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Sun Oct 7, 2012, 05:10 PM

Funniest comment I've seen regarding the debate performance...

On another site where right wingers abound (it's a weight loss program) one of the
people I know fairly well put up a thread about the Presidential Debate because
she's truly ambivalent about her choice for POTUS. She recognizes, as a resident
of Utah, that her vote for POTUS doesn't really count, but it's important to her.
She's an out lesbian with a Mormon family. She says she's a Democrat...but
she worked for a defense contractor for many years and got a very close up
look at 'government waste'. Hmm...

Sensing her ambivalence, I put up a post regarding issues, looking at it from
the perspective of Republicans for Obama. I used the info from this thread
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=123141
and later referred to http://www.republicansforobama.org/

Major snark ensued from other people on the website!!! Not a surprise!


So, then I decided this a.m. to challenge her assertion
that "Romney is a good man". I disputed it based on:

he's an animal abuser;
he's a bully;
he's a liar;
he's all about the money without regard to how he gets it or who gets hurt in the process.

I provided links for everything. In fact, here's my
post from this a.m.:

Wow. Initially, I decided to stay away from this, but after trying to focus my comments on issues rather than personality while addressing M's clear ambivalence, and seeing the snark that erupted from doing so, I'm going to question the assumption that Romney is a good man.

What is good? What unbalances the scale from all the good things that a person does to the not-so-good things that the same person does?

M states that she believes Romney is a good man. I don't come to the same conclusion. Why? Here's my list:

--He is an animal abuser. And for those who like to play snarky, check out
http://www.dogsagainstromney.com/

--He is a bully. I do not write off his 'pranks'-- that included holding down a gay man and cutting his hair--as meaningless. It says something about his character. http://www.newyorker.com/online/blog...ney-bully.html

--He is a liar. There are so many documented instances of this that I won't list any links. Just google his name and liar. Many will say all politicians lie. They definitely all make promises--some of which turn out to be very difficult to keep. Did they intend to keep them? Did they change their mind along the way? Sure, there's nuance to whether a promise not kept is a lie. Again, take the whole history of the person and look to see whether the lies form a pattern across all areas of life.

--Money is everything to the man. It's all about money, no matter how he gets it or who is hurt by his actions. This is the story of Bain Capital. http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...pital-20120829

I was a reluctant supporter of Obama in 2008. I'm such a flaming lefty that Obama was much too far to the right of center for my liking. I grew up with Republican parents--Reagan Republicans--and my brother is a staunch Republican. I understand Eisenhower Republicans: remember he was the one who warned of the military-industrial complex. For all the discussion on this thread about cutting the budget, you have to ask, where are you going to make those cuts? There hasn't been ONE word in this thread about touching the defense budget--which is among the categories where significant cuts can be made to discretionary spending. It has to be on the table--because if the US wants to go to war it has to pay for it. Whining about insufficient tax breaks for the richest among us--who DON'T send their kids off to be maimed and die for us--while the rich get richer and the poor get poorer is going to push this country to the brink of civil unrest. Countries that have huge gaps in inequality tend to not do well.
http://www.theatlantic.com/internati...ality/245315/#
And that is where the US is headed unless/until the people of this country wake up and insist that their elected representatives start working together. The Republicans made it their primary goal to obstruct during President Obama's first term--they even said it out loud!--and that behavior has to stop. https://bangordailynews.com/2012/05/...ling-congress/
President Obama has shown a willingness to negotiate with anyone--on anything--who would come to the table. It's time to get over our differences and work towards common goals.



OMG. After that, the right wingers went bonkers!

But, here comes the punch line. I just checked the thread and one of other lefties posted this:

What stuck out most for me was the Big Bird statement. For me it summarized what I don't like about the Republican challenger. He doesn't get what's important to the average US person. Funding for Big Bird by the gov't is miniscule and the stats are there to show the positive effect of Sesame Street on early and later education. But he would keep tax breaks (aka corporation welfare) to oil companies.

But what made me laugh is the goal comparison of first time candidate Obama vs first time Romney. It shows how far we have come.

Obama 2008: I will get Bin Laden
Romney 2012: I will get Big Bird


That is just too funny!!!

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BeyondGeography Oct 2012 #1
JoePhilly Oct 2012 #2
LiberalFighter Oct 2012 #3
mnhtnbb Oct 2012 #8
LP2K12 Oct 2012 #4
calimary Oct 2012 #5
mnhtnbb Oct 2012 #10
freshwest Oct 2012 #20
Cha Oct 2012 #6
mnhtnbb Oct 2012 #11
cr8tvlde Oct 2012 #7
ailsagirl Oct 2012 #9
Coyotl Oct 2012 #12
southernyankeebelle Oct 2012 #13
ErikJ Oct 2012 #14
mnhtnbb Oct 2012 #19
DeSwiss Oct 2012 #15
NCLefty Oct 2012 #16
Doctor_J Oct 2012 #17
mnhtnbb Oct 2012 #18

Response to mnhtnbb (Original post)

Sun Oct 7, 2012, 05:27 PM

1. Bin Laden/Big Bird

That should go viral. My mostly apolitical wife just hurt herself laughing.

