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CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 06:34 PM Feb 2016

Elizabeth Warren Needs To Stand Up And Endorse Bernie Sanders NOW

BEFORE Super Tuesday... IF she truly cares about America...

IF Warren does not ENDORSE Senator Sanders NOW then she is no longer a national figure because she will have decided to stay on the sidelines in the Democratic Presidential Primary race. Therefor, she should confine her email list and fundraising for her senate seat in Massachusetts to the people who reside in Massachusetts.
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Elizabeth Warren Needs To Stand Up And Endorse Bernie Sanders NOW (Original Post) CorporatistNation Feb 2016 OP
i agree, time to come off the fence restorefreedom Feb 2016 #1
She has been busy fundraising... Agschmid Feb 2016 #9
h,mmm, fundraising is her senate seat up? restorefreedom Feb 2016 #13
Not soon... Agschmid Feb 2016 #17
honestly, i am getting ready to check out politics completely. restorefreedom Feb 2016 #21
It's not any consolation but I feel the same way... And this primary did that to me. Agschmid Feb 2016 #45
yeah, it does help to commiserate restorefreedom Feb 2016 #59
Reports of Clinton Campaign CHEATING!!! Watch Video! CorporatistNation Feb 2016 #52
this will be coming out over the next few days. nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #57
OH NO! George II Feb 2016 #65
How much money does she really need to be re-elected in Massachusetts? merrily Feb 2016 #103
The CHEATING was EGREGIOUS! CorporatistNation Feb 2016 #48
this doesn't surprise me. nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #56
Bernie Sanders will be formally complaining, right? brooklynite Feb 2016 #72
I Just Received ANOTHER Email From Warren! She Needs To Put Up Or Shut Up! CorporatistNation Feb 2016 #67
agree. this principled posturing needs to stop restorefreedom Feb 2016 #71
She'll give another speech. nt Skwmom Feb 2016 #84
That would be a good thing to do. It's a shame she didn't run. Vinca Feb 2016 #2
What if she doesn't? Nt gwheezie Feb 2016 #3
Keep throwing people under that bus Codeine Feb 2016 #4
Hey, The Bus Is Being Driven By Her... Stand Up And Be Counted, Corporatists vs Da People! CorporatistNation Feb 2016 #18
Maybe she's with the people who voted her into office. n/t seaglass Feb 2016 #53
Count me in! sheshe2 Feb 2016 #66
Man, this place is going to be funnier than I thought nt firebrand80 Feb 2016 #5
+1... SidDithers Feb 2016 #11
. MohRokTah Feb 2016 #69
Yep Gothmog Feb 2016 #82
Your sig line! ROFL! ROFL! ROFL! ROFL! ROFL! ROFL! PM Martin Feb 2016 #106
Here Is YOUR Presidential Candidate... Quite "Presidential" Isn't She? CorporatistNation Feb 2016 #112
IF Warren Has No Stomach For Standing Up For Her "Purported" Principles Then Her CorporatistNation Feb 2016 #12
With us or against us! firebrand80 Feb 2016 #15
That's just embarrassing. DavidDvorkin Feb 2016 #6
She is a politician nt geek tragedy Feb 2016 #7
Fat chance now. Nedsdag Feb 2016 #8
The Caucus Today In Clark County Nevada Was ATravesty Ofg Clintonian Shenanigans ala 2000 CorporatistNation Feb 2016 #10
Oh, here we go with the sour grapes conspiracy theories. Give it up. RBInMaine Feb 2016 #16
THESE ARE Da Facts BUD! She Cannot Help Herself, It's Clinical With Her CorporatistNation Feb 2016 #31
What color tshirt should Warren wear? gwheezie Feb 2016 #28
We were robbed! mcar Feb 2016 #58
Wha? ismnotwasm Feb 2016 #14
She's a national figure because she worked with the Obama administration LuvLoogie Feb 2016 #19
Old News... She Is Falling in Grace from Her Failure To Back Up Her Words of Principle With ACTION! CorporatistNation Feb 2016 #33
It was "The Establishment" that brought the Consumer Protection Agency to fruition. LuvLoogie Feb 2016 #44
She's "FALLING IN GRACE!" - this is rich jsmirman Feb 2016 #117
What difference would it make? BS needs to pick up moderate and stopbush Feb 2016 #20
Moderate support I can understand. But establishment support? Ron Green Feb 2016 #29
Maybe there's a REASON she hasn't endorsed Sanders... brooklynite Feb 2016 #22
Maybe there's a REASON she hasn't endorsed Clinton... senz Feb 2016 #89
The Clinton folks aren't DEMANDING an endorsement... brooklynite Feb 2016 #90
Bernie doesn't demand and Clinton finagles privately. senz Feb 2016 #91
I see...Warren gave support to a "corrupt", "evil" "warmonger" because of meaningless collegiality brooklynite Feb 2016 #100
Since you've ceased to make sense senz Feb 2016 #102
Liz Warren And Bill Moyers... Hillary "CAUGHT" Again! Cannot Explain Herself! CorporatistNation Feb 2016 #108
2004 was a GREAT year... brooklynite Feb 2016 #110
"We had to Bern the village in order to save it." Codeine Feb 2016 #23
That's it, tell that woman what to do! Blue_Adept Feb 2016 #24
Such A "CHEAP" Shot! CorporatistNation Feb 2016 #40
