Sun Feb 28, 2016, 02:02 PM
VulgarPoet (2,872 posts)
I would like to thank the Third Way.
For proving to me that the mantra of "By the people, for the people" where democracy is considered has had a tag hanging off its toe for the past sixteen years. For instance; I present the "most experienced democratic candidate"-- read as immense doubt placed on the first three quarters of that quote(which isn't even right, considering Bernie has more years in the senate than Clinton has as it is.) The Third Way is not about "by the people, for the people", it's about "from the people, to the corporations". I didn't enlist to fight for a bunch of coprophilic plutocrats. And that is what you want to deliver us to.
Foreign Policy Iraq http://www.huffingtonpost.com/miles-mogulescu/hillarys-pro-iraq-war-vot_b_9112232.html Syria http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/nov/19/hillary-clinton-isis-strategy-ground-troops-airstrikes-no-fly-zone-syria Libya http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/28/us/politics/hillary-clinton-libya.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=span-ab-top-region&_r=0 Saudi Arabia [y'know, the people who made ISIS's brand of Islam] http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2016/01/10/445291/US-Hillary-Clinton-Saudi-Arabia-/ Honduras http://www.salon.com/2015/06/08/exclusive_hillary_clinton_sold_out_honduras_lanny_davis_corporate_cash_and_the_real_story_about_the_death_of_a_latin_america_democracy/ Colombia http://www.ibtimes.com/hillary-clinton-pushes-colombia-free-trade-agreement-latest-email-dump-2326068 Social Policy TPP Support https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160129/23451533466/hillary-clinton-flip-flopped-tpp-before-so-big-business-lobbyists-are-confident-shell-really-flip-back-after-election.shtml Destruction of internet freedom http://www.salon.com/2011/12/09/hillary_clinton_and_internet_freedom/ Manhattan Project against encryption http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/12/hillary-clinton-wants-manhattan-like-project-to-break-encryption/ PATRIOT Act support https://ballotpedia.org/Hillary_Clinton Secure Fence Act https://ballotpedia.org/Hillary_Clinton H-1B Visa support This is the so called pre-ordained candidate for the Democratic Party. And when candidates like this are being fielded, an an Independent who is more democratic than the whole DNC put together has to come in and save the fuckin' party, the establishment has some serious soul searching to engage in, that is, if they still have souls to search.
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VulgarPoet | Feb 2016 | OP |
BillZBubb | Feb 2016 | #1 | |
UglyGreed | Feb 2016 | #2 | |
VulgarPoet | Feb 2016 | #4 | |
Bubzer | Feb 2016 | #22 | |
FangedNoumenom | Feb 2016 | #31 | |
Todays_Illusion | Feb 2016 | #3 | |
EndElectoral | Feb 2016 | #5 | |
FangedNoumenom | Feb 2016 | #34 | |
felix_numinous | Feb 2016 | #6 | |
VulgarPoet | Feb 2016 | #8 | |
Dragonfli | Feb 2016 | #13 | |
VulgarPoet | Feb 2016 | #16 | |
Dragonfli | Feb 2016 | #18 | |
highprincipleswork | Feb 2016 | #23 | |
Gregorian | Feb 2016 | #7 | |
VulgarPoet | Feb 2016 | #9 | |
Dragonfli | Feb 2016 | #15 | |
Impedimentus | Feb 2016 | #10 | |
VulgarPoet | Feb 2016 | #11 | |
Ferd Berfel | Feb 2016 | #14 | |
Samantha | Feb 2016 | #12 | |
MrMickeysMom | Feb 2016 | #17 | |
whereisjustice | Feb 2016 | #19 | |
davidthegnome | Feb 2016 | #20 | |
WhaTHellsgoingonhere | Feb 2016 | #21 | |
VulgarPoet | Feb 2016 | #42 | |
Kittycat | Feb 2016 | #63 | |
closeupready | Feb 2016 | #24 | |
TIME TO PANIC | Feb 2016 | #25 | |
WillyT | Feb 2016 | #26 | |
Uncle Joe | Feb 2016 | #27 | |
Jezza | Feb 2016 | #28 | |
kenn3d | Feb 2016 | #29 | |
VulgarPoet | Feb 2016 | #35 | |
Martin Eden | Feb 2016 | #30 | |
malletgirl02 | Feb 2016 | #32 | |
VulgarPoet | Feb 2016 | #36 | |
Martin Eden | Feb 2016 | #38 | |
VulgarPoet | Feb 2016 | #57 | |
Martin Eden | Feb 2016 | #66 | |
VulgarPoet | Feb 2016 | #67 | |
Martin Eden | Feb 2016 | #68 | |
erlewyne | Feb 2016 | #33 | |
JEB | Feb 2016 | #37 | |
Barack_America | Feb 2016 | #39 | |
VulgarPoet | Feb 2016 | #41 | |
amborin | Feb 2016 | #40 | |
Arazi | Feb 2016 | #43 | |
VulgarPoet | Feb 2016 | #44 | |
dchill | Feb 2016 | #45 | |
