Bernie Vows To Stay In It Until all 50 States Have Voted And On To The Convention.

[AtomicKitten]

Bernie Sanders Promises to Keep Pressing the Campaign
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/02/29/bernie-sanders-promises-to-keep-pressing-the-campaign/

BOSTON — Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont vowed on Monday night that no matter the outcome of the Super Tuesday races, his campaign would continue to rally voters against a political establishment that is largely backing his rival, Hillary Clinton.

Mr. Sanders, standing next to a chartered plane here, said he would “likely” win Vermont’s vote, and also felt good about his chances for winning the most delegates in Oklahoma, Minnesota, Colorado and Massachusetts. He also said he might take a large number of delegates in Texas.

“We started this campaign at 3 percent in the polls — 60 or 70 points behind Hillary Clinton,” Mr. Sanders said to more than a dozen reporters. “We have rallied millions of people who want to see a government that represents all of us and not just the billionaire class.”

Mr. Sanders added that he was dedicated to taking the fight for the Democratic nomination to the convention this summer.

“At the end of tomorrow, I think 15 states will have spoken,” Mr. Sanders said. “Last I heard, we have a lot more than 15 states in the United States of America. And I think it is more than appropriate to give all of those states and the people in those states a chance to vote for the candidate of their choice.'

Still, Mr. Sanders emphasized the importance of Tuesday’s votes and cast himself as going up against a Clinton machine powered by local officials in multiple states. Repeating a claim he made before elections in Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina, Mr. Sanders said he was confident he would do well if there is a large voter turnout and that he would struggle if not.

“Tomorrow all over the country, our campaign is taking on the political establishment,” Mr. Sanders said. “We’re taking on governors and senators and mayors who know how to get out the vote. They do that very well.”

Mr. Sanders went on to repeat criticisms of Mrs. Clinton’s ties to several industries and to cast himself as a candidate more interested in reforming campaign finance laws and dealing with income inequality. To make his point, Mr. Sanders referred to the director Adam McKay’s acceptance speech at the Academy Awards on Sunday after he won for the best adapted screenplay for “The Big Short,” a movie about the failure of the banking industry.

“As Adam McKay pointed out at the Oscars last night, if we want to have a government that is not controlled by billionaires, then we should not be voting for candidates who received substantial sums of money from the wealthy, from Wall Street, from the pharmaceutical industry and the fossil fuel industry,” Mr. Sanders said.

Mr. Sanders also said that while he respected Mrs. Clinton, he didn’t think “real change” comes from someone taking money from such industries and that instead, such change would come from millions of people demanding “a government that represents all of us and not just the 1 percent.”

[Major Hogwash]

1. This is going to be a long dragout fight for the soul of the Democratic party.

Will enough people wake up to the fact that Hillary is currently being investigated by the FBI, or will they live in denial until she is indicted?

[ejbr]

3. I choose B

Even supporters of hers that are political junkies are unfazed by how she often says one thing, but does another. I've seen at least 3 video compilations of her lies, but these supporters base their hopes on what she says she is going to do when both history and major donors indicate the opposite.

[pdsimdars]

7. She's just like Trump

All she says is empty talk just like Trump. He says he'll do a terriffic job and so does Hillary, empty. Just says her plan is better than the one Bernie put out. But she never actually puts out a plan

[ejbr]

11. Even if her

"Better " plan exists, should we trust her to pursue it?

[Tanuki]

38. If you really believe "she's just like Trump,"

do yourself a favor and educate yourself:

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/

[djean111]

57. I don't know that she is exactly "just like Trump" - but she has given me no reason to believe

that she would actually do or protect any of those things, if she gets into office. That's just a bunch of stuff she is told people want to hear. So they will vote for her. And that entire list is changeable, depending on polls and focus groups.

[pdsimdars]

68. You got her pegged just like I do. . . . . words are cheap

[BreakfastClub]

78. She voted the same as Sanders 93% of the time. There's your "proof." nt

[djean111]

80. It is the votes WHERE THEY DIFFER that count - like, say war. That particular dog don't hunt, as

they say. That particular meme is, well, deliberately misleading. At best. Sorry!

