2016 Postmortem
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First, a comparison of the old photos:
Photo's 3 & 4 are clearly Bernie Sanders.
Green Ellipse guy from photo#1 is Bernie from photo #3, taken from a different angle.
They have the same hair, the same clothes, the same watch, and are sitting in exactly the same position.
Green Ellipse guy from photo#1 is also Green Ellipse guy (the speaker) from photo#2.
The have the same hair, clothes, and shoes, and are holding the same small white book/notepad, The book is a little hard to see in photo #1, but you can tell it's there because you can see the shadow of the left hand, just beneath that hand. Something is in that hand, and it's small, white, and of the same shape.
The guy in the Red Octagon is NOT Bernie.
He has his hair parted in the left and has no sideburns, which is very different than the known Bernie in photos #3 & #4. Plus, if you accept that the Green Ellipse guy in photo #1 is Bernie from photo #3 taken at a different angle, then it's obvious that the Red Octagon guy can't be Bernie because (duh) Bernie can't be in a photo with himself.
So far we know that photos #3 & #4 are Bernie, and that photo #1 shows Bernie sitting just like photo #3, but from a different angle.
The speaker in the disputed photo (#2) is wearing the same shoes, clothes, and hair style as Bernie in photo #1. He is also is wearing the same clothes (same collared shirt under the exact same stretched neck sweater) and has the same hair style as Bernie in photo #4.
It pretty obvious the Bernie in photo #3 is also in photo#1. It's also obvious that the speaker is the same person sitting in photo #1, taken just before or just after he stood to speak.
In short -all 4 pictures are of Bernie.
If there's any doubt left, look at the speaker's hand, shown below. Compare them to Bernie's hand from recent photos, below.
Same lanky thumb, same crooked index finger, same lazy pinky finger, same "Bernie explains stuff" hand gesture that we've all seen dozens on dozens of times.
The speaker is Bernie Sanders, the photo's - then and now - show it, and the photographer's own word confirms it.
Unless you have real evidence that proves otherwise, kindly shut the hell up before you leave a stench on this primary season that can never be washed away.
Autumn
(45,060 posts)demwing
(16,916 posts)Autumn
(45,060 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)But we need more hand, those look like his
I need to see bruces hands too
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bravenak
(34,648 posts)Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)The collar and neckline too, and sweater. And I think the wristwatch is also in photo #2.
beyondbeyond
(6 posts)I read somewhere that his posture is not just older man but that he always had that. It is that forward head or forward neck posture. It's pretty obvious. (This supposedly can cause some pain but does not seem to keep Bernie down!)
Good work analyzing these photos, guys.
FourScore
(9,704 posts)As is Bernie.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)I've known a couple of other people like that--had the shoulder stoop from young adulthood. And, come to think of it, they're all tall.
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)My husband has the same posture. My husband is warm, intelligent, cares about people, is mortified when any attention is on him and he's 6'2. He reached that height at 14, and a tall nerd isn't going to want to stand out.
Now me, I'm 5'6" and act like I'm 9 feet tall. But I'm also a jerk, so there's that.
demwing
(16,916 posts)It's because we subconsciously want to "normalize" our height, so we stoop, sometimes.
highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)The gentle and yielding is the disciple of life.
Thus an army without flexibility never wins a battle.
A tree that is unbending is easily broken.
Lao Tzu (c.604 - 531 B.C.)
olddots
(10,237 posts)isn't that an inverted pentagram in sector 7 of photo #4 ?
Its like being in grade school this election but instead of feeling young I feel really old .
Disgusting stench of political bullshit, and the odor of the rotting corpse of the Third Way "Democrats"
Time to clean house. Laugh all you like, it just makes us ever the more steadfast in our opposition to the decay.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Just for ironic good fun and perspective on the photographer's work.
http://www.mocp.org/detail.php?t=objects&type=browse&f=maker&s=Lyon%2C+Danny&record=81
TubbersUK
(1,439 posts)I'm not sure that those who launched all of this shite realised that the photograph was taken by a well known and well respected photo journalist.
Autumn
(45,060 posts)Impressive work.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)demwing
(16,916 posts)hugely disappointed, to the degree that it makes twitch if I think on it too much
tex-wyo-dem
(3,190 posts)I think we've only begun to see how low they will go.
libtodeath
(2,888 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)In fact I expect a lot worse to come.
It is not just the Clinton Camp.. it is all of it. The entire rotten Potemkin structure.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,355 posts)Thanks for the thread, demwing.
suffragette
(12,232 posts)Very different than the other guy.
demwing
(16,916 posts)suffragette
(12,232 posts)And his eyeglasses still hit them at the same point.
Great OP!
demwing
(16,916 posts)suffragette
(12,232 posts)AzDar
(14,023 posts)lackeys are dirty and desperate.
amborin
(16,631 posts)Trajan
(19,089 posts)Nah, but pretty impressive work, nonetheless ...
Thank you!
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)I never wold have picked up on that.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)You don't have to actually WIN an argument.
All you have to do is muddy the argument enough so your target audience has doubt.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)I have yet to see if the gravedancers are dancing a new jig.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Oh wait!
We know exactly how both those things were done.
Never mind.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)It should not even be necessary, unless people are saying a respected professional photographer is incompetent or a liar.
demwing
(16,916 posts)But it seemed as if it was necessary.
When Skinner started to jump in, it set me to this. Pissed me off, actually, but we take our motivation from whenever and wherever it comes, right?
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Thank you, demwing.