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MadDAsHell

(2,067 posts)
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 02:17 PM Feb 2016

Everyone's for political correctness/policing speech until these tactics are used to silence THEM.

Policing speech has all kinds of political advantages:

1) You can take something completely out of context and use it to label your opponent as sexist, racist, whatever label is mostly political effective

2) You can then use those labels as your excuse to not engage in debate/discussion, especially if you're fairly uncertain of the validity/strength of your own argument. e.g. "I'd be more than happy to discuss your concerns about Hillary's donors but Bernie and his supporters are racist, you're a Bernie supporter, and I don't have time to engage with racists.""

It's been all fun and games using these tactics over the last few decades against opponents on the right but it's shitty as hell that we're now having to deal with them internally. Who in their right mind, 1 year ago today, would have guessed that Bernie Sanders and his supporters would be considered the "racist" wing of the Democratic party?

Not to mention that whole separate discussion that we as a party are ACTIVELY eliminating the true horror of such words by using them as political tools. With how much we've abused these words over the years, does the average young person today even know what racism looks like? What sexism looks like? What bigotry looks like?

The question is, will we learn anything from this? Or will we be right back to this the next primary season?

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Everyone's for political correctness/policing speech until these tactics are used to silence THEM. (Original Post) MadDAsHell Feb 2016 OP
The accusasion of "racist" has become meaningless virgogal Feb 2016 #1
Such accusations became meaningless when they became weapons instead of truths. MadDAsHell Feb 2016 #2
Pure rightwing drivel. n/t ieoeja Feb 2016 #3
Is there a way I can DURec your response? nt MadDAsHell Feb 2016 #6
Hello? nt MadDAsHell Feb 2016 #7
In a stroke of irony Lordquinton Feb 2016 #4
Topical. I think we have some DUers that consider themselves more MIRTs than readers/posters. MadDAsHell Feb 2016 #5
LOL Matariki Feb 2016 #8
I literally could not make this stuff up. Lordquinton Feb 2016 #9
 

virgogal

(10,178 posts)
1. The accusasion of "racist" has become meaningless
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 02:31 PM
Feb 2016

because it has been so overused.

I knew a guy who was accused of being a racist because he loves ice hockey and the Boston Bruins.

White man's sport etc.

Ludicrous !

 

MadDAsHell

(2,067 posts)
2. Such accusations became meaningless when they became weapons instead of truths.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 02:37 PM
Feb 2016

If we're deciding whether to call someone a racist and the majority of our brain power is used to plan out the the political advantages of doing so, rather than to consider whether the person actually did/said something racist, we're in trouble.

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
4. In a stroke of irony
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 04:24 PM
Feb 2016

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"It's been all fun and games using these tactics over the last few decades against opponents on the right..." This poster is claiming that Democrats lie about the bigotry prevelant on the Right. Apparently a troll just decided to come out. Methinks someone is overdue for a PPR.

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Alerter, you have really outdone yourself this time. Maybe read this post and stop accusing other Democrats.
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MadDAsHell

(2,067 posts)
5. Topical. I think we have some DUers that consider themselves more MIRTs than readers/posters.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 04:38 PM
Feb 2016

If everyone has that attitude though there's nothing to read/post, it's just a bunch of hidden/locked posts, and DU becomes pointless.

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