Orsino | Feb 2016 | #46 | |
Bad Dog | Feb 2016 | #47 | |
VulgarPoet | Feb 2016 | #48 | |
Bad Dog | Feb 2016 | #51 | |
Hiraeth | Feb 2016 | #49 | |
SoLeftIAmRight | Feb 2016 | #50 | |
VulgarPoet | Feb 2016 | #52 | |
SoLeftIAmRight | Feb 2016 | #53 | |
MaggieD | Feb 2016 | #54 | |
VulgarPoet | Feb 2016 | #56 | |
JonLeibowitz | Feb 2016 | #58 | |
MaggieD | Feb 2016 | #59 | |
polly7 | Feb 2016 | #61 | |
Kittycat | Feb 2016 | #64 | |
polly7 | Feb 2016 | #65 | |
bobthedrummer | Feb 2016 | #71 | |
berni_mccoy | Feb 2016 | #55 | |
polly7 | Feb 2016 | #60 | |
Betty Karlson | Feb 2016 | #62 | |
SoapBox | Feb 2016 | #69 | |
Gamecock Lefty | Feb 2016 | #70 | |
VulgarPoet | Mar 2016 | #72 |
Response to VulgarPoet (Original post)
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 02:03 PM
BillZBubb (10,650 posts)
1. Prepare to get blistered for telling the truth.
Response to BillZBubb (Reply #1)
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 02:05 PM
UglyGreed (7,661 posts)
2. Modus operandi
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Response to BillZBubb (Reply #1)
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 02:07 PM
VulgarPoet (2,872 posts)
4. They'll just take my ignore list thirty deep instead of twenty to be fair
but hey, what do I know. I'm a biracial millennial airman who to them, is on the wrong side by dint of every single bit of identity politics they can throw at me-- and that's not counting the ones that likely doubt who and what I am, but are thankfully too gracious to actually admit to it.
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Response to VulgarPoet (Reply #4)
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 03:03 PM
Bubzer (4,211 posts)
22. Isn't it ironic that some claiming to be dems are using identity politics against other dems?
It's exactly what I would expect from the GOP...and yet we're getting it from Hillary supporters.
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Response to BillZBubb (Reply #1)
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 04:06 PM
FangedNoumenom (145 posts)
31. They won't even read it. They avoid the truth like a vampire avoids sunlight. n/t
Response to VulgarPoet (Original post)
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 02:06 PM
Todays_Illusion (1,209 posts)
3. The entire MSM is telling Bernie Sanders supporters to give up and give in. Stay and fight!
I think there is this tremendous push because the Hillary support is crumbling. Keep fighting we can win.
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Response to VulgarPoet (Original post)
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 02:11 PM
EndElectoral (4,213 posts)
5. A drunk driver apologizes for killing people in a car crash. There is accountabilty.
HRC's vote for the Iraq Disaster led to the killing of a LOT of people needlessly. I accept her apology, but I hold her accountable in a vote Sanders voted NO for. How did he know and her not? There are congressmen and women who showed courage. She did not.
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Response to EndElectoral (Reply #5)
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 04:25 PM
FangedNoumenom (145 posts)
34. She voted yes because Iraq was a "business oppurtunity"
Response to VulgarPoet (Original post)
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 02:14 PM
felix_numinous (5,198 posts)
6. It's all blood money
of which Karma I do not want anything to do with.
edited to add: All of this has been done in our names, with American blood too. Being a super power has meant being ruled by these super predators, they are charming and know what to say to stay in power, but we have a responsibility to change our representation of ourselves and to the world. If we do not change this destructive course by election, I believe conditions could get worse here. People are tired of being lied to, robbed and abused by police. It has to change. |
Response to felix_numinous (Reply #6)
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 02:17 PM
VulgarPoet (2,872 posts)
8. That's a threefold ass-beating that I want nothing to do with as well.
All bad mojo concentrated in one place, and sooner or later, that's a debt we'll have to repay.
