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anti partisan

(429 posts)
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 09:16 AM Feb 2016

Support of the death penalty in 2016 should be completely disqualifying, or is it just me?

Yet Hillary took the debate stage last night and unapologetically defended the barbaric practice, using the very conservative "it is the government's role to bring vengeance to bad people" line of argumentation.

I guess she isn't in any hurry to join the civilized world because it goes against opinion polling and focus groups.

When the Republicans beat the war drums again and sway public opinion in the direction of more senseless war, what will President Clinton do? Will she listen to her opinion polling or defend what is right yet unpopular?

I wish there weren't so many reasons to be all in on Bernie but his opponent keeps serving them up

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Support of the death penalty in 2016 should be completely disqualifying, or is it just me? (Original Post) anti partisan Feb 2016 OP
There are many who believe as you do but also many who don't. PeteSelman Feb 2016 #1
no way - I am against it but recognize others feel differently DrDan Feb 2016 #2
It's a complete disqualifier for me. NorthCarolina Feb 2016 #3
A legitimate goal of government is to promote public safety HereSince1628 Feb 2016 #4
For me, absolutely Uponthegears Feb 2016 #5
To me, the real question is: Which party do we want selecting the Supreme Court members shraby Feb 2016 #6
No, it should not be disqualifying (nt) bigwillq Feb 2016 #7
I can't see myself getting behind anyone who supports it. nt cherokeeprogressive Feb 2016 #8

PeteSelman

(1,508 posts)
1. There are many who believe as you do but also many who don't.
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 09:21 AM
Feb 2016

It's certainly not a non-starter for me. Some crimes absolutely deserve the ultimate penalty.

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
2. no way - I am against it but recognize others feel differently
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 09:26 AM
Feb 2016

debate it, introduce legislation, vote . . . let's do it the right way, not via some dictatorial path

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
3. It's a complete disqualifier for me.
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 09:38 AM
Feb 2016

Can't speak for anyone else of course, but for MY money Bernie had the best response: "The Government shouldn't be in the business of killing people". The world is barbaric enough without adding more killing to it. Lock them up and throw away the key if you want, but strapping to a table and injecting who-knows-what into their veins is not the act of a moral or compassionate society.

I for one am simply hoping that (a) we elect Bernie, and (b) we progress to a more advanced society that values it's people above it's elite.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
4. A legitimate goal of government is to promote public safety
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 09:47 AM
Feb 2016

I have never understood the role of government to be vengeance. So, I'm with you on this.

IMO, this is just another example of HRC revealing her social philosophy leans conservative.



 

Uponthegears

(1,499 posts)
5. For me, absolutely
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 10:45 AM
Feb 2016

It is one of very few single issue litmus tests I apply to Democratic Party candidates.

The death penalty is not simply morally reprehensible, it violates the 8th Amendment (notwithstanding the ridiculous arguments to the contrary by Justices Scalia, Thomas and Alito and to which a majority of the Court acquiesces by silently agreeing to uphold the practice). << I expect some push back here, but I will wait until it happens before taking the time and space to explain why I am correct.

That being the case, it makes no difference whatsoever whether public opinion is for or against capital punishment any more than it makes a difference whether public opinion is for or against the freedom of speech.

To sacrifice the principles upon which this country was founded for political expediency is a moral failing which does indeed disqualify a candidate from any consideration unless the choice is between two candidates who are guilty of the same moral failure.

shraby

(21,946 posts)
6. To me, the real question is: Which party do we want selecting the Supreme Court members
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 10:50 AM
Feb 2016

to fill any openings in the next 4-8 years?
The Democratic nominee gets my vote period.

Any one who doesn't feel this way has not thought out the long term problem of the Supremes going further right if a Democrat isn't in the White House.

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