CorporatistNation]

6. When I Was Democratic Nominee for U.S. House in 2006...

I was approached by a BIG Pharma Lobbyist from DC whose final comment to me was, ____ If you are will ing to "Play Ball" w/ the pharmaceutical industry, we'll get you all the contributions you need. I replied, "Well, if I do the same thing as my opponent does then where will my credibility be? "

It's all about "PLAYING BALL!" Hillary PLAYS Ball and Bernie does NOT! Simple choice... Corporatist Hillary or POPULIST People's candidate Bernie Sanders?

[polichick]

8. This should be an op!

[CorporatistNation]

16. I'll do it... Tomorrow.

Stay on the theme... Money buys policy through the agents for The Corporation and Oligarchs that the politicians of BOTH parties are ... at every level. If you cannot put together a bundle of $270,000.. No pol will listen to you.

[polichick]

22. Great - I'll look for it!

[roguevalley]

39. America cares. hrc supporters dont.

[Volaris]

65. Those agents are called Paid Lobbyists.

It should be ILLEGAL to get paid to lobby Congress. If you're gonna do that, it should be because you actually and REALLY BELIEVE that Yellowstone should still have wolves (or whatever your thing happens to be), and that you believe in it enough that you would do it FOR FREE, minus basic travel expenses to DC. How many people do YOU think would go and lobby Congress on behalf of Charles and David or Jamie Dimon if they had to do it 'cause they actually bought into what those snakes were 'selling'?

My guess would be exactly 3--Charles and David and Jamie (and if they have to go and do an ask WITHOUT the legal avenue of billion-dollar election funding, how many CongressCritters do you think are actually gonna take that meeting, when their primary source of election funding is a system of Public Dollars that require them to do useful work on behalf of their constituents? Exactly Zero, is how many.).

Corporate Personhood is a legal illusion--its a Shade. While the trick was designed by lawyers, the people who keep the theatre lights turned down so you cant see it for what it really is, get PAID to do so, and they are called Lobbyists.

[in_cog_ni_to]

33. There ya go!

Bernie knows exactly what he's talking about! And kudos to you for telling Big Pharma to sod off!

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[amborin]

59. HRC played ball w/ Wall St donors & changed bankruptcy law to suit them. Eliz Warren spoke about thi

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/05/us/politics/hillary-clinton-wall-street-ties.html

[ViseGrip]

74. She had to see out. We need to gather candidate testimony like above and have a page just for that.

[72DejaVu]

9. Run with that as an issue

Please

[MissDeeds]

11. Your candidate seems to have a lot to hide

Run with THAT as an issue. Please.

[CorporatistNation]

70. Hillary Tells Everyone WHAT They Want To Hear... Why Would She Not Tell Wall Street Moguls...

"What They Want To Hear?"


I mean she cares so much about US... ordinary Americans... However, there is no financial gain from us like there is when she is speaking to Wall Street...

[CorporatistNation]

72. POUND THIS HUGE ACHILLES HEEL TO INFINITY!

!!!!!

[krawhitham]

20. If it is not an issue then release them

Pretty simple

[CorporatistNation]

71. Hello There Hillary... YES IT IS REALLY SIMPLE... RELEASE THE DAMN TRANSCRIPTS!

!

[Fearless]

31. I care a great deal about what their money bought them. Thanks.

[840high]

38. I do.

[metroins]

77. This. Nobody cares about some transcripts.

It's a waste of time.

[NanceGreggs]

3. "America" is not the least bit interested in "the transcripts"

The only people interested are BSers who want to search for a "smoking gun" that doesn't exist.

[asuhornets]

14. Exactly...n/t

[CorporatistNation]

26. Hillary's Personal Integrity and Veracity is Significantly .. Open To Question!

Hillary Has no one to blame but herself! Telling the truth is a good policy. One which Bernie adheres to quite religiously.

[cui bono]

21. Because Bernie supporters are not part of America

and didn't amount to half the votes in Iowa.



.

[NanceGreggs]

25. No. It's because a group of Bernie supporters on DU ...

... do not represent all of the Bernie supporters in real life.

Just because a small bunch of BSers on a message board are demanding "the transcripts" does not mean that anyone thinks they're important, other than them.

[floriduck]

28. Chuck Todd and MSNBC asked for them, not just BSers..

And, not to get too picky, just because a smaller group of HRCers on a message board are questioning the request does not mean they're not important. If you or anyone you value was adversely impacted by the 2008 financial meltdown, why would you begrudge them for wanting answers?