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Response to VulgarPoet (Reply #8)
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 02:42 PM
Dragonfli (10,622 posts)
13. "Threefold ass-beating" Makes me assume you have an acquaintance with
or have incorporated some of the teachings of Wicca as have I (Just as I have Incorporated Buddhism and Taoism) in my choice of wise things I choose to learn from.
The three fold karma kickback is straight from Wiccan Teachings. I may be agnostic, but I do believe in some of the teachings of the wise and ancient. Tell me (I am only curious and it wouldn't change my opinion of you no matter the answer), but is that a coincidence? Or should I be saying Blessed be and Merry meet at this point? |
Response to Dragonfli (Reply #13)
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 02:49 PM
VulgarPoet (2,872 posts)
16. I've been a Wiccan since I was seventeen
It's something I do my damnedest to go by nowadays, although without a coven, I've somewhat forgone some of the customary greetings in like company. Not many pagans of any flavor in my part of Virginia, from what I've seen thus far.
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Response to VulgarPoet (Reply #16)
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 02:53 PM
Dragonfli (10,622 posts)
18. Even tho you have forgone the customary greetings, Merry meet again! from one solitary practitioner
to another
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Response to Dragonfli (Reply #18)
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 03:04 PM
highprincipleswork (3,111 posts)
23. Bless you both, if you don't mind my saying so. Need much more soul on this site & throughout US.
Response to VulgarPoet (Original post)
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 02:16 PM
Gregorian (23,867 posts)
7. Can we call them republicans yet?
Response to Gregorian (Reply #7)
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 02:17 PM
VulgarPoet (2,872 posts)
9. That gets in the way of their trying to push labels instead of contents.
Response to Gregorian (Reply #7)
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 02:49 PM
Dragonfli (10,622 posts)
15. We could call them that if this were 1980, unfortunately the Republican infiltration is complete
So we have to call them whatever they register as even when they are OBVIOUSLY republican as such have been know for over 60 years now.
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Response to VulgarPoet (Original post)
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 02:19 PM
Impedimentus (898 posts)
10. Excellent post explaining exactly Hillary's policies and what she is !
Thank You !
Expect it to be ignored by all the Clinton ideologues. |
Response to Impedimentus (Reply #10)
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 02:21 PM
VulgarPoet (2,872 posts)
11. Or trying to paint things as right-wing smears when a Clinton ideologue said in an earlier thread
that we're not supposed to be shooting the messenger (in defense of a Clinton mouthpiece publication).
Or trying to paint this as all attacking and questioning as to why I can't lift Bernie up. Or trying to paint me as a right wing plant. Y'know, the usual. I'm used to it. |
Response to VulgarPoet (Reply #11)
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 02:46 PM
Ferd Berfel (3,687 posts)
14. This explains it..
The most depressing discovery about the brain, ever http://www.rawstory.com/2016/02/the-most-depressing-discovery-about-the-brain-ever/#.VtMdRZtVt0c.facebook ![]() |
Response to VulgarPoet (Original post)
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 02:25 PM
Samantha (9,314 posts)
12. Excellent thread, VulgarPoet
Thanks for posting this.
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Response to VulgarPoet (Original post)
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 02:50 PM
MrMickeysMom (20,453 posts)
17. You know.... That's a cogent thought...
the establishment has some serious soul searching to engage in, that is, if they still have souls to search. I honestly think they have no souls. Perhaps they fear a wind shift into a completely bold and evolutionary direction... All the things that their party was to have proven over time would happen before they sold out. |
Response to VulgarPoet (Original post)
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 02:56 PM
whereisjustice (2,941 posts)
19. Like General Motors, what's good for Hillary is good for country. We all know how that turned out...
another bailout for corporations who sent millions of jobs to Mexico, China and India.
You know, for the good of America. And Democrats. |
Response to VulgarPoet (Original post)
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 03:00 PM
davidthegnome (2,983 posts)
20. An enthusiastic K & R
Thank you for posting this. Looking at actual votes, actual policies, actual things the candidates have said and done... should be what determines who we ultimately vote for.