[Lizzie Poppet]

87. Exactly. Voting "liberal" on the issues her corporate masters don'g give a shit about...

...does not a progressive make. Hillary is probably, when all is said and done, a liberal (at least by the skewed-to-the-right scale that's valid in this outlier of a country). She's no progressive...and when there's a real progressive in the race, a centrist semi-liberal isn't acceptable.

And the problem with there being a progressive in the race now is that if he doesn't get the nod, nothing else is going to be good enough in November, either. Once you get a glimpse of what is possible, settling for the corporate-shill status quo just makes a progressive voter feel dirty.

[timmymoff]

121. She screwed the important ones up though

[DhhD]

88. Just like an empty Presidential Box on a ballot.

[cantbeserious]

4. This Revolt Has Been Building For Years - The DWS, DNC, DLC, Third-Way Has Only Themselves To Blame

eom

[mwooldri]

20. Third Way = Tony Blair.

And you know where he went with GWB....

[Trust Buster]

17. I think everyone has the right to due process. I didn't know you were judge, jury and executioner.

[TrueDemVA]

2. Out to my polling place now

My wife and I are all in for Bernie. Easiest vote of our lives.

[Cobalt Violet]

5. Good, I'm sick of Hillary saying Fuck You to us.

Her refusal to release the transcripts is like saying fuck you to those us who consider it's important.

Fuck you right back at you Hillary.

[AtomicKitten]

108. x 100000

[pdsimdars]

6. You go Bernie

Someone has to stand up and keep fighting for real Americans and not just corporate America.

[FreedomRain]

8. stay in

I posted this a couple days ago as a reply to a question in an earlier thread. It definitely should be here:

Going all the way to the convention is smart even if the loss is a foregone conclusion, for many reasons. Here are some (one is even good for Hillary):

- Influence on Party platform statements.

- Insurance in case of some political or personal disaster to the front runner, at least we will have a nominee ready to go.

- Airtime for the candidate or cause for future and down-ticket contests.

- Airtime for the front runner of the party that they wouldn't have otherwise; having a foil would give the media a reason to give the frontrunner another chance to reach undecideds.

- Using up campaign donations in the manner best fitted to fulfill the implied contract with--and the intentions of--the donors.


Now let us hope for an upset today that makes all this speculation worthless!

[The Traveler]

10. Super Tuesday is not the end game

Keep talking. Keep gathering people to the cause. Sure, the odds are against us ... but this thing ain't over. We shouldn't give up just before the breakthrough.

Trav

[FreedomRain]

12. truly

some more favorable contests coming up too.

I just dropped my Arizona early ballot in yesterday. I think he will beat the spread here.

[Logical]

94. True! Nt

[The Traveler]

9. This revolution is far from over

Sanders is probably not going to win but ... he has started something. And even if he loses the nomination, he can help us continue to build it.

We face the perfect storm of money, media, and the "soft corruption" of politics. This is not going to be easy. We weren't going to win this revolution with Bernie's election. We aren't going to lose this revolution with his loss. We have a long struggle ahead of us.

But we have good companions in this fight. And there are worse ways to spend yer time, eh?

See ya on the front lines, mates.

Trav

[Locrian]

18. ^^yes

Sanders has shown millions of people that they are not alone

[Proud Liberal Dem]

48. I thought Obama started something too in 2008?

Where did everybody who supported him go after he was elected?

[djean111]

62. Where did Obama go, after he was elected? He appointed Third Way people, he did not "put on

his comfortable shoes", he put Chained CPI on the table, he is intent on the corporate trade coups, he even had Jamie Fucking Dimon shooting his presidential cuff-links and whipping votes for him. Why is it that some expect a politician to be able to say one thing, do quite another thing, and have the people who voted for him act like besotted Tiger Beat readers, and be enthusiastic about everything he does? It does not work that way. Hell, he even said to "put his feet to the fire" - and any breath of criticism is met with sharp rebuke.