[CorporatistNation]

29. Apparently The Chuckster Thought That America Cared Enough About The Transcripts...

To ask about her providing them. Chuck was not the first to ask. She knows what she told those "banksters" in return for ... THEIR EFFING MASSIVE CHECKS W/ LOTS OF ZEROS!!!

[cui bono]

50. You talk as if it's not important, as if it's something trivial. n/t

[NanceGreggs]

60. Because it is.

Think about it. Why are the BS supporters so desperate to get those transcripts? It's because they are hoping against hope that there is a smoking gun that will destroy HRC's candidacy, thus clearing the path for Bernie to win the nomination.

Now think about this: If your candidate's only shot at the nomination is the destruction of his opponent, it means you know he can't win on his own merits.

There have been many posts here in the past few days that highlight BS's problems in most of the remaining primary states, where HRC is far ahead in the polls. Coincidentally, I'm sure, there is this sudden clamoring for transcripts that potentially contain - oh, sweet lord, make it so! - something that can be explosive enough to knock Hillary's boat out of the water and sink it without a trace.

When you're down to frantically searching in every corner, hoping to find something - anything - that would potentially ruin your candidate's opponent, you're pretty much admitting that it's your candidate's only hope.

[cui bono]

61. Oh please, you can't possibly believe that it isn't important. If you really do then you don't have

a clue how our political system works.

So I guess you are fine with Citizen's United then? Because clearly you don't think money can buy influence.

What a joke your entire post is. You are the one with nothing. That's why you have to pretend that when Goldman Sachs and the health insurance industry give you millions of dollars they don't expect anything in return.

Go ahead and be an apologist for Clinton. Doesn't change the facts.

And the American people have a right to know what she's telling them when she's making that much money off of them. We have the right to know what that money is possibly getting them. And we both know if there's nothing to hide then there's no problem with releasing them.

Why are you so against allowing the people to make an educated vote? Would you rather our politicians be secretive and not let the people know exactly what they are getting? What is Hillary hiding?

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/2/4/1479904/-Clinton-Last-Night-Name-Anything-Wall-Street-Has-Influenced-Me-On-OK-I-Will


Clinton Last Night: "Name Anything [Wall Street Has] Influenced Me On" -- OK, I Will
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It is wrong and unfair to attack or critique candidates on anything but substance, policy, or record — and Clinton’s statements last night definitely fall underneath this umbrella. The following is not an unbridled attack against Clinton, but a response to a statement she made last night that went unanswered, and should not have.

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While being questioned about her Wall Street ties, Clinton said to Anderson Cooper, the moderator—

“But you know anybody who knows me who thinks that they can influence me — name anything they’ve influenced me on. Just name one thing. I’m out here every day saying I’m going to shut them down, I’m going after them.”

Challenge accepted.

In 2007, while running for president, Clinton made campaign speeches attacking the tax break for hedge-fund and private-equity executives — one of the infamous loopholes that allows rich people to pay way less in taxes than they’re supposed to — but did not sign her name onto legislation that would have ended the tax break and closed the loophole.

Just as she’s doing now, she was “out [t]here every day saying I’m going to shut them down,” but did not actually use her elected-official power to keep her word, and follow through with the simple act of signing her name onto someone else’s bill.

As Politico reports,

When [Clinton] had a chance to support a 2007 bill that aimed to curb a tax break she publicly decried for hedge-fund and private-equity executives, she failed to sign on.

Clinton said one thing in public, but did another behind closed doors. She attacked Wall Street to voters, but helped them as a senator.

Why?

Because Wall Street executives were the biggest donors to her 2006 Senate campaign and her 2008 presidential campaign.

Clinton got millions from the financial industry while also protecting them — she is most assuredly influenced by her Wall Street donors.

That’s one thing right there, per Clinton’s request — but here’s even more.

In 2007 and 2008, Clinton did not work with the other senators in Congress to pass a housing bill to stop individual financial players from destroying the economy.

Sure, getting that much money from Goldman Sachs and the insurance industry doesn't influence her at all.

.

[NanceGreggs]

64. Sorry.

Didn't mean to touch that nerve with that much force.

If you're pinning your hopes on Hillary being downed so that Bernie can win the nomination by virtue of being last man standing, that's your prerogative.