We can argue whether candidates have evolved, whether their opinions and stances on the issues have changed, we can argue why they did what they did, but what they actually did is precisely what we should be debating, because it's a good indicator of what they will DO in office. |
Response to VulgarPoet (Original post)
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 03:00 PM
WhaTHellsgoingonhere (5,252 posts)
21. But they're claiming to be Liberals and Progressives. How can you tell the difference?
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Response to WhaTHellsgoingonhere (Reply #21)
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 09:28 AM
VulgarPoet (2,872 posts)
42. Look in the direction their arrow points.
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Response to VulgarPoet (Original post)
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 03:16 PM
closeupready (29,503 posts)
24. I will not be voting for her.
Response to VulgarPoet (Original post)
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 03:21 PM
TIME TO PANIC (1,894 posts)
25. K & R!
Response to VulgarPoet (Original post)
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 03:39 PM
WillyT (72,631 posts)
26. HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!!
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Response to VulgarPoet (Original post)
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 03:44 PM
Uncle Joe (50,345 posts)
27. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, VulgarPoet.
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Response to VulgarPoet (Original post)
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 03:45 PM
Jezza (30 posts)
28. +27... hope everyone votes!
What many people don't know about Hilary, is that she used to be a hardcore Republican. She canvassed and campaigned for Republican Richard Nixon for President. She worked for Republican Barry Goldwater's campaign in 1964, and was even elected president of Wellesley College's Young Republicans club. (her freshman year) --- there is a history worth studying;
...in 1968, (her senior year) Clinton interned in Congress for Republican Representative Laird from Wisconsin; then flip-flopped to McGovern. who by the way ran one of the historically worst campaigns this century; not only that, but in 2008, McGovern endorsed Obama over Hillary Clinton, siting leadership and policy. ...and even since her college years, Hillary is become such a huge risk to oligarchy... cannot fathom electing such a puppet candidate who takes +$150M in campaign funding from Law Firms, Citicorp, Goldmansachs, DLA Piper, JP Morgan, Morgan Stanley and Monsanto. The choice is clear for 2016. Vote for a conservative Republican. Vote for Hillary Clinton. ...Bernie Sanders' time is 2016. it's time now for a progressive democratic socialist. His ideas are now needed more than ever. ...fact is, bernie's proposal to evolve medicare to a universal healthcare system that is far better than the current Affordablecare Act ...NAFTA (1993), WTO (1995), are huge examples of corporatists... in fact from the Democrats under Bill Clinton. and supported emphatically by Hillary. (Berni Sanders ALWAYS opposed) WTO - what the WTO was: a transnational, secret, autocratic system of control inimical to our democratic system of governing, which includes open courts. ---- on which, Hillary has never made a position |
Response to VulgarPoet (Original post)
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 03:59 PM
kenn3d (486 posts)
29. TY - Posted OP link to twitter
Kenn Threed @kenn3d now7 seconds ago
Hillary's rap sheet: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511364300 Third Way Government "from the people, to the corporations" #SuperTuesday #Sanders2016 #GOTV |
Response to VulgarPoet (Original post)
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 04:05 PM
Martin Eden (10,558 posts)
30. Hillary's foreign policy "creds" are the biggest reason I won't support her in a Dem primary.
K&R for a post with critically important information very relevant to this election!
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Response to Martin Eden (Reply #30)
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 04:10 PM
malletgirl02 (1,427 posts)
32. Me too
The same for me, Hilary's record of consistently supporting regime change was the main reason I can't vote for her. When I saw Bernie Sanders foreign policy chops on the PBS I became a Bernie Sanders supporter.
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Response to Martin Eden (Reply #30)
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 08:09 PM
VulgarPoet (2,872 posts)
36. Except every time this gets pointed out, it's slammed as "right wing smearing".
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Response to VulgarPoet (Reply #36)
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 10:51 PM
Martin Eden (10,558 posts)
38. Not every time. Check out this argument from a Hillary supporter:
Here's the link to the thread/post.
And here's the argument by BlueCaliDem justifying Hillary's IWR vote: She was Senator of New York State - the State hit by 9/11 the hardest. Do you think New Yorkers would've understood had she voted against the AUMF Against Terrorists and the AUMF Against Iraq when they believed that Saddam Hussein most likely had something to do with 9/11? Do you think they'd happily re-elect her? Or do you believe her political career would have ended? Think about it. |
Response to Martin Eden (Reply #38)
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 12:55 PM
VulgarPoet (2,872 posts)
57. So we're supposed to accept that Iraq was the retaliatory will of New York
when our assailants came from... Afghanistan?
