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bravenak

(34,648 posts)
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 06:42 AM Feb 2016

Hillary Clinton, in push for black support, promises to tackle racial disparities

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-blacks-idUSKCN0VP2JZ
U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton courted the critical black vote on Tuesday as she met with civil rights leaders in New York and promised in a speech to tackle "very real barriers" confronting African-Americans.

Clinton is seeking to maintain her lead among black voters over U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont, her rival for the Democratic nomination for the Nov. 8 election to succeed Democrat Barack Obama, the first black U.S. president.

The Clinton campaign said last week: "It will be very difficult, if not impossible, for a Democrat to win the nomination without strong levels of support among African-American and Hispanic voters."

Clinton's status as the Democratic front-runner was jolted this month when the former secretary of state beat Sanders by less than a percentage point in Iowa's caucuses and lost to him by more than 20 points in the New Hampshire primary. More than 90 percent of people in those states are white.
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Hillary Clinton, in push for black support, promises to tackle racial disparities (Original Post) bravenak Feb 2016 OP
Can you please explain to me why black people would be voting for their interest if berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #1
We have already gone through this. bravenak Feb 2016 #2
ok.. don't recall that but ok.... I couldn't think of any examples either... berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #3
Rather than attack hillary or try to make us justify ourselves bravenak Feb 2016 #4
Been doing that already tonight... but hillary supporters just want to smear bernie over and over berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #5
Bernie supporters criticize hillary constantly bravenak Feb 2016 #6
As an example.. I asked you a reasonable question ... and you flipped it .. same pattern... berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #7
Not required to answer the same question a thousand times bravenak Feb 2016 #9
okie dokie...good luck in NV berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #11
Good Luck in SC bravenak Feb 2016 #12
You may take SC but we will still be up 3 to 1 .. berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #14
You lost iowa bravenak Feb 2016 #15
That's funny... even if you did win by 0.2% which its pretty obvious that wasn't possible, that berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #17
How does the OP smear Sanders? Hoyt Feb 2016 #16
did say the OP did... just asked why black voters would be voting their interest berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #18
How can believing in pie-in-the-sky promises make life better for anyone? I believe the fastest way Hoyt Feb 2016 #19
Again.. Hillary supporter answers question with a question.. berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #20
Answers questiion with a question? Seriously? lunamagica Feb 2016 #29
"Isnt it better to discuss your candidate?" Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #22
why are white people voting for their interest if they vote for bernie? 6chars Feb 2016 #27
Black people... MrWendel Feb 2016 #28
Yep, Hillary sure cares about race issues. backscatter712 Feb 2016 #8
Hillary is nothing more than a human weathervane... sad to watch. InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2016 #10
That's what I like to see. Tackling disparities and DISCUSSING THEM bravenak Feb 2016 #13
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #25
so how would she pay for her Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #21
......... marmar Feb 2016 #23
And there we have the REAL story yourpaljoey Feb 2016 #26
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #24

berniepdx420

(1,784 posts)
1. Can you please explain to me why black people would be voting for their interest if
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 06:44 AM
Feb 2016

they vote for hillary...seriously

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
4. Rather than attack hillary or try to make us justify ourselves
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 06:50 AM
Feb 2016

Isnt it better to discuss your candidate? Because the other way (attacking hillary or trying to mak us justify) just puts peoples hackles up and they lose interest in bernie at all.

berniepdx420

(1,784 posts)
5. Been doing that already tonight... but hillary supporters just want to smear bernie over and over
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 06:54 AM
Feb 2016

again... so I thought I might get one of you to actually do something different than that...


It's been quite the pattern tonight ...almost...almost as if it came down from above... hilarious

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
6. Bernie supporters criticize hillary constantly
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 06:57 AM
Feb 2016

I have no idea why anyone expects bernie not to recieve the same treatment.

berniepdx420

(1,784 posts)
17. That's funny... even if you did win by 0.2% which its pretty obvious that wasn't possible, that
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 07:16 AM
Feb 2016

certainly can't be considered a win in the game of politics.. especially closely followed by a blowout loss in NH by 21% . You lose NV by even a little..then you can only win SC by 5-8%, or a tie..or.. having lost ... either way.. hillary will be ground hog daying it...

berniepdx420

(1,784 posts)
18. did say the OP did... just asked why black voters would be voting their interest
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 07:21 AM
Feb 2016

if they vote for hillary...

