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I don't think Cornel West is helping Sanders with Black voters (Original Post) bravenak Feb 2016 OP
really???? rbrnmw Feb 2016 #1
Me too I thought he'd get the black vote for Bernie bravenak Feb 2016 #3
. George II Feb 2016 #10
yeah he was so nice to President Obama and everything rbrnmw Feb 2016 #11
Yes. Used kind words to describe him bravenak Feb 2016 #41
wasn't that extra special sweet of him rbrnmw Feb 2016 #43
Hella classy bravenak Feb 2016 #44
I don't either Kalidurga Feb 2016 #2
Good luck bravenak Feb 2016 #4
Cornel West isn't my problem Kalidurga Feb 2016 #12
hes SBS problem though uponit7771 Feb 2016 #38
I don't think he is a problem. Kalidurga Feb 2016 #93
Young white people, young black people don't take to Obama being called some form of the n-word uponit7771 Feb 2016 #95
I think that Sanders used West effectively in Iowa Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #96
Nope, but the white folks think he is.... giftedgirl77 Feb 2016 #5
Hee hee hee! bravenak Feb 2016 #6
Oopf! :-D NurseJackie Feb 2016 #99
Did you see this, from yesterday?... SidDithers Feb 2016 #7
Ack! Ack ack ack! bravenak Feb 2016 #13
Well, at least Cornel was good for a little something Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #97
thanks rbrnmw Feb 2016 #15
That is very funny Gothmog Feb 2016 #40
"Brother Jeb!" mcar Feb 2016 #50
to be fair he uses that term on just about everyone JI7 Feb 2016 #86
Oh dear! Starry Messenger Feb 2016 #81
lmao ismnotwasm Feb 2016 #85
I hate this Meme kcjohn1 Feb 2016 #8
"Bernie is losing 40-50 points to voters 65+" - Thank goodness for the boomers.... George II Feb 2016 #17
We need to educate them. This is bad. Hillary is way worse than any of us trillion Feb 2016 #39
How very kind of you to offer your education to unwilling students bravenak Feb 2016 #42
yes please educate black folks about their vote rbrnmw Feb 2016 #48
SMH bravenak Feb 2016 #51
Post removed Post removed Feb 2016 #54
my black knee jerk racism???? rbrnmw Feb 2016 #58
How was that post racist? ismnotwasm Feb 2016 #60
And Boomers, because we are so old and feeble and shit Hekate Feb 2016 #98
Yes, I need educatin'..... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #55
See? My god the gall bravenak Feb 2016 #59
I am a black knee jerk racist wow rbrnmw Feb 2016 #64
Aint that some shit? bravenak Feb 2016 #68
How do you deal with this crap without going postal dlwickham Feb 2016 #91
Not much of an age split in Clinton support among African Americans. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #18
That is one poll kcjohn1 Feb 2016 #29
It's a national survey and a Monmouth South Carolina poll found the same thing DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #34
Once we hit 30 or so we trend Clinton bravenak Feb 2016 #19
It's not a "meme". PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #24
So in your world kcjohn1 Feb 2016 #31
Nope. But it's still not a "meme,". PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #35
Ahhh . . . wrong, AAs are large percentage of the dem vote in South Carolina. brush Feb 2016 #57
But is the coveted Killer Mike endorsement? PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #9
Apparently not bravenak Feb 2016 #14
Well there's still Beyoncé. Oh, wait, she backs Clinton. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #76
I said he needs to start a beef with Meek Mill bravenak Feb 2016 #79
Ah, Killer Mike was very quiet tonight. George II Feb 2016 #20
Didn't bring up anyone's uterus, hopefully! FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #87
WAY too tempting, but I'll pass! George II Feb 2016 #90
I love Cornel West... but that's pretty damn funny. Skid Rogue Feb 2016 #16
I aim to please bravenak Feb 2016 #21
lol... sigh uponit7771 Feb 2016 #22
I know. I'm surprised too bravenak Feb 2016 #27
Sadly, no. ismnotwasm Feb 2016 #23
I mean, we ALL gave it our best shots, I cannot claim sole credit bravenak Feb 2016 #26
It was like watching a train wreck in slo-mo ismnotwasm Feb 2016 #66
He has been nasty towards Obama since before the inauguration. MohRokTah Feb 2016 #25
He wanted a GOLDEN TICKET to the ball but O was a meanieface bravenak Feb 2016 #28
. MohRokTah Feb 2016 #30
And a stupid head! JustAnotherGen Feb 2016 #102
LOL, bravenak Feb 2016 #104
West is not going to help Sanders asuhornets Feb 2016 #32
Nobody will ever listen to us when we tell them bravenak Feb 2016 #37
I think Cornel West appeals more to white liberals than to Black voters JRug Feb 2016 #33
OMG me too bravenak Feb 2016 #36
+1 uponit7771 Feb 2016 #56
Bernie needs some Bruce Dixon and Glen Ford too... SidDithers Feb 2016 #45
Tavis Smiley too? bravenak Feb 2016 #47
Michael Steele maybe Dr Carson rbrnmw Feb 2016 #70
All of them bravenak Feb 2016 #74
He should have gotten Harry Belafonte long ago rbrnmw Feb 2016 #83
Oh yeah.....Tavis Corp logo Smiley..... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #88
A regular prophet! bravenak Feb 2016 #89
Don't think so mcar Feb 2016 #46
Seems like he might be running us off bravenak Feb 2016 #49
How about Rapper Mike? nt LexVegas Feb 2016 #52
Nope! Him either!!!! bravenak Feb 2016 #53
I don't think your posts are helping any candidate or Democrats in general. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #61
Im sure i care bravenak Feb 2016 #65
Did you mean you don't care? nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #67
Bernie won Nevada Hispanics jfern Feb 2016 #62
ERRR! WRONG! bravenak Feb 2016 #63
I don't think they'd be off by 11 points jfern Feb 2016 #71
Try 20 bravenak Feb 2016 #72
That number was totally made up jfern Feb 2016 #75
I know bravenak Feb 2016 #78
Not really jfern Feb 2016 #82
Lost anywayz bravenak Feb 2016 #84
same poll had Sanders wining everyone by 8%, LOL. Nope! bettyellen Feb 2016 #69
Nope, he was just up 2 points in the entrance poll jfern Feb 2016 #73
Cornel West has limited appeal KingFlorez Feb 2016 #77
I agree bravenak Feb 2016 #80
Exactly. wildeyed Feb 2016 #103
Clinton rides minority support to win over Sanders in Nevada caucuses Cha Feb 2016 #92
Hahahahahaha!! bravenak Feb 2016 #94
I have never thought that Prof. West was an effective surrogate Gothmog Feb 2016 #100
I have a general rule gwheezie Feb 2016 #101