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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #1)

Sun Oct 7, 2012, 05:42 PM

2. A great image for this ...

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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #1)

Sun Oct 7, 2012, 05:49 PM

3. I'm going to help.

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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #1)

Sun Oct 7, 2012, 07:13 PM

8. See, this all came from reaching out to someone whose vote won't matter!

But it engaged righties and lefties on another site...and all of a sudden, wow,
there's this great juxtaposition!

It IS funny. Hope your wife is ok!

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Response to mnhtnbb (Original post)

Sun Oct 7, 2012, 05:53 PM

4. It's not that hard...

to challenge Romney's debate performance.

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Response to mnhtnbb (Original post)

Sun Oct 7, 2012, 06:06 PM

5. Another GREAT compendium of links to back up our statements. A KEEPER!

Everyone should bookmark threads like these so you can find 'em more easily the next time you know you're going to be with someone who's going to want to argue with you about politics. OR one of those nauseating emails that gets sent around that you've been wanting to debunk for the longest time!

Kicked, Rec'd, and Bookmarked! Thanks for posting this, mnhtnbb!

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Response to calimary (Reply #5)

Sun Oct 7, 2012, 07:15 PM

10. We have to go to the wire trying to reach folks...and you never know

what is going to trigger a great remark!

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Response to calimary (Reply #5)

Mon Oct 8, 2012, 05:04 PM

20. +1

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Response to mnhtnbb (Original post)

Sun Oct 7, 2012, 06:19 PM

6. This is Awesome, mnhtnbb!

"What stuck out most for me was the Big Bird statement. For me it summarized what I don't like about the Republican challenger. He doesn't get what's important to the average US person. Funding for Big Bird by the gov't is miniscule and the stats are there to show the positive effect of Sesame Street on early and later education. But he would keep tax breaks (aka corporation welfare) to oil companies.

But what made me laugh is the goal comparison of first time candidate Obama vs first time Romney. It shows how far we have come.

Obama 2008: I will get Bin Laden
Romney 2012: I will get Big Bird"


I've read a lot about bin laden vs Big Bird..but, never illustrated quite well as in your post. Then Senator Obama did say he would get bin laden..and sure Enough at the debate mittLies said he would Get Big Bird Goon!

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Response to Cha (Reply #6)

Sun Oct 7, 2012, 07:16 PM

11. I laughed SO hard. Couldn't believe how succinctly it was phrased and how well

it illustrated the difference between the two men!

Wish I could take credit for the remark, but I was just a catalyst for it to
be posted by another lefty!

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Response to mnhtnbb (Original post)

Sun Oct 7, 2012, 07:00 PM

7. Those born in the 30s watched Sesame Street with their kids born in the 60s

My niece just told me she saw the first show in 1969...that her Mother invited the neighborhood kids to watch. That's four generations.

Watching the real Big Bird on SNL, I waited for the joke/the punch line. The joke was that there wasn't one...just an innocent children's icon explaining that he was the original "tweeter".

Watch what passes for "children's programming" these days and weep.

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Response to mnhtnbb (Original post)

Sun Oct 7, 2012, 07:14 PM

9. Good work, mnhtnbb!

Stick it to 'em

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Response to mnhtnbb (Original post)

Sun Oct 7, 2012, 07:21 PM

12. Obama 2008: I will get Bin Laden -- VERSUS -- Romney 2012: I will get Big Bird

 

LOL

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Response to mnhtnbb (Original post)

Sun Oct 7, 2012, 07:32 PM

13. Wow that last comment says it all. Thanks for the laugh.

 

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Response to mnhtnbb (Original post)

Sun Oct 7, 2012, 07:33 PM

14. For Romney lies use this link: Pants On Fire Mitt Romney tells 616 Lies in 33 Weeks

 

Pants On Fire Mitt Romney tells 616 Lies in 33 Weeks
September 8, 2012
By Ann Werner http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/09/08/mitt-romney-616-lies-in-33-weeks/

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Response to ErikJ (Reply #14)

Mon Oct 8, 2012, 12:20 PM

19. Oh, that's a good one! Thanks!

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Response to mnhtnbb (Original post)

Sun Oct 7, 2012, 07:53 PM

15. K&R

 



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Response to DeSwiss (Reply #15)

Sun Oct 7, 2012, 07:57 PM

16. Hah!

That's hilarious, but only if you get it

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Response to mnhtnbb (Original post)

Mon Oct 8, 2012, 12:07 PM

17. So this Utah lesbian witnessed Defense Dept waste...

 

and because of that is thinking of voting Repuke??!??!!?

Cognitive Dissonance

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Response to Doctor_J (Reply #17)

Mon Oct 8, 2012, 12:09 PM

18. Oh, no, what she witnessed were gov't employees wasting time, not doing jobs, etc.

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