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demwing

(16,916 posts)
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 08:20 PM Feb 2016

Bernie Photos Round 1000

Last edited Fri Feb 12, 2016, 09:04 PM - Edit history (2)

First, a comparison of the old photos:


Photo's 3 & 4 are clearly Bernie Sanders.

Green Ellipse guy from photo#1 is Bernie from photo #3, taken from a different angle.
They have the same hair, the same clothes, the same watch, and are sitting in exactly the same position.

Green Ellipse guy from photo#1 is also Green Ellipse guy (the speaker) from photo#2.
The have the same hair, clothes, and shoes, and are holding the same small white book/notepad, The book is a little hard to see in photo #1, but you can tell it's there because you can see the shadow of the left hand, just beneath that hand. Something is in that hand, and it's small, white, and of the same shape.

The guy in the Red Octagon is NOT Bernie.
He has his hair parted in the left and has no sideburns, which is very different than the known Bernie in photos #3 & #4. Plus, if you accept that the Green Ellipse guy in photo #1 is Bernie from photo #3 taken at a different angle, then it's obvious that the Red Octagon guy can't be Bernie because (duh) Bernie can't be in a photo with himself.

So far we know that photos #3 & #4 are Bernie, and that photo #1 shows Bernie sitting just like photo #3, but from a different angle.

The speaker in the disputed photo (#2) is wearing the same shoes, clothes, and hair style as Bernie in photo #1. He is also is wearing the same clothes (same collared shirt under the exact same stretched neck sweater) and has the same hair style as Bernie in photo #4.

It pretty obvious the Bernie in photo #3 is also in photo#1. It's also obvious that the speaker is the same person sitting in photo #1, taken just before or just after he stood to speak.

In short -all 4 pictures are of Bernie.

If there's any doubt left, look at the speaker's hand, shown below. Compare them to Bernie's hand from recent photos, below.

Same lanky thumb, same crooked index finger, same lazy pinky finger, same "Bernie explains stuff" hand gesture that we've all seen dozens on dozens of times.

The speaker is Bernie Sanders, the photo's - then and now - show it, and the photographer's own word confirms it.

Unless you have real evidence that proves otherwise, kindly shut the hell up before you leave a stench on this primary season that can never be washed away.

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Bernie Photos Round 1000 (Original Post) demwing Feb 2016 OP
Bernie!!!! Autumn Feb 2016 #1
Oh, THERE you are! demwing Feb 2016 #4
Bernie did grow up. Guess what movie I'm going to dig out and watch Autumn Feb 2016 #8
I think the hand thing is the more convincing part. Not that I'm convinced!!!!! bravenak Feb 2016 #2
Post removed Post removed Feb 2016 #14
... beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #16
Lots of people, thats why they post to me. bravenak Feb 2016 #20
Brilliant analysis Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #3
The posture, too. beyondbeyond Feb 2016 #15
And height. Apparently, Rappaport was much smaller. The man speaking is very tall. FourScore Feb 2016 #27
If you look closely, you can see that he always had it. winter is coming Feb 2016 #30
Just going to say this dorkzilla Feb 2016 #33
As a 6'3"er, I'll say demwing Feb 2016 #40
Well done. And a quote for some who still remain unconvinced, about pictures and other things. highprincipleswork Feb 2016 #5
ooh but wait olddots Feb 2016 #6
Stench demwing Feb 2016 #9
At this link is a lovely photo of John Lewis from 1963, by Danny Lyon who took the Bernie photos Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #7
Very nice TubbersUK Feb 2016 #10
Wow just WOW Autumn Feb 2016 #11
I am naive... but I expected better from the HRC camp. nt lumberjack_jeff Feb 2016 #12
I'm right there with you demwing Feb 2016 #18
Bad thing is that tex-wyo-dem Feb 2016 #34
Today has been a very ugly eye opening. libtodeath Feb 2016 #26
I never expected better. pangaia Feb 2016 #32
I didn't. nt SusanCalvin Feb 2016 #45
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #13
Looks like his sideburns extend well below his eyeglass frames, too. suffragette Feb 2016 #17
You're right - just updated the OP demwing Feb 2016 #19
Thanks. In the current pics, he's still rockin' the same sideburns suffragette Feb 2016 #22
We gotta call them Sideberns demwing Feb 2016 #23
Oh, yes! suffragette Feb 2016 #25
Excellent analysis.... we all know that it's Bernie. We also know that the Clintons and their AzDar Feb 2016 #21
Excellent analysis! Thanks! Hope this gets widely disseminated! amborin Feb 2016 #24
More analysis than the Zapruder film? Trajan Feb 2016 #28
I can hear the teeth gnashing from here... CentralMass Feb 2016 #29
I like the hand/finger bit.. Cool!! pangaia Feb 2016 #31
Standard Republican tactic.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #35
Well, this dispelled my doubt. SusanCalvin Feb 2016 #39
I read some overzealous Henry's supporters went into the archives and changed the picture captions.. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #42
Like how a flower opens or how the pyramids were built, we may never know.... AlbertCat Feb 2016 #36
I appreciate this. However, SusanCalvin Feb 2016 #37
You're right - it should not be demwing Feb 2016 #43
Oh yeah, I totally understand and appreciate. nt SusanCalvin Feb 2016 #44
K&R. JDPriestly Feb 2016 #38
Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Feb 2016 #41
 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
2. I think the hand thing is the more convincing part. Not that I'm convinced!!!!!
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 08:23 PM
Feb 2016