Perfect opportunity to run down at least the talking points for the reasons... but not much positivity for hillary on here or on anywhere...

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
19. How can believing in pie-in-the-sky promises make life better for anyone? I believe the fastest way
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 07:24 AM
Feb 2016

to Universal Health Coverage is adding a public option to the ACA, not re-litigating the whole health care issue. I think that is in everyone's best interest compared to letting GOPers repeal ACA and give us vouchers. Just one example.

berniepdx420

(1,784 posts)
20. Again.. Hillary supporter answers question with a question..
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 07:27 AM
Feb 2016


Hillary is going to lose in NV

good night

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
29. Answers questiion with a question? Seriously?
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 11:43 AM
Feb 2016

Last edited Wed Feb 17, 2016, 03:03 PM - Edit history (1)

Hoyt Said.

"I believe the fastest way to Universal Health Coverage is adding a public option to the ACA, not re-litigating the whole health care issue. I think that is in everyone's best interest compared to letting GOPers repeal ACA and give us vouchers. Just one example."

That, is clearly an answer. but you obviously can't give a good reply...so, deflect and ignore the answer.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
22. "Isnt it better to discuss your candidate?"
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:25 AM
Feb 2016

That's what the other poster was asking you to do: Discuss your candidate.

6chars

(3,967 posts)
27. why are white people voting for their interest if they vote for bernie?
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 10:36 AM
Feb 2016

every person has their own considerations and everyone who votes makes their own decision.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
8. Yep, Hillary sure cares about race issues.
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 07:00 AM
Feb 2016

That must be why she was up in arms about "super predators"...

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
13. That's what I like to see. Tackling disparities and DISCUSSING THEM
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 07:09 AM
Feb 2016

No generalities, getting to the heart of the issue.

Response to bravenak (Reply #13)

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
21. so how would she pay for her
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 07:49 AM
Feb 2016

Initiatives? Since Bernie must and has explained how he would pay for his.

marmar

(77,049 posts)
23. .........
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 09:32 AM
Feb 2016

from the Nation:


Why Hillary Clinton Doesn’t Deserve the Black Vote
From the crime bill to welfare reform, policies Bill Clinton enacted—and Hillary Clinton supported—decimated black America.

By Michelle Alexander


 Hillary Clinton loves black people. And black people love Hillary—or so it seems. Black politicians have lined up in droves to endorse her, eager to prove their loyalty to the Clintons in the hopes that their faithfulness will be remembered and rewarded. Black pastors are opening their church doors, and the Clintons are making themselves comfortably at home once again, engaging effortlessly in all the usual rituals associated with “courting the black vote,” a pursuit that typically begins and ends with Democratic politicians making black people feel liked and taken seriously. Doing something concrete to improve the conditions under which most black people live is generally not required.

Hillary is looking to gain momentum on the campaign trail as the primaries move out of Iowa and New Hampshire and into states like South Carolina, where large pockets of black voters can be found. According to some polls, she leads Bernie Sanders by as much as 60 percent among African Americans. It seems that we—black people—are her winning card, one that Hillary is eager to play.

And it seems we’re eager to get played. Again.

The love affair between black folks and the Clintons has been going on for a long time. It began back in 1992, when Bill Clinton was running for president. He threw on some shades and played the saxophone on The Arsenio Hall Show. It seems silly in retrospect, but many of us fell for that. At a time when a popular slogan was “It’s a black thing, you wouldn’t understand,” Bill Clinton seemed to get us. When Toni Morrison dubbed him our first black president, we nodded our heads. We had our boy in the White House. Or at least we thought we did.

Black voters have been remarkably loyal to the Clintons for more than 25 years. It’s true that we eventually lined up behind Barack Obama in 2008, but it’s a measure of the Clinton allure that Hillary led Obama among black voters until he started winning caucuses and primaries. Now Hillary is running again. This time she’s facing a democratic socialist who promises a political revolution that will bring universal healthcare, a living wage, an end to rampant Wall Street greed, and the dismantling of the vast prison state—many of the same goals that Martin Luther King Jr. championed at the end of his life. Even so, black folks are sticking with the Clinton brand. ...................(more)

http://www.thenation.com/article/hillary-clinton-does-not-deserve-black-peoples-votes/




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