GDP is never about being reasonable. Blue_Adept Feb 2016 #64
Yes she does. Le Taz Hot Feb 2016 #25
That IS Sad To Say... The TRUTH! CorporatistNation Feb 2016 #34
Maybe she doesn't think he would be a better president than Hillary? book_worm Feb 2016 #26
I'm beginning to think Warren cares about Warren. n/t Skwmom Feb 2016 #27
Hellloooo There... That Most Likely Is Indeed The Case... CorporatistNation Feb 2016 #37
Unlike a lot of politicians, Warren has wisely stayed out of the fray. earthshine Feb 2016 #30
She is behaving like the ULTIMATE self serving politician. What she rails against she wants to see Skwmom Feb 2016 #50
I don't understand what you are saying, or how it addresses my post. earthshine Feb 2016 #118
Bullshit. winter is coming Feb 2016 #32
Such A Statement Is Apprpriately Characterized As Being Demonstrative of Uninformed Thinking... CorporatistNation Feb 2016 #35
You grossly overestimate the number of people who care about whether or not EW endorses anyone. n/t winter is coming Feb 2016 #36
Your Moniker Is Inconsistent With Your Voiced Positions... CorporatistNation Feb 2016 #38
I'm a Bernie supporter. n/t winter is coming Feb 2016 #41
The endorsement ship has sailed. Warren would look pretty dumb oasis Feb 2016 #39
She's free to do whatever is her choice. She doesn't owe me, and I don't need directions HereSince1628 Feb 2016 #42
Nothing Elizabeth Warren supports would ever happen under HRC. We all know that. Ken Burch Feb 2016 #43
She will endorse Hillary eventually gemlake Feb 2016 #46
I guess we'll find out if she's all talk like so many others. Waiting For Everyman Feb 2016 #47
So MAny Are Indeed... It Is The "System" That Is The Cause And We Have But ONE Choice CorporatistNation Feb 2016 #61
The number of frauds exposed this election cycle is mind boggling. n/t Skwmom Feb 2016 #81
I think Elizabeth Warren should probably stay clean from this primary. aikoaiko Feb 2016 #49
how is elizabeth warren going to help with black voters ? JI7 Feb 2016 #51
I wish she would. TIME TO PANIC Feb 2016 #54
A little early to Toss her under the bus, isn't it? Agnosticsherbet Feb 2016 #55
No loyalsister Feb 2016 #60
She doesn't get a say in it? Perhaps she isn't interested in endorsing Sanders NOW. George II Feb 2016 #62
that would only convince the same people treestar Feb 2016 #63
Wow. Just wow! sheshe2 Feb 2016 #68
The Political Morality Of The Situation Demands Her To Take A Stand NOW Not After Race is Decided! CorporatistNation Feb 2016 #113
Well sheshe2 Feb 2016 #114
All because YOU say she should. MohRokTah Feb 2016 #70
I have a Wall Street reception with her next month...I'll be happy to check with her. brooklynite Feb 2016 #73
Nah, she would rather endorse the winner - Hillary Rodham Clinton. Kang Colby Feb 2016 #74
I'm going to need some extra hands for all of the face palms this deserves mythology Feb 2016 #75
Would help him little and her even less at this point. bettyellen Feb 2016 #76
I think that she will endorse after Super Tuesday. NCTraveler Feb 2016 #77
I don't see any upside to her endorsement before it's a foregone conclusion Recursion Feb 2016 #79
I'm a Clinton supporter and big fan of Warren. NCTraveler Feb 2016 #86
She could deliver a "mercy killing" to a struggling Sanders campaign if needs be Recursion Feb 2016 #87
I don't see how you can be a fan of both: they are complete opposites. senz Feb 2016 #93
Ok. NCTraveler Feb 2016 #94
OK. senz Feb 2016 #96
Or in a good mood, wanting to extend a positive gesture,... NCTraveler Feb 2016 #97
Okay, that's fine. senz Feb 2016 #98
Likes Warren; voting for Hillary LuvLoogie Feb 2016 #109
You Are So Naive in Thinking That There EVER Will Be A "Clinton" Administration CorporatistNation Feb 2016 #83
Why? How would that help? Is there a single person who would be swayed by her Recursion Feb 2016 #78
Unlike Sanders, she's a Democrat. Don't expect to get saved by Liz. ChimpersMcSmirkers Feb 2016 #80
Jeez, reading some of these comments on this thread makes me think that... book_worm Feb 2016 #85
EW has already made her point by not endorsing Hillary. senz Feb 2016 #88
" She is not going to risk further angering the Clinton machine" brooklynite Feb 2016 #105
Refusing to join her female colleagues' endorsement of Hill took courage. senz Feb 2016 #107
From a Massachusetts voter, I agree 100%. #itstime Fearless Feb 2016 #92
Elizabeth Warren under the BernieBros Bus itsrobert Feb 2016 #95
"BernieBros" is insulting to Sanders supporters senz Feb 2016 #99
I don't think that is going to happen. merrily Feb 2016 #101
No. PM Martin Feb 2016 #104
You think... Bohemianwriter Feb 2016 #111
Twaddle Hekate Feb 2016 #115
As if that would make a difference on Super Tuesday. Beacool Feb 2016 #116
Senator Warren workinclasszero Feb 2016 #119
It's really amazing Andy823 Feb 2016 #120
Kick and REC for exposure... nt fun n serious Mar 2016 #121
Poor Elizabeth NastyRiffraff Mar 2016 #122