But we need more hand, those look like his

I need to see bruces hands too

Response to bravenak (Reply #2)

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
3. Brilliant analysis
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 08:26 PM
Feb 2016

The collar and neckline too, and sweater. And I think the wristwatch is also in photo #2.



beyondbeyond

(6 posts)
15. The posture, too.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 08:56 PM
Feb 2016

I read somewhere that his posture is not just older man but that he always had that. It is that forward head or forward neck posture. It's pretty obvious. (This supposedly can cause some pain but does not seem to keep Bernie down!)

Good work analyzing these photos, guys.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
30. If you look closely, you can see that he always had it.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 09:45 PM
Feb 2016

I've known a couple of other people like that--had the shoulder stoop from young adulthood. And, come to think of it, they're all tall.

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
33. Just going to say this
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 10:32 PM
Feb 2016

My husband has the same posture. My husband is warm, intelligent, cares about people, is mortified when any attention is on him and he's 6'2. He reached that height at 14, and a tall nerd isn't going to want to stand out.

Now me, I'm 5'6" and act like I'm 9 feet tall. But I'm also a jerk, so there's that.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
40. As a 6'3"er, I'll say
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 11:35 PM
Feb 2016

It's because we subconsciously want to "normalize" our height, so we stoop, sometimes.

 

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)
5. Well done. And a quote for some who still remain unconvinced, about pictures and other things.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 08:30 PM
Feb 2016
The stiff and unbending is the disciple of death.
The gentle and yielding is the disciple of life.
Thus an army without flexibility never wins a battle.
A tree that is unbending is easily broken.

Lao Tzu (c.604 - 531 B.C.)
 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
6. ooh but wait
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 08:32 PM
Feb 2016

isn't that an inverted pentagram in sector 7 of photo #4 ?
Its like being in grade school this election but instead of feeling young I feel really old .

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
9. Stench
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 08:43 PM
Feb 2016

Disgusting stench of political bullshit, and the odor of the rotting corpse of the Third Way "Democrats"

Time to clean house. Laugh all you like, it just makes us ever the more steadfast in our opposition to the decay.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
7. At this link is a lovely photo of John Lewis from 1963, by Danny Lyon who took the Bernie photos
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 08:34 PM
Feb 2016

Just for ironic good fun and perspective on the photographer's work.

http://www.mocp.org/detail.php?t=objects&type=browse&f=maker&s=Lyon%2C+Danny&record=81

TubbersUK

(1,439 posts)
10. Very nice
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 08:44 PM
Feb 2016

I'm not sure that those who launched all of this shite realised that the photograph was taken by a well known and well respected photo journalist.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
18. I'm right there with you
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 09:07 PM
Feb 2016

hugely disappointed, to the degree that it makes twitch if I think on it too much

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
32. I never expected better.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 09:52 PM
Feb 2016

In fact I expect a lot worse to come.
It is not just the Clinton Camp.. it is all of it. The entire rotten Potemkin structure.

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
17. Looks like his sideburns extend well below his eyeglass frames, too.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 09:07 PM
Feb 2016

Very different than the other guy.

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
22. Thanks. In the current pics, he's still rockin' the same sideburns
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 09:18 PM
Feb 2016

And his eyeglasses still hit them at the same point.

Great OP!

 

AzDar

(14,023 posts)
21. Excellent analysis.... we all know that it's Bernie. We also know that the Clintons and their
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 09:13 PM
Feb 2016

lackeys are dirty and desperate.

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
28. More analysis than the Zapruder film?
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 09:33 PM
Feb 2016

Nah, but pretty impressive work, nonetheless ...

Thank you!

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
35. Standard Republican tactic....
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 10:46 PM
Feb 2016

You don't have to actually WIN an argument.

All you have to do is muddy the argument enough so your target audience has doubt.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
42. I read some overzealous Henry's supporters went into the archives and changed the picture captions..
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 11:56 PM
Feb 2016

I have yet to see if the gravedancers are dancing a new jig.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
36. Like how a flower opens or how the pyramids were built, we may never know....
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 11:03 PM
Feb 2016

Oh wait!

We know exactly how both those things were done.

Never mind.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
37. I appreciate this. However,
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 11:24 PM
Feb 2016

It should not even be necessary, unless people are saying a respected professional photographer is incompetent or a liar.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
43. You're right - it should not be
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 01:49 AM
Feb 2016

But it seemed as if it was necessary.

When Skinner started to jump in, it set me to this. Pissed me off, actually, but we take our motivation from whenever and wherever it comes, right?

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