HomeLatest ThreadsGreatest ThreadsForums & GroupsMy SubscriptionsMy Posts
DU Home » Latest Threads » Forums & Groups » Retired » Retired Forums » 2016 Postmortem (Forum) » Democrats Are In Serious ...

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 01:14 PM

Democrats Are In Serious Trouble After Iowa and New Hampshire

Democrats Are In Serious Trouble After Iowa and New Hampshire
One of the Democratic candidate’s supporters are energized over an as of yet unknown kind of “political revolution.” Apparently the revolutions’ plan entails changing Koch and tea party Republicans’ hearts and minds to embrace what they have always labeled tax and spend socialism. According to the narrative, after their champion sweeps to victory as a Democrat, the entire Congress will embrace the revolution and “pass this massively transformative package of legislation without delay.” It is an exciting prospect and has energized a large number of Democrats.

The other Democratic campaign, although pledging to continue the progress set by Barack Obama, is populated by “enthusiastic and energized” supporters who are certain that Americans, particularly Americans who are women, will flock to the polls to support and elect “the first woman president.” Seriously, that is the thinking among some Democrats. Never mind that America is a patriarchal society, or that a fair percentage of half the population are the worst kind of misogynists; religious Republican women who vote in droves. It may be 2016, but among Republican ranks being a woman is a negative no matter the level of “enthusiasm,” the candidate’s supporters have to know that their champion’s strengths and qualifications are not dependent on gender.

The point is that no matter how passionate one’s supporters are, how much “energy” is being generated, how many individual donations one garners, or which group endorses which candidate, Democrats are still in serious trouble…again. That has been the consensus since the 2014 midterms when “failing” Republican incumbents across the board were handily re-elected to continue their failing ways because Republicans turn out and vote; even for failures.
***snip***
Progressive are not going to drive this election for Democrats, but they can be the impetus to put a Republican in the White House. It is noteworthy that among one candidate’s supporters, 20 percent said if their hero is not the nominee, they will sit out the general election. With Republican voters already outpacing Democrats, and one faction willing to repeat the 2010 disaster that let the Koch brothers put the tea party in control of Congress, Republicans now have two very easy paths to the White House. It is something that Democrats and Republicans alike are aware of and if the left were not so arrogant and dysfunctional they just might know it too.

If the division in the electorate mirrors the division here, the Republican's could nominate a slice of toast and win. This looks to me like a replay of 1980 and 1968.

10 replies, 1104 views

Reply to this thread

Back to top Alert abuse

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum
Replies to this discussion thread
Arrow 10 replies Author Time Post
Reply Democrats Are In Serious Trouble After Iowa and New Hampshire (Original post)
Agnosticsherbet Feb 2016 OP
djean111 Feb 2016 #1
Agnosticsherbet Feb 2016 #2
djean111 Feb 2016 #3
Agnosticsherbet Feb 2016 #6
djean111 Feb 2016 #8
Agnosticsherbet Feb 2016 #10
Trajan Feb 2016 #4
Agnosticsherbet Feb 2016 #7
TTUBatfan2008 Feb 2016 #5
Agnosticsherbet Feb 2016 #9

Response to Agnosticsherbet (Original post)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 01:18 PM

1. Another Pledge-y Thing.

 

But with Robin Williams!

Also - Bad Progressives! Bad! Bad!

At least it is now a given that Hillary is not the least bit progressive. And it is also a given that perhaps the DNC should have picked a better candidate for themselves. Force-feeding and fait accompli are not working too well, and that is not the fault of Progressives, not by a long shot.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to djean111 (Reply #1)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 01:33 PM

2. No, no pledge, just an interesting article and something to think about.

People will vote as they will and justify it as the right thing to have done, even if it turns out disastrous.

Not everything posted here is an attack on the other side, or who ever people perceive as the other side.



Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Agnosticsherbet (Reply #2)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 01:40 PM

3. "if the left were not so arrogant and dysfunctional" - translation - the left does not support

 

Centrist Hillary.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to djean111 (Reply #3)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 06:23 PM

6. I did't' write it but I think the article is accurate in the probable outcome.

I don't look forward to right dismantling every liberal program all the way back to FDR.

Opinions may vary.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Agnosticsherbet (Reply #6)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 06:28 PM

8. We are not at that point.

 

And - sorry, but I don't think Hillary is averse to dismantling some of those liberal programs. That's the problem - it is not like she and Bernie are the same on the issues, and the only difference is gender.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to djean111 (Reply #8)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 06:31 PM

10. I think Clinton will protect those liberal programs, as will Sanders.

I think if we don't hold together as an electorate in the general, that it won't matter.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Agnosticsherbet (Original post)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 01:44 PM

4. Screw this ...

 

There is NO FUCKING WAY that Trump, Cruz, Rubio our any other GOP candidate is going to win the general ... No fucking way ...

And I'm tired of DUers plopping this crap into our cereal bowls ... Fuck this ....

Gone

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Trajan (Reply #4)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 06:26 PM

7. You know, I don't remember the Four years that Gore Was President.

I remember Carter's Loss in 1980, and Nixon win in 1968.
I think people who say never do not pay attention to history.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Agnosticsherbet (Original post)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 01:45 PM

5. Democrats definitely in trouble...

Turnout doesn't lie. Big question is what will be the effect of Scalia's death? I think it will motivate both liberals and conservatives, but I have no idea which one will be more motivated. My gut instinct says conservatives due to the fact they want to replace him with a conservative and they were already very fired up after 8 years of a Democrat in the White House.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to TTUBatfan2008 (Reply #5)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 06:29 PM

9. Scalia's death, and Republicans refusal to fill the vacency, will be a wash.

Republican's are really motivated by fear, and the fear that Liberals will control the Holy High Court will be a real factor there.

Democrats will be motivated by hope that we will finally get a court that works for everyone.

The question will be which is the stronger motivator, fear or hope.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink

Reply to this thread