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
2. I don't either
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:20 PM
Feb 2016

and I don't think that he's courting the black vote. He is after liberals of whatever race.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
93. I don't think he is a problem.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 01:42 AM
Feb 2016

But, if he is then his is Bernie's problem. My guess is young people like him well enough.

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
7. Did you see this, from yesterday?...
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:24 PM
Feb 2016
Cornel West to Jeb: 'You stay strong'

Cornel West, an activist and surrogate for Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders, bumped into Jeb Bush in South Carolina on Friday on his way to breakfast.

"We just ran into brother Jeb, and it was good to see him," West told a Mashable reporter, indicating he gave the GOP presidential candidate and former Florida governor a hug.

"I said, 'You stay strong.' God bless he and his family," West recalled.



http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/270016-cornel-west-to-jeb-you-stay-strong



I heard Jeb just ended his campaign.

It's the Cornel kiss of death!

Sid

kcjohn1

(751 posts)
8. I hate this Meme
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:24 PM
Feb 2016

If that is issue its probably issue #73.

SC will provide these details as the black vote has so far being very small portion of the voters. If I were to guess its due to age gap. Right now Bernie is losing 40-50 points to voters 65+. I'm guessing good portion of the black vote is older.

 

trillion

(1,859 posts)
39. We need to educate them. This is bad. Hillary is way worse than any of us
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:38 PM
Feb 2016

guessed.

I didn't know how bad she was. Educate them that she seriously had her hand in destabilizing Columbia and Honduras (and admits to helping the Honduras coup) and that she also had her hand in causing the Syrian blood bath and refugee crises there. She's directly helped caused the refugee crises on both sides of the ocean.

Google it and send them links. Dems can't afford someone with this much blood on their hands.