Doesn't say a lot for him, or your belief that he can win on his own merits.

[cui bono]

66. Ah, more deflection from the apologist.

So you are fine with her saying one thing to voters and doing another that benefits those who she got hefty sums of money from? How long have you been okay with people paying for policy? How long have you been okay with the erosion of our democracy? How long have you felt that democracy is not about the vote and will of the people but of the money that influences politicians? Do you always back two-faced candidates that don't follow through on the promises they made to the people who then voted for them?

As to your false assumption that my candidate has no merits, here is a list of some Bernie's many merits.

He's not bought and paid for by Wall Street and the insurance companies.
He' fighting to break the big banks apart.
He's honest.
He's liberal.
He's fighting for working people.
He's fighting to get medicare for all.
He'd rather have diplomacy with Iran than war with Iran.
He's against the TPP and 'free trade'.
He's for 'fair trade.
He's for equality for ALL.
He's for $15/hr minimum wage.
He's against the private prison industry.
He wants to bring back Glass-Steagall.
He doesn't lie to win.
He doesn't change his policy positions at will depending who he's talking to and when.
He is energizing.
He's positive.
He speaks truth to power.
He's authentic.

Your turn. You don't seem to think your candidate can win if she discloses what she said to the banksters. Doesn't say a lot about her or your belief that she isn't bought and paid for. Let's see you defend your candidate on that.

.

[cui bono]

68. You 'forgot' to answer the other two posters who pointed out that it was Chuck Todd who asked

for the transcripts, not DU Bernie supporters.



Guess what? That means even more Americans are going to want to see them now.

.

[NanceGreggs]

69. Oh, yeah, I "forgot" ...

Is Chuck Todd also the one who's posting all of the "we demand the transcripts" posts on DU tonight? If so, I'd say he has quite a few sock puppets.

[Fearless]

32. Prove it.

[NanceGreggs]

34. I'm not about to attempt to prove a negative.

Why don't you provide a list of all the people who are interested in those transcripts? I doubt it's a very long list.

[Fawke Em]

36. I think America is interested given the amount of ink this is getting

https://www.google.com/search?q=clinton+goldman+sachs+transcripts&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=clinton+goldman+sachs+transcripts&tbm=nws

[NanceGreggs]

41. The "amount of ink" in your linked article ...

... is rather on the (cough) sparse side. And it says nothing about "Americans" wanting to see the transcripts - or even being the least bit interested.

"Well America wants an ANSWER ON THE STATUS OF THE TRANSCRIPTS!" states the OP.

Do you see "America" demanding an answer about the status of the transcripts? Do you see people standing on street corners with picket signs demanding that the transcripts be released?

It's kind of sad that Bernie supporters are reduced to trying to make a non-story into a story - particularly when the story is only of interest to themselves.

[Bonobo]

67. Congratulations. You have identified a symptom of the problem at the heart of our politics.

I imagine there was not much interest in the "Pentagon Papers" when they were released.

That did not invalidate their importance.

[tularetom]

5. Maybe the people who paid hundreds of thousands of dollars for the transcripts

are in control of them.

And you can be sure they will never release them voluntarily.

But somewhere there is a disgruntled employee/whistleblower who will let the cat out of the bag. Hope it happens in time to have some effect on the nomination.

[CorporatistNation]

17. The MSM Needs To PRESS HER on Who Is In Control of The Transcripts S We Can Get Them RELEASED

to US!

[NanceGreggs]

44. So THIS is what you're down to ...

... hoping against hope that there is a "gotcha" moment that some "disgruntled employee/whistleblower" will let out of the bag in time to have some effect on the nomination.

Sounds like you don't have much faith in Bernie's ability to win the nomination on his own merits, but has to hope for some scandal that will affect his opponent before it's too late.

That's pretty telling - and extremely sad.

[pa28]

7. Here's the status. A reporter asked her about it and she laughed and turned away.

[asuhornets]

10. Oh my the Bernie supporters have found

something else to criticize her about. So Faux Newsish

[polichick]

13. We just want to know what they're paying her so much for...

What's to hide?

[asuhornets]

15. There is nothing to hide just that

Several other politicians and presidential candidates give paid speeches. Why would you only want to see her transcript.

[CorporatistNation]

18. She Is Running For PRESIDENT For Crying OUT LOUD! THAT'S WHY!

WTF!

