2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWell, them Senator Sanders, if Hillary is adopting ALL your language and positions then you can
bow out gracefully and let her be the nominee with the best positions and the best experience.
That being said, Hillary does not need to adopt anything from Bernie...she has had her positions for years and has accomplished much with them.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/2007/12/11/hillary-clinton-warren-buffett-appear-together-to-denounce-income-gap.html
http://thehill.com/policy/finance/206341-clinton-presses-business-on-income-inequality
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2007/dec/14/PFA_incomegap/
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/14/us/politics/hillary-clinton-offers-her-vision-of-a-fairness-economy-to-close-the-income-gap.html?_r=0
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/hillary-clinton-goes-populist
http://www.theroot.com/articles/news/2015/06/hillary_clinton_pledges_to_close_income_gap_in_nyc_speech.html
TCJ70
(4,387 posts)...in some cases, only 3 years! LGBT issues...
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Hydra
(14,459 posts)Keep in mind some of us were here on DU at the time when the argument that was put forth by the supporters of the Establishment that the LBGT community needed to wait for when it was politically convenient for them to get even bones.
Scary republicans were making noises. Sensible people said we needed to be careful and ignore what was right.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)for members of the GLBT community, but no one else? Or why she speecified against equal marriage just when the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court was requiring it in Massachusetts?
BTW, when did she fight for civil unions?
Is there nothing you can't rationalize?
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)whatever the polls and focus groups told her to think.
She is a follower, not a leader, and I don't trust the ones she follows.
GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)warrprayer
(4,734 posts)We have a winner!
:rofl :
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)and threads from more low post count people who keep shilling for Hillary. I've seen more and more of them lately.
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)430 of them! Took me a couple of hours. I had only about 6 or 7 posters on ignore before that (and one of those was a SBSS who insisted on calling Clinton a "chick" and the most I've ever had on ignore at one time was probably less than 20. And now I've got to add this rash of HCS low-posters. It's nothing personal against any of them, but when I've got to focus my energy on getting Bernie elected, I want my online community support time to be positive.
dflprincess
(28,072 posts)Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)GreenPartyVoter
(72,377 posts)Matariki
(18,775 posts)jillan
(39,451 posts)ebayfool
(3,411 posts)Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Let me add to her accomplishments:
* Killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people with her IWR vote.
* Sending children back to Central America to b killed.
* Throwing individuals and families off of welfare and in to the streets.
* Moving jobs overseas.
* Calling children super-predators.
* Increasing wealth inequity.
* Imprisoning more people in the US than the rest of the world combined.
Thanks Hillary!
tokenlib
(4,186 posts)Lucinda
(31,170 posts)on the debate stage.
The differences come in the details about what to do to achieve progress.
tokenlib
(4,186 posts)On free trade, on Social Security expansion, on Wall Street for certain, on kissing corporate ass , on tax policy, certainly on health care, on endless war and defense contractors enriching themselves... You really have to be kidding!!
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts)In fact, not at all:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511310576
Plus getting money out of politics is a fundamental difference. I difference that affects everything else. It's about the core of you belief about whether we have a govt of, by and for the people or we have a govt controlled by corporate interests.
And then there's the fact that she doesn't have any real core policy positions. She says whatever she needs to at any given time.
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Lucinda
(31,170 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts).
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)just in the ideas about how to achieve solutions.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)Especially on the money in politics issue which as I said, is fundamental to the core of our very democracy.
I still don't understand why you responded by saying you will keep listening to him.
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mikehiggins
(5,614 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)TDale313
(7,820 posts)Hillary's a shape shifter who will race back to the center-right (where she's always been most comfortable) the second she feels she's got the nomination sown up. I feel no confidence these are positions she'll spend one iota of political capital fighting for.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)iAZZZo
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jillan
(39,451 posts)iAZZZo
(358 posts)lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)Bad Thoughts
(2,514 posts)bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)jfern
(5,204 posts)Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)She is the one who should bow out. Since now even she can see that Bernie has the better policy positions.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)dchill
(38,453 posts)She lies.
cali
(114,904 posts)She. Is. Lying.
Impedimentus
(898 posts)You aren't likely to change anyone's mind about Sen. Sanders with this kind of puerile thread. Threads like this do have some amusement value, however.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)No.
jillan
(39,451 posts)Because she was for it before she was against it and if she is President, she will be for it again.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)think about voting for "Send em back" Hillary.
Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)How do you like it so far?
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)ecstatic
(32,653 posts)Not appealing at all!
cui bono
(19,926 posts)mmkay...
You see, adopting someone's words doesn't mean you have adopted their ethics and morals.
That being said, no, her positions are nowhere near Bernie's:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511310576
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californiabernin
(421 posts)First she was for it, but now she is insistent it will "never, ever, ever" happen. Even if she think it won't happen with the current Congress (true), couldn't she still speak to her conviction (if it is a conviction) that it would be the best system?
It's what she believed? What she believes?
merrily
(45,251 posts)for trustworthiness and honesty.
djean111
(14,255 posts)Anyone who believe she has moved even a millimeter to the left is a fool.
Not buying what she is peddling.
islandmkl
(5,275 posts)Cobalt Violet
(9,905 posts)So he needs to stay in the race!