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Wed Feb 17, 2016, 07:56 PM

Bernie’s Running for Re-Election on Independent Ticket

https://gobling.wordpress.com/2016/02/14/bernies-running-for-re-election-too/

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The Democratic 2016 Presidential campaign is in full swing with Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders battling it out state-by-state. Yet while all this hoopla is going on, a small fact remains quietly perched on the political back burner: Sanders is also running for re-election as an Independent. His Senate seat will be decided anew with the 2018 midterm cycle, and if Vermonters vote favorably, he’ll take office at the age of 77 for his third term.

Sanders is already collecting money for his next Senate run. A look at these contributors reveals a stark contrast from the grassroots coalition he appeals to in his Presidential campaign. Far from being a collection of Milleniels who are newly entering the job market or struggling blue collar workers, these donors are primarily retired or entrenched in professional positions.

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I have concerns about Bernie Sanders running as a "Democrat of convenience" .....Anyone else think this is deceptive?

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Reply Bernie’s Running for Re-Election on Independent Ticket (Original post)
FarPoint Feb 2016 OP
Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #1
AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #2
FarPoint Feb 2016 #24
AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #25
FarPoint Feb 2016 #27
AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #28
FarPoint Feb 2016 #31
Le Taz Hot Feb 2016 #30
cantbeserious Feb 2016 #3
DefenseLawyer Feb 2016 #4
JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #5
dana_b Feb 2016 #6
Jarqui Feb 2016 #7
PonyUp Feb 2016 #8
Jackilope Feb 2016 #9
noamnety Feb 2016 #10
Fuddnik Feb 2016 #13
Fuddnik Feb 2016 #11
thesquanderer Feb 2016 #12
HERVEPA Feb 2016 #14
merrily Feb 2016 #15
EmperorHasNoClothes Feb 2016 #16
TTUBatfan2008 Feb 2016 #17
Maedhros Feb 2016 #18
mikehiggins Feb 2016 #19
Armstead Feb 2016 #26
elleng Feb 2016 #20
awake Feb 2016 #21
TBF Feb 2016 #22
SunSeeker Feb 2016 #23
Bjornsdotter Feb 2016 #29
NanceGreggs Feb 2016 #32
FarPoint Feb 2016 #33

Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 07:59 PM

1. Would you prefer he ran as a Green or independent like Nader or Perot?

 

Because that would be the alternative to running in the Dem. primary process.

I'm guessing you would have some concerns about that as well.

Seems we can't do anything right.

Run in the primaries, get called an outsider. Run outside, get called a spoiler.

It seems maybe the Party establishment just doesn't want competition in any form whatsoever.

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 07:59 PM

2. Both Howard Dean and Joe Biden said they are grateful Bernie is running as a Democrat

 

... rather than risk splitting the vote.

That's good enough for me.

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Response to AtomicKitten (Reply #2)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:32 PM

24. He needs to run as a Democrat for the Vermont Senate Seat.

This Independent Senate situation brings his integrity into serious question. He is being deceptive...or would you say he was just hitching a ride with the Democratic Party for Shit-n-Giggles?

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Response to FarPoint (Reply #24)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:35 PM

25. He doesn't need to do shit. Who appointed you the sphincter police?

 

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Response to AtomicKitten (Reply #25)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:40 PM

27. As a Democrat....

Life long Democrat at that....I call it as I see it and Bernie Sanders is hitchhiking a free ride on the Democratic Primary Train...I find that offensive.

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Response to FarPoint (Reply #27)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:44 PM

28. You know what's offensive? Lobbyists are superdelagates.

 

And the Democrartic Party awash in corporate bribes, er, donations. This lifelong Democrat is disgusted with Hillary and the corporate takeover of the party. Bobby Kennedy would weep.

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Response to AtomicKitten (Reply #28)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:47 PM

31. Go start your own thread on the subject....sounds facinating

For now, I am addressing the deception of Bernie Sanders pretending to be a Democrat for self-serving gains.

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Response to AtomicKitten (Reply #25)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:47 PM

30. ROFLMAO!!!

"sphincter police." I am SO stealing that!

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 07:59 PM

3. Predictably Spreading Establishment FUD - Meme Number 111

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:01 PM

4. It's all part of his secret plot to overthrow the government and impose a Stalinist regime

 

Wake up America!!!!

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:01 PM

5. Yes, I'm quite sure you are 'concerned' about his run. n/t

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:01 PM

6. nope. I'm more concerned that the Democratic party is so far to the right

that someone like Bernie feels more comfortable running as an independent and is not welcome by many in the party. They are going out of their way to CRUSH his campaign. To their dismay, WE are keeping him alive!