[islandmkl]

75. I missed the list of various union officials who had input on the TPP...

HBO, while campaigning, said labor would have a part in all trade negotiations...'said' being the operative word...

[Proud Liberal Dem]

79. What are the Sanders "revolutionaries" going to do

the minute that Bernie fails to deliver on a promise, comes up with a bad policy/strategy, has to "compromise" with Republicans, and/or fails to show up with his "comfortable shoes" to walk a picket line (because, you know, Presidents are pretty busy with a country/world to run)? Whether or not Obama turned out to be the perfect Progressive POTUS, there is so much more that progressive activists could have been doing the past 8 years at the state, local, and congressional level to ensure more progressive policies and improved quality of life for more people (i.e. voting, GOTV). President Obama got TWO years with a Democratic majority to do stuff and only a matter of months when he didn't have to worry about Republicans filibustering stuff to death. The rest of his Presidency, he has had to cut deals with massive Republican obstructionists and wrecking balls in the House (and now the Senate) just to keep the federal government semi-functional.

[djean111]

82. The Sanders "revolutionaries" are not a cult, and they do not expect perfection, and

they are well aware of the obstruction. They just feel that Hillary will be only to happy to work WITH the GOP to accomplish the Third Way PNAC TPP to-do list. it is the betrayal that they will not vote for.

[islandmkl]

84. I don't quite see where, in my specific example, 'failing to deliver on a promise' as if it was...

something that he had to have some Congressional compliance to accomplish...I also missed the part where he publicly defended that particular promise as something that he was prevented from honoring, so to speak...

[DhhD]

91. On a hunt for what happened to his Progressive Campaign promises? The he told us not to look any

further, that he was really a New Democrat.

[timmymoff]

122. Well the establishment started the coronation process for Madame Wall St. in 2016

[Chasstev365]

13. GOOD! Because when new Clinton scandals emerge

We will see the DNC struggling to name an alternate to Bernie Sanders, illuminating what a farce this whole process has become.

[GreenPartyVoter]

101. I agree. He needs to stay in to the end.

[AtomicKitten]

106. Agreed. An indictment may be coming down the pike.

[randome]

14. Then History will regard him as just another Ralph Nader.

There should be a point where he realizes he's not being helpful.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]All things in moderation, including moderation.[/center][/font][hr]

[auntpurl]

16. As a Hillary supporter, I think this is unfair, and untrue

Nader ran as a 3rd party in the GE. Bernie, quite correctly, joined the Democratic party just so he would NOT be a spoiler in that way.

Also, I think it IS helpful to have a long, diverse, rich primary process. The more voters feel their voices have been heard in the primary, the more will come out in November. If Hillary is the candidate most Democrats want (and I believe and hope she will be), then a long primary process won't hurt her.

Disenfranchising people and dismissing their candidate is not the way to win votes in the general.

[randome]

30. But it depends, doesn't it, on whether he trash-talks our likely candidate or not.

He hasn't strayed far from the issues, I'll give him that, but if he does then it won't be much different from the GOP candidates trashing one another.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]All things in moderation, including moderation.[/center][/font][hr]

[auntpurl]

34. But as neither candidate has engaged in trash-talking the other,

I think the calls for Bernie to remove himself from the race are premature.

[renate]

117. you're nice

Thank you!

[cherokeeprogressive]

46. First Nader, then the GOP. Your goal post get good gas mileage does it?

[yardwork]

116. I agree.

[Logical]

52. Lol, calling out hillary BS daily is being helpful! Nt

[morningfog]

70. Why do you hate democracy?

[randome]

76. Because of an unhappy childhood?

[hr][font color="blue"][center]"If you're bored then you're boring." -Harvey Danger[/center][/font][hr]

[yardwork]

115. Nader ran a third party campaign in the GE.

Bernie Sanders is not harming us by staying in the primaries, as long as he runs a clean campaign, which he's done so far.

[timmymoff]

123. There's a point when her supporters should begin realizing her policies aren't helpful.

[Cryptoad]

15. no matter how much Harm he does the Progressive Cause,,,,,,,,

Bern: setting the Progressive Cause back 50 years!