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
1. i agree, time to come off the fence
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 06:35 PM
Feb 2016

if she does not stand up for her principles, i have to wonder if she has principles any longer...

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
9. She has been busy fundraising...
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 06:39 PM
Feb 2016

This Mass. resident has noticed, it's a bit odd.

I don't really care which way she goes but she should show support for someone.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
13. h,mmm, fundraising is her senate seat up?
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 06:41 PM
Feb 2016

but yeah, time to show some conviction, one way or the other.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
17. Not soon...
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 06:42 PM
Feb 2016

But what better way to fundraise then to sit on a fence and not piss off either side... Seems that ability is waning.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
21. honestly, i am getting ready to check out politics completely.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 06:45 PM
Feb 2016

and i don't often say this, but i am glad i am getting older. i would not want to see the results of the final takeover of the ruling class in this country.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
52. Reports of Clinton Campaign CHEATING!!! Watch Video!
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 07:32 PM
Feb 2016
http://usuncut.com/politics/the-nevada-caucus-is-a-complete-fiasco/

Watch Video!!!

There were also reports of supposed precinct volunteers registering new Democratic voters and automatically marking their preference for Hillary Clinton. Reddit user PPG113, who was caucusing at precinct 6686, alleged one precinct volunteer was working in tandem with the Clinton campaign:

registered early, followed directions at my caucus location. Had to reregister and the person copying my info attempted to marked me down for a differnt person than I told them. Only corrected after bringing it up 3 times…

The Volunteer was at the express desk, and no one seemed to know that were SUPPOSE to also still allow democratic party registration, though that is a different matter. Said volunteer clicked on hillary on his screen when I told him clearly Bernie, he froze, and on my third repeat, he corrected it as I stared at him. What, if anything it changes, I do not know since it was not my ballet sheet he was marking. After an hour or so, he happened to walk into my precinct and to the Hillary group’s tables.