No liberal should be voting for her.
Here's some links but a quick google and you will have your own if you google:


Hillary Clinton and the Syrian Bloodbath
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeffrey-sachs/hillary-clinton-and-the-s_b_9231190.html

Hillary Clinton Cries Crocodile Tears for Latin American Immigrants(Honduras)
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/hillary_clinton_cries_crocodile_tears_for_latin_american_immigrants_2016021

Hillary, Plan Colombia Has Been a Drug War Disaster(Columbia)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/daniel-robelo/hillary-clinton-plan-colombia_b_8557396.html

Bernie Sanders Will Ban Fracking. Hillary Clinton 'Sold Fracking to the World'
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/bernie-sanders-will-ban-fracking-_b_9156182.html






Response to rbrnmw (Reply #48)

Hekate

(90,643 posts)
98. And Boomers, because we are so old and feeble and shit
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 03:53 AM
Feb 2016
we just love being condescended to by people 1/3 our age.

dlwickham

(3,316 posts)
91. How do you deal with this crap without going postal
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 01:14 AM
Feb 2016

You are a much better person than I could ever hope to be

kcjohn1

(751 posts)
29. That is one poll
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:32 PM
Feb 2016

I have seen several others showing Bernie winning under 45 black voters. Not as much as whites but slight lead or very close margins.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
34. It's a national survey and a Monmouth South Carolina poll found the same thing
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:35 PM
Feb 2016
Among white voters under the age of 50, Sanders has a small, statistically insignificant lead of
48% to 44% over Clinton, but among black voters under 50, Clinton has a sizable 60% to 26% advantage.This is only slightly smaller than Clinton’s 69% to 12% lead among black voters age 50 and older and is
actually wider than the 59% to 39% lead she holds among older white voters in South Carolina.

http://www.monmouth.edu/university/monmouth-university-poll-reports.aspx
 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
19. Once we hit 30 or so we trend Clinton
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:27 PM
Feb 2016

You know. Pay insurance. Raising kids. Paying our student loans off. Many more of us voting age reliable voters are over 30. He is not speaking to us and we know it.

kcjohn1

(751 posts)
31. So in your world
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:33 PM
Feb 2016

You think Bernie would be doing great with black voters if he didn't have West as surrage? What was his problem when he was down 70-80 at the beginning of this process without West's support?

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
35. Nope. But it's still not a "meme,".
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:35 PM
Feb 2016

It's an idea, a theory, a thought, maybe even a "talking point".

brush

(53,764 posts)
57. Ahhh . . . wrong, AAs are large percentage of the dem vote in South Carolina.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:48 PM
Feb 2016

Better brush up on your research.

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
76. Well there's still Beyoncé. Oh, wait, she backs Clinton.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:58 PM
Feb 2016

Well maybe he can woo that cute little Bruno Mars fella.

ismnotwasm

(41,976 posts)
23. Sadly, no.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:28 PM
Feb 2016

Didn't you try to explain that Bravenek? I thought you had, and were not listened too. It's far to late now, but it was kind of you to try.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
26. I mean, we ALL gave it our best shots, I cannot claim sole credit
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:30 PM
Feb 2016

I mean number23 even tried and she gave up on these folks before i got here

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
25. He has been nasty towards Obama since before the inauguration.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:29 PM
Feb 2016

That may have something to do with it.

asuhornets

(2,405 posts)
32. West is not going to help Sanders
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:34 PM
Feb 2016

with the black vote because West hates Obama and it is well known among black people.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
37. Nobody will ever listen to us when we tell them
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:36 PM
Feb 2016

This has to happen like this i think. Cornel West:Not Helpful

JRug

(17 posts)
33. I think Cornel West appeals more to white liberals than to Black voters
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:34 PM
Feb 2016

Many of my friends who also support Bernie are really excited about him but none of my black friends like him or have any respect for him. I wish Bernie hadn't gotten tied up with him because I don't think he helps him any because black voters seem to be really turned off by him and the white voters who like him are probably already going to vote for Bernie.

My two cents.

jfern

(5,204 posts)
71. I don't think they'd be off by 11 points
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:54 PM
Feb 2016

Also the entrance poll was polling voters. Those weren't reported. Bernie likely did better with voters than delegates.

jfern

(5,204 posts)
73. Nope, he was just up 2 points in the entrance poll
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:55 PM
Feb 2016

With the correction, Bernie probably still win Hispanics.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
103. Exactly.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 02:44 PM
Feb 2016

The challenge in a big campaign is to enlarge the coalition. It stopped being about red meat for the base a long time ago, but the campaign never seemed to be able to switch gears to persuading the leaners and undecideds.

Cha

(297,137 posts)
92. Clinton rides minority support to win over Sanders in Nevada caucuses
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 01:28 AM
Feb 2016

Or killer mike's out reach, either.


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gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
101. I have a general rule
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 02:11 PM
Feb 2016

When right-wing loons use a black spokesperson to bash Obama in the media, that person is no longer credible to me. Not the same as intellectual differences but using language that no white person would use against Obama and then the Obama haters clap with glee when their racism is validated by a black man. I've heard enough from West that I don't listen to him.

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