[coyote]

39. He just brought it forward 50 years by forcing Hillary to go more left.

[kenfrequed]

45. Oh yeah....

Putting the following issues on the table on a national scale in a big public way:

Disparity of wealth
Free education
The Tobin Tax
A 15 dollar an hour minimum wage
Opposition to fracking
the TPP
Excessive war
the Keystone Pipeline
For profit prisons


and much, much more.


Win or not, Sanders has changed this race and maybe has changed the Democratic party. Other people running for office in the future are going to take note of how he got so big in the future. Had he not run, Secretary Clinton would probably not have brought any of these issues up and would have played a safe nebulous campaign.

[casperthegm]

61. This

And it's SO true that Sanders has really changed things. I know he has for me. It's kind of like the frog put in a pot slowly brought to a boil (gross analogy, but it fits). I just found myself growing accustomed to the status quo side of the Democratic party, ignoring the influences of Wall Street and remaining ignorant to the poor decisions that Clinton has made over the years.

Well, my eyes are open now and I'm never going back to settling. As much as my views align with democrats, I will never sell my soul for a party whose candidates sells their sous to Wall Street. I'm voting for the candidate, not the party. I'm no longer going to be a member of the herd, following blindly.

[Tanuki]

69. "I'm no longer going to be a member of the herd, following blindly." You don't realize it yet,

but all you have done was join a different herd going in a different direction. It's still a herd mentality. I think there will be fractious infighting in the "movement" once your coalescing figurehead is off the stage.

[casperthegm]

73. Nope

I'm not following any particular movement is what I'm trying to say. Yes, I'm progressive and you could say I'm following the progressive movement but what I'm really doing is looking closer at the individual candidate for their history and authenticity. That should always trump the herd mentality and whole "allegiance" load of crap. I'm not sure why it took me so long to come to this conclusion, but I know I have Bernie to thank for showing me how it could be and how it should be.

[Tanuki]

74. It's always good to pay close attention to what is going on. It behooves all of us to do so.

I think that most of us are honestly trying to go in the same direction and accomplish similar goals.

[DhhD]

92. Nope number 2: the 2016 voting booth.

[kenfrequed]

110. Even if we don't win

We Sandernistas need to start taking over the apparatus of the party on every level and in every state.

We can no longer afford corporate sponsored candidates that will sell us out at the first possibility.

Our finance laws need to be changed.

We could form a serious block within the Democratic party. The Bernie Democrats or whatever.

Also WolfPAC! We need a constitutional amendment about money in politics!

[Logical]

53. Lol, hillary needs her BS called out daily! Bernie is the guy to do it. Nt

[dana_b]

125. yes, not wanting people to vote and not going through the entire

democratic process is SOOO progressive!

Let's face it, you guys are just scared that he will actually pull it off. Too bad!! We are in it until the very end.

[Trust Buster]

19. Not surprising. I think Sanders is a selfish man.

He knows that, with the political polarization nationwide and paralysis in Congress, that the conditions are not ripe for a political revolution. His timing was prompted by his own personal age and not conditions on the ground signaling potential success. So, I'm not surprised that he would go the selfish route and refuse to allow the Party to coalesce around a nominee. Narcissists are selfish by definition IMO.

[The Traveler]

22. I think you are daft.

Sanders is so selfish he has never charged 250K for a speaking engagement. Or otherwise made tens of millions while in office. (Check the Senate Majority leader's financial success while in office ... but Mitch is just typical.)

This is so obviously excrement from a malnourished bull I won't comment on it further except to note I think you have taken complete leave of your senses.

Trav

[BeanMusical]

27. +1

[Enthusiast]

33. Yooge plus one!

[Trust Buster]

35. Your unnecessary insults aside, selfishness doesn't have to be financial in nature.

When Theodore Roosevelt, a Republican, embarked on busting the Trusts, he worked closely with the Progressive magazines of the time. Roosevelt understood that he needed to convince a sigificant portion of the Democratic base to pressure THEIR representatives to defy the special interests that had such a strong hold on Congress.

