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artislife

(9,497 posts)
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 02:24 PM Feb 2016

"...fewer are willing to believe that imperial feminism is the best we can do"

Dear Hillary, Madeleine and Gloria: Full Feminism Demands We Say No to America's Deadly Imperial Wars
Clinton does not have a monopoly on feminism.



Nonetheless, the statement rightfully provoked rebuke, including from some who grew up respecting Steinem. “The good news is that more and more of us are ready to change the whole system, and fewer and fewer are willing to believe that imperial feminism is the best we can do,” declared Philadelphia-based writer Sarah Grey.


http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/dear-hillary-madeline-and-gloria-full-feminism-demands-we-say-no-americas-deadly
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"...fewer are willing to believe that imperial feminism is the best we can do" (Original Post) artislife Feb 2016 OP
I never *could* figure out what the "gain" was in saying "hey! women can be cannon fodder, too!" villager Feb 2016 #1
Why replace with more of the same? artislife Feb 2016 #3
BAM! They finally worded what I have felt for decades roguevalley Feb 2016 #4
That's an extremely serious charge. I had to look up imperial feminism Arazi Feb 2016 #2
Imperial Feminism malokvale77 Feb 2016 #5
 

villager

(26,001 posts)
1. I never *could* figure out what the "gain" was in saying "hey! women can be cannon fodder, too!"
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 02:30 PM
Feb 2016

in theory, the idea is to change an odious, necrotic system -- not be co-opted by it.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
3. Why replace with more of the same?
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 02:41 PM
Feb 2016

A lot of younger women have worked for bosses of both genders. Being female doesn't automatically make one better. We know that. We have experienced that.


the h supporters are trying to sell something as new and even if we haven't had a female president, I have lived with a woman Governor and two state senators. Patty Murray was first elected in 1992. That is a long time for younger people. Over 20 years of being in the public. Being the norm.

It reminds me of people saying that time didn't run by so fast as children. Of course not, a week was more of your life then than it is now...ratio changes....

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
2. That's an extremely serious charge. I had to look up imperial feminism
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 02:33 PM
Feb 2016
Imperial feminism is a term used by Pratibha Parmar, a black British filmmaker, to describe the struggles of black women in Britain in the 1970s, when the wave of feminism which emerged rarely captured the experiences of those women. If it did, it was often from a racist perspective.Oct 31, 2010


The Hand Mirror: imperial feminism
thehandmirror.blogspot.com › 2010/10

The rift in feminism from these comments isn't going away after the primary if even white women are taking up terms like this

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