[asuhornets]

23. Stop your crying loudly..

All politicians give paid speeches. Get a grip. No one cares about that. If that's all you got then you got nothing, nada, zero!!

She's running for President because she is qualified unlike Sanders.

[840high]

40. I care - show them.

[asuhornets]

42. I bet you weren't

even thinking about transcripts until the debate. You had no idea they even existed.

[840high]

54. Wrong. I've posted

about them on my FB before the debate.

[asuhornets]

24. Oh yea and she won all of the debates...eom

[Fawke Em]

37. If she was debating about who could be more snide, then yes, she won. eom

[840high]

55. Also - who could interrupt more.

[polichick]

19. She wants to be prez - why are they paying her so much, for what...

Maybe to make sure the status quo isn't threatened too much?

[snagglepuss]

35. No other person cashed in before he was elected president.

The influence an ex-president is minimal but influence peddling is a very real concern when someone rakes in millions of dollars on their way to the Oval Office.

[frylock]

45. Name one presidential candidate that has given paid speeches.

[mindwalker_i]

27. The term "Target Rich Environment" comes to mind

Finding things to criticize Hillary about are painfully easy.

[retrowire]

48. oh damn

didn't realize I had lost my right to scrutinize those who seek the highest office in power to rule over my country.

my bad.

[amborin]

12. Hillary is dissing all Americans with that reply

[ViseGrip]

30. kick

[CorporatistNation]

81. KICCCCKKKKKK!

Boom! Hillary Will Be withdrawing in the next month w/o a doubt....

[AzDar]

43. K & R

[Beartracks]

46. I didn't see the debate. I thought R. Maddow was moderator...??? n/t

[warrprayer]

47. ...

[PonyUp]

49. People were talking about the transcripts before the debate. Why wasn't she ready with an answer?

She either has some piss-poor advisers that don't relay the public's questions and concerns about her, or they do advise her and she just doesn't give a shit.

[grasswire]

52. that WAS her prepared answer

Last time she was asked she just laughed.

[Cartoonist]

51. Fear of transcripts

Reading this thread, it is obvious that the HRC supporters are scared to death that the transcripts will be released. Otherwise they would welcome the words spoken by the most qualified candidate.

[Docreed2003]

56. Exactly...

I'm not sure why some are choosing so vociferously to defend not releasing the transcripts of these speeches. Either there is "no there...there" or there's content within the speeches which would highlight Sec Clinton's private views. I'm not looking for a scandal...I'm looking for the truth! As a Democratic voter, I don't think that's too much to ask. I'm too cynical to trust a politician who says "take my word for it, I'll fight against 'X' group", while taking money from those groups on the side.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

53. I half expect to hear something about a confidentiality agreement.

[Cartoonist]

58. Or pleading the 5th

Need to know

For members only

Pay to play

You don't want to know

[chervilant]

57. I saw a comment on fb that sticks

in my mind: "Hi11ary has more baggage than United Airlines."

Another thing that I find striking is her constant interruptions. This tells me she is too busy formulating her "response" to actually hear what her opponent is saying.

Plus, it is politically inexpedient for Hi11ary to attack Bernie on issues that the majority of the vast Hoi Polloi have long wanted to be available for all.

[asuhornets]

62. What were Bernie's highpoints in the debate?

U don't know cause you are too busy finding fault in Hillary.

[chervilant]

73. And, that's entirely

too easy to do!

FEEL THE BERN!!!

#NotMeUs

[Unknown Beatle]

63. You know, this is what gets to me,

Hillary lying with a straight face. It takes a lot of practice to be able to do that. She's really trying very hard to convince everyone that she's an honest person that tells the truth, always.

I had a friend just like her, always lying through his teeth and always trying to convince me he was telling the truth. But I disputed his lies with facts and when he couldn't lie his way out of his lies, he sputtered. Kinda funny, really. But he wasn't running for public office.

Hillary, on the other hand, is running for the highest profile office in the US and arguably the highest office in the world, but she lies and then lies some more to cover the original lie, and gullible people believe her. Why?

[ViseGrip]

75. Oh my it is Hillary & only Hillary that controls her transcripts and anything she says behind doors.

[EdwardBernays]

76. Ask her campaign chairman

Try not to laugh. Or gag.

[demwing]

78. She could tell us...

But then she'd have to kill us

[onecaliberal]

79. She has them, and no one else.

[Mike__M]

80. I have decided that

I will "look into" donating $27 to the Clinton campaign.