2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumName 3 strengths of Clinton and Sanders.
I'm curious what others feel are the three best strengths of Sanders & Clinton. Here's what I've come up with.
Clinton:
Experience as Senator from New York (with a liberal voting record) and Secretary of State.
Has spent her adult life fighting for women's reproductive rights and lowering the costs of health care.
Can take punches from the right and left and keeps swinging while remaining optimistic.
Sanders:
Experience as Mayor of Burlington and Senator from Vermont with a liberal voting record.
Has spent his adult life fighting for the underdogs.
Not afraid to take the less popular opinion and seems to choose wisely (opposed the Iraq War, advocated for expansion of Medicaid and single payer health care and accepted gay marriage) before it was politically expedient to do so.
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nxylas
(6,440 posts)1. Would break the glass ceiling if elected president.
2. Foreign policy experience due to her time as Secretary of State.
3. She's not Donald Trump.
Sanders
1. Appeal beyond the traditional Democratic voter base, to young voters and independents.
2. A fighter on behalf of the 99%.
3. A straight talker - what you see is what you get.
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)It's nice knowing someone else posted here.
Clinton:
I'm thinking...
Has suckered some people into believing she's competent.
Has suckered some people into believing she cares about the 99%. This is after all a person who collects 1/4 to 1/2 million dollars a speech to Wall Street but believes the minimum wage in some areas should be $12.
Has suckered some people into believing that electing an incompetent female would be an advance for women's rights instead of a setback.
Bernie:
Tells the truth.
Has worked for the 99% going back to being arrested in civil rights demonstrations when he was a young man.
Is on the correct side in all progressive policies out of commitment, not because he stuck his finger in the wind and thinks it will help him get elected.
Did I say Bernie tells the truth and Hillary is a liar? Hillary isn't even a good liar.
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)on the Sanders part.
nxylas
(6,440 posts)But I did struggle to come up with #3 for one of the candidates - can you tell?
greymouse
(872 posts)She seems to love her daughter, that's something. Otherwise, zero.
I can tell.
TCJ70
(4,387 posts)...it's a result of her potential election, but not necessarily a strength of her, personally. Otherwise, we agree, depending on which parts of her foreign policy you consider a strength...
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Clinton:
* Super smart and informed, unmatched in terms of foreign policy detail knowledge and wonkishness (although given her substantial brains, she really should acquaint herself more with technology and the pressing questions around things like encryption, which sadly NONE of our candidates really seemed to understand at the time of the debates)
* Determined.
* Has an excellent working knowledge of how DC operates, would not have much of a learning curve required, if any, upon taking office as POTUS.
Sanders:
* Committed to an ideological vision, an idea of economic fairness
* Has been consistently right on important issues regardless of whether the polls agree, which to my mind spells leadership - similar to your #3
* Has unimpeachable integrity
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)Thanks WD!
Hillary Clinton
1. a fighter for the .1% and infact their candidate - the good part is she's well funded by them.
2. A woman - so we can finally acknowledge women can have the job
3. Likable but I would not call her honest.
Bernie
1. a fighter for the 99%
2. Honest
3. Most likely to not sign the TPP and much other legislation that will be coming down the pipe.
global1
(25,169 posts)Hillary = Poor judgement
Bernie = Good judgement