And as US Uncut reported earlier today, Hillary Clinton supporters were seen changing into t-shirts made to look like the t-shirts worn by members of National Nurses United, which is one of Bernie Sanders’ most ardent union supporters.

The consumer website FreshDesk has launched a platform for observers to report irregularities at the Nevada caucus. The Sanders campaign has an official hotline, 702-778-4336, which supporters can use to report any issues getting in the way of voting.



Tom Cahill is a writer for US Uncut based in the Pacific Northwest. He specializes in coverage of political, economic, and environmental news. You can contact Tom via email at tom.v.cahill@gmail.com.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
103. How much money does she really need to be re-elected in Massachusetts?
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 12:39 AM
Feb 2016

Besides, if anything, Sanders' fundraising should have shown her people who have principles can raise money without going to traditional sources.

brooklynite

(94,360 posts)
72. Bernie Sanders will be formally complaining, right?
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 10:38 PM
Feb 2016

I mean, he's not the sort to let cheating go on, (if it happened)?

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
67. I Just Received ANOTHER Email From Warren! She Needs To Put Up Or Shut Up!
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 10:33 PM
Feb 2016

Incredible! In just a few days, more than 75,000 Democracy for America members have joined Elizabeth Warren's urgent petition calling on Congress to prevent Pfizer's attempt to dodge paying taxes.

That's a great showing, but we need to get more people on board to stop Pfizer and other corporations from abandoning America.

No Elizabeth... It is high time that you take a stand with the principled candidate running for President. Stop being risk averse and trying to protect your own political fortunes and act on behalf of the people in concert with your stated principles.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
18. Hey, The Bus Is Being Driven By Her... Stand Up And Be Counted, Corporatists vs Da People!
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 06:43 PM
Feb 2016

Liz... Take yer pick... Who Are you with?

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
112. Here Is YOUR Presidential Candidate... Quite "Presidential" Isn't She?
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 01:16 AM
Feb 2016

Quite clearly compulsive in this regard...

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CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
12. IF Warren Has No Stomach For Standing Up For Her "Purported" Principles Then Her
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 06:41 PM
Feb 2016

integrity is not worth a good s***!

Nedsdag

(2,437 posts)
8. Fat chance now.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 06:38 PM
Feb 2016

The Democratic establishment will put so much pressure on her, she won't be able to make a move.

More political cynicism.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
10. The Caucus Today In Clark County Nevada Was ATravesty Ofg Clintonian Shenanigans ala 2000
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 06:39 PM
Feb 2016

Between Union STRONG ARM tactics, engineered long lines to participate resulting in people having to bail out to return to work as well as the Clinton inside shenanigans of misdirection by Clinton workers the whole thing in Clark County was tainted to a considerable degree. Let's see what the primary secret ballots bring us.

Senator Elizabeth Warren needs to demonstrate her mettle... or fade into the background...

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
31. THESE ARE Da Facts BUD! She Cannot Help Herself, It's Clinical With Her
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 06:53 PM
Feb 2016
THIS... is who you trust to be President? You cannot Deny her words... AND What about them transcripts?







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gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
28. What color tshirt should Warren wear?
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 06:49 PM
Feb 2016

I agree it would be great for Sanders if she did endorse him but what if she doesn't want to?

LuvLoogie

(6,933 posts)
19. She's a national figure because she worked with the Obama administration
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 06:43 PM
Feb 2016

and Democrats in Congress to get a major initiative accomplished. She maintains her leverage and capital across the Democratic spectrum.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
33. Old News... She Is Falling in Grace from Her Failure To Back Up Her Words of Principle With ACTION!
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 07:01 PM
Feb 2016

All SHOW and NO GO... if she stands pat or instead endorses THE CORPORATIST Candidate!

LuvLoogie

(6,933 posts)
44. It was "The Establishment" that brought the Consumer Protection Agency to fruition.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 07:11 PM
Feb 2016

You want a horse to pull your wagon? Maybe you should get out and push.

stopbush

(24,392 posts)
20. What difference would it make? BS needs to pick up moderate and
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 06:44 PM
Feb 2016

establishment support. He already has the influenced-by-Elizabeth Warren vote.

At this point there is no advantage to her to endorse BS as his chances of being president just dropped off the radar.