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Response to VulgarPoet (Reply #57)
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 01:23 PM
Martin Eden (10,558 posts)
66. Yes, according to that argument from a Hillatry supporter ...
New Yorkers believed Saddam was behind 9/11 and Hillary was obliged to serve the wishes of her constituents (and not jeopardize her reelection) by taking vengeance against Iraq even though she knew they had been misled by a pack of lies.
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Response to Martin Eden (Reply #66)
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 01:25 PM
VulgarPoet (2,872 posts)
67. So pragmatism over idealism again
and never explaining to her constituents that it was indeed all a pack of lies? That'd have been the more honorable way out rather than scapegoating a country that had literally nothing to do with the attack on our soil. Saddam was many evil things, yes, but he neither harbored WMDs or al-Qaeda from anything that I've read on that situation; which makes him non-complicit in the attack.
Or do Hillary supporters believe in scapegoating anyone convenient for "interventions"? |
Response to VulgarPoet (Reply #67)
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 01:28 PM
Martin Eden (10,558 posts)
68. I doubt very many Hillary supporters would embrace the argument put forth by BlueCaliDem ...
... but anyone who does is unhinged, IMO.
I wouldn't even go so far as to call it "pragmatism" or even factually correct, as there were huge anti-war protests in New York before Shock and Awe was launched. |
Response to VulgarPoet (Original post)
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 04:13 PM
erlewyne (1,115 posts)
33. Super Thread !!!
Thanks millions VulgarPoet, I love this remark "an Independent who is more
democratic than the whole DNC put together" especially. For a week I have been trying to put those words in my mouth but couldn't spit them out. BERNIE SANDERS is more democratic than the whole DNC put together. |
Response to VulgarPoet (Original post)
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 08:54 PM
JEB (4,748 posts)
37. Double agent who's cover is blown.
Response to VulgarPoet (Original post)
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 10:57 PM
Barack_America (28,876 posts)
39. Fantastic thread.
There it is. Some folks around here might reconsider who (and what) they're "with".
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Response to Barack_America (Reply #39)
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 12:31 AM
VulgarPoet (2,872 posts)
41. Doubt it.
Like an above poster said, they avoid truth like vampires running from the sun.
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Response to VulgarPoet (Original post)
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 10:00 AM
Arazi (4,379 posts)
43. Thank you!!!!!
![]() Bravo!! Bookmarking this genius collection for future reference |
Response to Arazi (Reply #43)
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 10:07 AM
VulgarPoet (2,872 posts)
44. And I'm going to keep looking. Keep finding things to add.
There are myriad reasons to not support Hillary, and this is just a small sampling, imo...
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Response to VulgarPoet (Original post)
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 10:50 AM
Orsino (37,416 posts)
46. And yet these issues are largely missing from the primary discourse.
America don't give a fuck, it seems. Shrug and vote for the celebrity.
I'll vote for the first woman president, but my enthusiasm will otherwise be low. Nothing persuades me that when the glass ceiling finally crumbles, Clinton won't go on doing as she has done. |
Response to VulgarPoet (Original post)
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 12:14 PM
Bad Dog (2,025 posts)
47. I thought the 3rd way was about having a candidate.
That America's conservative electorate would actually vote for. This is a country that returned George W Bush twice! He couldn't win a council seat in the UK.
Even UKIP leader Farage, (famed swivel eyed loon,) thinks Trump is too extreme. Our Conservative prime minister is ideologically about the same as Barack Obama. Americans are on a whole very right wing. |
Response to Bad Dog (Reply #47)
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 12:28 PM
VulgarPoet (2,872 posts)
48. I'm slowly coming to this realization tbh
Even our mainstream leftism is right-wing, and one of my british friends keeps asking me why America's politics are as assbackwards as they are
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Response to VulgarPoet (Reply #48)
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 12:42 PM
Bad Dog (2,025 posts)
51. I'm sorry.
And I wish you well, but I think an imperialist attitude may be to blame. We didn't get the NHS until after WW2 when we'd pretty much lost the empire. Prior to that people were more interested in projecting British power around the World than social change at home.
