2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumI don't think Cornel West is helping Sanders with Black voters
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/02/20/nevada-democratic-caucuses-hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders/80630742/rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)I wonder why he isn't helping???
bravenak
(34,648 posts)rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)and I don't think that he's courting the black vote. He is after liberals of whatever race.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)uponit7771
(90,335 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)But, if he is then his is Bernie's problem. My guess is young people like him well enough.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)Chitown Kev
(2,197 posts)giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)& that's all that matters.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Cornel West, an activist and surrogate for Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders, bumped into Jeb Bush in South Carolina on Friday on his way to breakfast.
"We just ran into brother Jeb, and it was good to see him," West told a Mashable reporter, indicating he gave the GOP presidential candidate and former Florida governor a hug.
"I said, 'You stay strong.' God bless he and his family," West recalled.
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/270016-cornel-west-to-jeb-you-stay-strong
I heard Jeb just ended his campaign.
It's the Cornel kiss of death!
Sid
bravenak
(34,648 posts)What the Hell? Oh my god cornel. Oh oh oh. Smh
Chitown Kev
(2,197 posts)A VERY little something.
Gothmog
(145,129 posts)mcar
(42,301 posts)Excuse me while I
JI7
(89,247 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)ismnotwasm
(41,976 posts)Too funny
kcjohn1
(751 posts)If that is issue its probably issue #73.
SC will provide these details as the black vote has so far being very small portion of the voters. If I were to guess its due to age gap. Right now Bernie is losing 40-50 points to voters 65+. I'm guessing good portion of the black vote is older.
George II
(67,782 posts)....BOOM!
trillion
(1,859 posts)guessed.
I didn't know how bad she was. Educate them that she seriously had her hand in destabilizing Columbia and Honduras (and admits to helping the Honduras coup) and that she also had her hand in causing the Syrian blood bath and refugee crises there. She's directly helped caused the refugee crises on both sides of the ocean.
Google it and send them links. Dems can't afford someone with this much blood on their hands.
No liberal should be voting for her.
Here's some links but a quick google and you will have your own if you google:
Hillary Clinton and the Syrian Bloodbath
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeffrey-sachs/hillary-clinton-and-the-s_b_9231190.html
Hillary Clinton Cries Crocodile Tears for Latin American Immigrants(Honduras)
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/hillary_clinton_cries_crocodile_tears_for_latin_american_immigrants_2016021
Hillary, Plan Colombia Has Been a Drug War Disaster(Columbia)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/daniel-robelo/hillary-clinton-plan-colombia_b_8557396.html
Bernie Sanders Will Ban Fracking. Hillary Clinton 'Sold Fracking to the World'
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/bernie-sanders-will-ban-fracking-_b_9156182.html
bravenak
(34,648 posts)rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)they love that
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rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)I am sorry I misunderstood but your comment wasn't called for
ismnotwasm
(41,976 posts)Curious
Hekate
(90,643 posts)FrenchieCat
(68,867 posts)why thank you!
bravenak
(34,648 posts)rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)SMH. My heads gonna fall off soon from all this shaking
dlwickham
(3,316 posts)You are a much better person than I could ever hope to be
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)kcjohn1
(751 posts)I have seen several others showing Bernie winning under 45 black voters. Not as much as whites but slight lead or very close margins.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)48% to 44% over Clinton, but among black voters under 50, Clinton has a sizable 60% to 26% advantage.This is only slightly smaller than Clintons 69% to 12% lead among black voters age 50 and older and is
actually wider than the 59% to 39% lead she holds among older white voters in South Carolina.
http://www.monmouth.edu/university/monmouth-university-poll-reports.aspx
bravenak
(34,648 posts)You know. Pay insurance. Raising kids. Paying our student loans off. Many more of us voting age reliable voters are over 30. He is not speaking to us and we know it.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)kcjohn1
(751 posts)You think Bernie would be doing great with black voters if he didn't have West as surrage? What was his problem when he was down 70-80 at the beginning of this process without West's support?
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)It's an idea, a theory, a thought, maybe even a "talking point".
brush
(53,764 posts)Better brush up on your research.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)BunB aint helping neither
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)Well maybe he can woo that cute little Bruno Mars fella.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Get some street cred
George II
(67,782 posts)FrenchieCat
(68,867 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)Skid Rogue
(711 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)uponit7771
(90,335 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)ismnotwasm
(41,976 posts)Didn't you try to explain that Bravenek? I thought you had, and were not listened too. It's far to late now, but it was kind of you to try.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)I mean number23 even tried and she gave up on these folks before i got here
ismnotwasm
(41,976 posts)Still is, truth to tell
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)That may have something to do with it.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)JustAnotherGen
(31,810 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)asuhornets
(2,405 posts)with the black vote because West hates Obama and it is well known among black people.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)This has to happen like this i think. Cornel West:Not Helpful
JRug
(17 posts)Many of my friends who also support Bernie are really excited about him but none of my black friends like him or have any respect for him. I wish Bernie hadn't gotten tied up with him because I don't think he helps him any because black voters seem to be really turned off by him and the white voters who like him are probably already going to vote for Bernie.
My two cents.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)I said this months ago when I was still for Bernie
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)That'll move SC into his column for sure!
Sid
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Hell we can bring in Herman Cain too
rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)he is respected by most people
FrenchieCat
(68,867 posts)he knows everything!
bravenak
(34,648 posts)mcar
(42,301 posts)What a surprise!
bravenak
(34,648 posts)LexVegas
(6,059 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)jfern
(5,204 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)He lost hispanics and blacks. Entrance polls were wrong. Look for updates, kay?
jfern
(5,204 posts)Also the entrance poll was polling voters. Those weren't reported. Bernie likely did better with voters than delegates.
She beat him by a nice percentage among latinos
jfern
(5,204 posts)Nobody knows. The exit polls are unreliable for latinos
jfern
(5,204 posts)And they correct the entrance polls. Bernie's up 8 with Hispanics.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)they did not poll anywhere near where Hillary won- majority Latino areas.
http://www.vox.com/2016/2/20/11079660/latinos-nevada-sanders
jfern
(5,204 posts)With the correction, Bernie probably still win Hispanics.
KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)Those he appeals to were probably already voting for Sanders.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)wildeyed
(11,243 posts)The challenge in a big campaign is to enlarge the coalition. It stopped being about red meat for the base a long time ago, but the campaign never seemed to be able to switch gears to persuading the leaners and undecideds.
Cha
(297,137 posts)Or killer mike's out reach, either.
Hillary Clinton Verified account
?@HillaryClinton
The feeling is mutual, Nevada.
Brave~
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Gothmog
(145,129 posts)gwheezie
(3,580 posts)When right-wing loons use a black spokesperson to bash Obama in the media, that person is no longer credible to me. Not the same as intellectual differences but using language that no white person would use against Obama and then the Obama haters clap with glee when their racism is validated by a black man. I've heard enough from West that I don't listen to him.