Ron Green

(9,822 posts)
29. Moderate support I can understand. But establishment support?
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 06:49 PM
Feb 2016

That's going against the concept, you know?

brooklynite

(94,360 posts)
90. The Clinton folks aren't DEMANDING an endorsement...
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:23 PM
Feb 2016

In the meantime, I'll go with:

Elizabeth Warren praises Hillary Clinton’s Wall Street plan

Sen. Elizabeth Warren delivered influential support Monday for Hillary Clinton's proposal to expand regulation of the banking and financial services industries.

Warren said she welcomes Clinton’s warning that Republicans are trying to use the current government spending bill to weaken regulations. The liberal Massachusetts Democrat has declined to endorse anyone in the Democratic presidential primary so far.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/12/07/elizabeth-warren-praises-hillary-clintons-wall-street-plan/


Elizabeth Warren: I hope Hillary Clinton runs for president

Sen. Elizabeth Warren says she hopes Hillary Rodham Clinton runs for president in 2016 — the latest in a series of declarations of support by the Massachusetts Democrat, who some have speculated could seek the Oval Office herself.

"All all of the women — Democratic women I should say — of the Senate urged Hillary Clinton to run, and I hope she does. Hillary is terrific," Warren said during an interview broadcast Sunday on ABC's "This Week," noting that she was one of several senators to sign a letter urging Clinton to run in 2016.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2014/04/27/elizabeth-warren-i-hope-hillary-clinton-runs-for-president/
 

senz

(11,945 posts)
91. Bernie doesn't demand and Clinton finagles privately.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:44 PM
Feb 2016

Your first quote is Warren trying to encourage Hillary's "show" of regulatory support. She knows as well as anyone that Hill is bought and sold, but D.C. is a small world and Elizabeth has to play the game.

Your second quote is meaningless collegiality among female Democratic senators.

This, however, took courage on Warren's part, and it speaks volumes:

Warren was the lone holdout among women Democratic senators who publicly endorsed Clinton as a Washington fund-raiser last week.

brooklynite

(94,360 posts)
100. I see...Warren gave support to a "corrupt", "evil" "warmonger" because of meaningless collegiality
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 12:34 AM
Feb 2016
 

senz

(11,945 posts)
102. Since you've ceased to make sense
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 12:38 AM
Feb 2016

I don't think there's anything further for us to say to one another.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
108. Liz Warren And Bill Moyers... Hillary "CAUGHT" Again! Cannot Explain Herself!
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 12:50 AM
Feb 2016
Caught in a circle... Credit card companies... bankruptcy laws Hillary in bed with Wall Street for "her work" on that! So how could Warren possibly get in bed with Hillary after she got keelhauled by Hillary on this one? Have some "balls" Liz and ENDORSE Bernie!

Blue_Adept

(6,393 posts)
24. That's it, tell that woman what to do!
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 06:45 PM
Feb 2016

I, as one of her actual constituents, appreciate her staying out of it and not swaying opinion.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
25. Yes she does.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 06:46 PM
Feb 2016

I don't think I can stand to see the oligarchs rejoicing any longer. Apparently the people in the country just love being shit on.

Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
34. That IS Sad To Say... The TRUTH!
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 07:03 PM
Feb 2016

The Powers That Be "Appoint" Hillary Clinton Incorporated at OUR shared Peril!

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
26. Maybe she doesn't think he would be a better president than Hillary?
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 06:46 PM
Feb 2016

even though they probably agree more. That is probably why she isn't endorsing anyone.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
37. Hellloooo There... That Most Likely Is Indeed The Case...
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 07:07 PM
Feb 2016

Warren does NOT want to upset the AIPAC preferred candidate for the Democratic Nomination!

 

earthshine

(1,642 posts)
30. Unlike a lot of politicians, Warren has wisely stayed out of the fray.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 06:50 PM
Feb 2016

There's something wrong with elected officials endorsing other elected officials. This "recursion" creates factionalism within the parties and alienates voters. It also helps to solidify what we call the establishment.

For me, it really sucks to be on the opposing team from Al Franken, Barbara Boxer, John Lewis, and others.

We don't pay elected officials to campaign for others. We pay them to be in their offices reading bills. How many times have we heard, "I voted for the bill, but I never read it"?