If he doesn't win the nomination, I'm sure that most people in Vermont will be happy to hae him back as their Senator - Democrat, Independent, anyway they can get him.

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:01 PM

7. "Anyone else think this is deceptive?"

He's been very above board why he's doing it - so that him running as a Democrat doesn't split the liberal vote and elect a GOP candidate. Dem party agreed with him.

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:01 PM

8. Concern noted. nt

 

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:01 PM

9. Right now, Democratic Third Way philosophy has me more alarmed.

To me, the Clintons personify a very corrupt element using the Democratic Party. Bernie is more Democratic Party even as an Independent than Hillary will ever be.

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:02 PM

10. I'd rather have an independent run as a democrat

 

than have a republican run as a democrat.

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Response to noamnety (Reply #10)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:07 PM

13. You got that right!

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:06 PM

11. The only thing deceptive is your post.

If Bernie had run as an independent, Democrats would be totally fucked.

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:07 PM

12. Same as 2006 and 2012.

The Democratic party is fine with it, as evidenced by the fact that they don't run anyone against him.

If it's okay with them, it's okay with me.

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:12 PM

14. Well, I'll say it. What a bullshit post,

 

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:12 PM

15. No deception whatever. He has always said he didn't run as a Democrat for Congress

because he did not want to be beholden to big donors. However, he has always behaved in Congress and voted like a Democrat. He has been praised as an asset to Democrats by Howard Dean, when he was head of the DNC and by Charles Schumer, when he was head of the DSCC. Democrats don't bother running anyone against against him. In fact, he's been the nominee of the Vermont Democratic Party several times, even though they know he will not accept the nomination.

However, he also said that, if he ran for President, he would not run as a spoiler. Do you think it would have been better for the Party if he had done a Nader?

As for as convenience, poster please. Do you really think it's been less convenient for him to run as an Indie all these years, rather than have the DNC behind him? In what universe is running as an Indie for anything easier than running as a major Party candidate?

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:17 PM

16. I don't have a problem with this

Do you think it's deceptive for Hillary to run as a Democrat, considering she's to the right of Donald Trump on several big issues?

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:20 PM

17. He could have run Indy...

...and cost Hillary the election in November. By participating in the primary, he is agreeing to endorse the nominee and drop out.

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:20 PM

18. I think it is stupid to split hairs on the letter after a candidate's name.

 

Party loyalty is a sucker's game.

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:22 PM

19. I read about this on Wordpress. It actually doesn't seem to be the red letter scandal you seem to

think it is.

If Sanders wins the question is moot. If Sanders loses you'll have to wait and see if he does run for reelection as a D or an I. Or if he runs for reelection at all.

There are some people who think that having a D or an R or and I after their names means something. To me those labels are meaningless unless they stand for something, some core principles, some beliefs that are not compromised.

When they signify nothing more than a desire to get a spot at the trough and only talk about problems (and ONLY talk about them) during election years what do they actually mean?

Sanders put himself forward as a candidate in the race for the White House. He asked Democratic voters to support him. What other criteria is there for a person to be considered a Democratic Party candidate?

Are voters supporting him, despite the innumerable attacks from the Establishment, and the anointed One? Yep, even after a year in which his candidacy wasn't taken seriously by the media or the political professionals.

What else do you need besides the support of millions of Democratic voters?

According to the WordPress article, it looks like Sanders is in the pocket of retired professionals and those damn nurses. Sounds better to me than Goldman Sachs and the Friends of Henry Kissinger.

Just saying...

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Response to mikehiggins (Reply #19)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:39 PM

26. There's a retired Navy guy there

 

Must mean Bernie's in the pocket of the MIC

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:25 PM

20. No.

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:28 PM

21. Since Bernie will be the President in 2018 I am sure he will not be running for the Senate

He will be busy enough running the country.

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:29 PM

22. Nope - just thankful he's running because

I didn't vote for Clinton in '08 and she hasn't gotten any better over the years.

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:31 PM

23. Yes. nt

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:45 PM

29. I would be much happier

...if he ran as an Independent, but he didn't.

Concerned...why no, not sure why I should be.

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:49 PM

32. I have had concerns ...

... about Bernie running as a "Democrat of Convenience" since day one. That's probably because that's exactly what he's doing.

He dissed the party for decades - until it served the purpose of advancing his political ambitions. To this day, he refuses to join the party he now wants to lead.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #32)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:53 PM

33. It is good to know someone else feels the disconnect as I do.

I've been saying, Sanders has had 30-40 years to become a Democrat and did not...until 10 months ago when he decided to run for President. It's like a political "Booty Call Moment".

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