Someone living in a shotgun shack with no health insurance and a hand to mouth existence can still find comfort in being a citizen of the greatest nation on Earth. America is certainly the most powerful, but where Fox and Co have succeeded is by conflating that success with low regulation and insufficient social provision. It's also why Trump perpetrates the myth of making America great again, as if Obamacare had somehow made you less great, and all his rhetoric is about winning, nothing else, nothing concrete, (apart from walls) just winning. |
Response to VulgarPoet (Original post)
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 12:32 PM
Hiraeth (4,805 posts)
49. Thank you for this OP. K&R
Response to VulgarPoet (Original post)
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 12:37 PM
SoLeftIAmRight (4,883 posts)
50. Facts Facts Facts
Is that all you got!
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Response to SoLeftIAmRight (Reply #50)
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 12:44 PM
VulgarPoet (2,872 posts)
52. I've got facts, vitriol, a notebook, a microphone, and a digital audio workstation
I can promise you that if Hillary or Trump take the White House, I'm becoming the next Zack De La Rocha.
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Response to VulgarPoet (Reply #52)
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 12:47 PM
SoLeftIAmRight (4,883 posts)
53. Sing those spicy words - VulgarPoet
be well
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Response to VulgarPoet (Original post)
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 12:49 PM
MaggieD (7,393 posts)
54. Yes, if you're not a socialist you're republican lite
Yeah, yeah, we know. Whatever. I'm a liberal capitalist. For real.
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Response to MaggieD (Reply #54)
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 12:52 PM
VulgarPoet (2,872 posts)
56. Well, you certainly don't get to claim the Democrat title
and still support illegal military intervention in a sovereign state 5 times over that has left said sovereign states destitute and barely functional. At least, not in the real world.
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Response to MaggieD (Reply #54)
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 12:55 PM
JonLeibowitz (6,282 posts)
58. No refutation of the many facts presented in this OP?
Response to JonLeibowitz (Reply #58)
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 12:58 PM
MaggieD (7,393 posts)
59. Oh please I don't even read this stuff anymore
Too much repetition, over dramatization and hyperbole. I, like many voters, have tuned it out by this point. Rant on. Nobody is listening anymore except the choir.
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Response to MaggieD (Reply #59)
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 01:11 PM
polly7 (20,582 posts)
61. ............... yeah, it's boring. Why bother your beautiful mind?
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Response to polly7 (Reply #61)
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 01:14 PM
Kittycat (10,493 posts)
64. This isn't happening on their private beach, why should they care? eom
Response to Kittycat (Reply #64)
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 01:16 PM
polly7 (20,582 posts)
65. True, it's brown people an ocean away. nt.
Response to polly7 (Reply #61)
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 02:03 PM
bobthedrummer (26,083 posts)
71. +1 K&R n/t
Response to VulgarPoet (Original post)
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 12:51 PM
berni_mccoy (22,183 posts)
55. No wonder Establishment Republicans are going to Vote Hillary over Trump
Response to VulgarPoet (Original post)
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 01:01 PM
polly7 (20,582 posts)
60. Saudi Arabia gave money to her Foundation.
She made weapons deals with them - weapons used to destroy Yemen, commit war crimes and kill thousands of innocents.
I believe every intervention she's been involved with has been all about money, imperialism and advancing the PNAC agenda. She not only learned from Iraq (after pushing for it to the public and the only one who ever absolutely associated Hussein with Al Qaeda), she used what she learned to push for the same in Libya and Syria. Resulting in IS, Boko Haram and even millions more human lives destroyed by death, homelessness and unimaginable loss. When I see the claim that she's been a 'champion for women and children around the world' I get a sick feeling in my stomach. |
Response to VulgarPoet (Original post)
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 01:12 PM
Betty Karlson (7,231 posts)
62. Third Way or the Highway!
Thanks for voicing what I have only resented but never so perfectly articulated.
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Response to VulgarPoet (Original post)
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 02:00 PM
Gamecock Lefty (674 posts)
70. You're Welcome, vulgarpoet!
Now maybe if you would coax some of those HUGE Bernie crowds out to vote like we're doing for Hillary, this might become more of a contest!!!
Suggestion: Offer them free Ben and Jerry's ice cream! |
Response to VulgarPoet (Original post)
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 09:58 AM
VulgarPoet (2,872 posts)