Ms. Warren has earned tremendous respect from us in the past. Respect her choice now, so that she may remain untarnished voice for the progressive movement.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
50. She is behaving like the ULTIMATE self serving politician. What she rails against she wants to see
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 07:30 PM
Feb 2016

in office. That is some MAJOR bullshit.
 

earthshine

(1,642 posts)
118. I don't understand what you are saying, or how it addresses my post.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 02:51 AM
Feb 2016

I've never heard her described as self-serving. This endorsement business is disgusting.

You can clarify or let it go. It's all okay.

It's been a rough day for team Bernie.

Peace.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
32. Bullshit.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 06:58 PM
Feb 2016

Whether or not she chooses to endorse anyone is her personal decision. The notion that she'll cease being a national figure if she doesn't choose sides now is ludicrous.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
35. Such A Statement Is Apprpriately Characterized As Being Demonstrative of Uninformed Thinking...
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 07:05 PM
Feb 2016

Quite Simple really...

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
38. Your Moniker Is Inconsistent With Your Voiced Positions...
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 07:08 PM
Feb 2016

re "inequality." Clinton on INEQUALITY? Laughable...

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
42. She's free to do whatever is her choice. She doesn't owe me, and I don't need directions
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 07:10 PM
Feb 2016

on how and when to throw a person under the bus.

Sanders has many more places to make his case. The fat lady may claim a victory, but it ain't over until it's over.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
43. Nothing Elizabeth Warren supports would ever happen under HRC. We all know that.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 07:11 PM
Feb 2016

She needs to make a stand.

Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
47. I guess we'll find out if she's all talk like so many others.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 07:12 PM
Feb 2016

I'm hoping she "puts her money where her mouth is" and endorses him asap, but if she doesn't that will still show us where she really stands, which is worth knowing too. I'm losing patience lately with finding out so many highly esteemed leaders are actually frauds and sell outs.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
61. So MAny Are Indeed... It Is The "System" That Is The Cause And We Have But ONE Choice
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 08:28 PM
Feb 2016

Who can be TRUSTED to actually at least TRY and do what he says that he will do! Bernie Sanders!

aikoaiko

(34,163 posts)
49. I think Elizabeth Warren should probably stay clean from this primary.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 07:28 PM
Feb 2016


If not winning the nomination, Bernie is at least blazing a trail that she or someone else might use in the future.

Not endorsing the HRC machine during the primary is enough for me.

TIME TO PANIC

(1,894 posts)
54. I wish she would.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 07:39 PM
Feb 2016

She might think that a endorsing Sanders will divide the party if he loses the primaries;
but that's inevitable at this point.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
60. No
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 08:14 PM
Feb 2016

She will have to work with the winner. It would be stupid for any politician with a very high profile to endorse in such a contentious primary.

sheshe2

(83,654 posts)
68. Wow. Just wow!
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 10:34 PM
Feb 2016
Elizabeth Warren Needs To Stand Up And Endorse Bernie Sanders NOW



BEFORE Super Tuesday... IF she truly cares about America...


Are you telling her how to vote? I think she gets to decide.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
113. The Political Morality Of The Situation Demands Her To Take A Stand NOW Not After Race is Decided!
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 01:20 AM
Feb 2016

She either has the courage or she does not... Want to be a Kingmaker Liz? Yes or No?

Or is THIS the character of your preferred candidate?

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sheshe2

(83,654 posts)
114. Well
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 01:52 AM
Feb 2016
CorporatistNation

113. The Political Morality Of The Situation Demands Her To Take A Stand NOW Not After Race is Decided!




She either has the courage or she does not... Want to be a Kingmaker Liz? Yes or No?

Or is THIS the character of your preferred candidate?


Who is the political morality? I want names and I want links as to who they are. YOU DEMAND that she vote as you say? You DEMAND THAT! WHO THE HELL ARE YOU TO SAY HOW SHE VOTES?

Also you call her Liz, is she your closest BFF? If not show her a little respect. Her name is Senator Elizabeth Warren from the great State of Massachusetts. She is my Senator. I met with her and voted for her. Are you putting the little woman in her place? It appears that you are.

brooklynite

(94,360 posts)
73. I have a Wall Street reception with her next month...I'll be happy to check with her.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 10:42 PM
Feb 2016
Nydia M. Velazquez's Birthday Celebration: 2016
You are invited to join Congresswoman Nydia M. Velazquez, along with special guest, Senator Elizabeth Warren, as we celebrate Nydia's 63rd birthday:

When: Monday March 21st, 2016
-5:30pm Host Committee Reception
-6:00pm General Reception
Where: Battery Gardens Restaurant
 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
75. I'm going to need some extra hands for all of the face palms this deserves
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 10:47 PM
Feb 2016

Yes, anybody who doesn't think Sanders is the best thing since sliced bread doesn't care about the U.S.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
77. I think that she will endorse after Super Tuesday.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 10:57 PM
Feb 2016

Possibly the weeks before the convention. We have seen a clear pattern whith what happens when people endorse Clinton. I would rather she not endorse Clinton right now as the Clinton Administration will benefit from Warren holding a lot of clout.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
79. I don't see any upside to her endorsement before it's a foregone conclusion
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:00 PM
Feb 2016

I have trouble imagining anyone who's a Warren fan who's not already supporting Sanders. Can you describe a hypothetical voter who is like that?

(This is also why she'd make a bad VP pick for Sanders: I can't think of any new voters she brings to the table for him.)

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
86. I'm a Clinton supporter and big fan of Warren.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:12 PM
Feb 2016

Still would be if she endorsed Sanders tomorrow. I don't see her endorsing until it's a done deal.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
87. She could deliver a "mercy killing" to a struggling Sanders campaign if needs be
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:15 PM
Feb 2016

by endorsing Clinton down the road, but I can't think of a reason she would endorse Sanders unless he had it wrapped up; it doesn't do any good for him.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
96. OK.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 12:01 AM
Feb 2016

I've seen you do that before but can't figure out if it means you're upset, or defensive, or simply rude.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
97. Or in a good mood, wanting to extend a positive gesture,...
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 12:04 AM
Feb 2016

While not wanting to take on a debate.

Happy Saturday. Seriously. Lol

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
83. You Are So Naive in Thinking That There EVER Will Be A "Clinton" Administration
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:03 PM
Feb 2016

She is despised by the vast majority of Americans. Her rating for character and honesty could not get any worse...

She is patently unfit to be President. Her only cause to be President is that she wants the power and the line on her personal achievement list. This ain't over yet PERIOD! And the cheating that went on today was appalling! Adding an exclamation point to the whole sorry pile.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
78. Why? How would that help? Is there a single person who would be swayed by her
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 10:58 PM
Feb 2016

that is not already supporting Sanders? I find that difficult to imagine.

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
85. Jeez, reading some of these comments on this thread makes me think that...
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:06 PM
Feb 2016

Warren will be the next one thrown under the bus.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
88. EW has already made her point by not endorsing Hillary.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:16 PM
Feb 2016

She is not going to risk further angering the Clinton machine at this point. If Clinton manages to swindle a primary win, even if she loses in the GE, things could be unpleasant for Senator Warren -- whom we need to be as effective as possible in the Senate.

She's fine as is.

brooklynite

(94,360 posts)
105. " She is not going to risk further angering the Clinton machine"
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 12:41 AM
Feb 2016

Another political coward, I take it?

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
107. Refusing to join her female colleagues' endorsement of Hill took courage.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 12:48 AM
Feb 2016

She is not a political coward.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
99. "BernieBros" is insulting to Sanders supporters
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 12:21 AM
Feb 2016

and your "really sad" remark has a familiar "concern" ring to it.

Please take these games somewhere else.

Thanks.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
120. It's really amazing
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 06:21 PM
Feb 2016

I can't understand how so many who "claim" to be Democrats, liberals, and progressives, can constantly throw well like Democrats under the bus because they have not come out and supported Bernie. Warren has done a great job in the Senate, she had a huge following that wanted her to run, and now she is being attacked for NOT endorsing anyone. Maybe she has her own reasons for not endorsing, but so far the only side I have seen even suggesting he "HAS TO" endorse their candidate is the radical Bernie crowd. I don't lump all of those who support Bernie into the "radical" group. There a many here who support Bernie with the trashing and bashing of the "other "candidate", and who I am sure would never throw someone like Warren under the bus.

I think it says a lot about anyone who is ready to toss her simply for doing what she feels is right. GDP is really going off the cliff with post like this.

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