Can you imagine the response if President Sanders asked the Right wing opinion outlets of his day to help him convince the Republican base to pressure their representatives to defy the special interests on behalf of Medicare for all ? This is the same base that cheered their representatives on as they voted 62 times to repeal the ACA, a program involving much less government intervention.

Call me all the cute names you wish but, Bernie knows that the conditions for a successful revolution are not present today. Bernie is 74 years of age. Conditions are ripe for him.

[kenfrequed]

47. The level of absurdity in your argument.

Is it selfish to favor a 15 dollar an hour minimum wage, to desire free healthcare for all, to desire education for all, to favor people over corporations or banks?

Is there anything you wouldn't say just to besmirch a public figure that has spent almost his entire public career helping people?

[Trust Buster]

50. No it isn't selfish to want those things and I didn't say they were.

Do you disagree with my historical analysis of Theodore Roosevelt's efforts to break the Trusts ? If so, why ?

[kenfrequed]

59. Change doesn't happen by itself.

Nor is there such a thing as historical inevitability. Believing that there is a "right time" for the left to move the political meter back is akin to tell progressives that they should just wait around. That kind of talk actually doesn't get anything done.

Go sell crazy and historical ignorance somewhere else.

[Trust Buster]

60. Do you believe that the necessary support that we would need from the Republican base

to pressure Congress to defy special interests exists today ?

[islandmkl]

77. a lot of people meet their demise long before 'tomorrow' comes...

yeah...it's pretty selfish to encourage people to throw off the yoke they are bearing...

hey kids, let's just wait another 10 or 20 years...it's not so bad once you get used to it...

enablers are the worst....bench warmers cheering on the starters, not realizing they will never get in the game...because they are not even really remotely in the game...

'put me in coach'....yeah, well make a billion and we'll let you suit up...'

[Trust Buster]

83. You ignored my question. I'll ask it again.

Do you believe that Bernie has the requisite support from the Republican base that will be necessary to defeat the special interest's grip on our Congress regarding his policy proposals ?

[islandmkl]

89. i don't think that (R) is the base that will actually be involved...

they are complicit in the problem...the base is the American people...and no, it won't be easy, won't be simple, won't be painless...but if you think things are going to change because of any single leader then you don't know history...

there is a lot of FDR history to read...and see where his leverage came from...he welcomed the opposition and pointed them out TO THE PUBLIC often...

screw Congress...they will only change when forced to, never of their own volition...never have, never needed to...

[timmymoff]

124. When did we start caring about what the republicans think?

This is why we lose. We have to many people trying to get along and asking them to work with us, when in fact we should be demanding all of congress work with us. It isn't just the republicans who will sell our asses out, as seen by a certain family hoping to be a dynasty. Our own have sold us out terribly and not being able to admit it is bordering on some sickness. Thanking someone for putting it to you because they have a D behind their name is the very recipe for disaster we have endured for too long. Asking should be over but we basically have one group who is happy for the moon pounding they receive, even if they oppose it. All in the name of victory. I'm not into that. I would rather struggle fighting for a cause than kill lifelong democratic principles for some big business sponsored nonsense. If you want to continually ask for second helpings of the shit sandwiches they have been serving for 30 years than please vote Hillary.

[jeff47]

99. You have got to be kidding me.

Your argument is we can not try to change anything until the Republicans allow us?

How weak and pathetic.

[FlaGranny]

23. That's rather insulting

to me, a 75 year old woman, lifelong Democrat, who is sick of a lifetime of corporate America and I'm certainly not alone, considering Bernie's 40 million dollars in February, all from people like me. I can't understand "progressives" or even "liberals" who wouldn't feel insulted by your statement. We are sick of promises, lies, and the dismissal by the "establishment." We feel what Bernie feels. Is that selfish? We want our voices heard and the only way is for someone like Bernie to speak for us. So be it, if that is selfish of him OR us.

Edit: Our voices are being heard, though. In case you haven't noticed, Hillary is sounding more and more like Bernie - at least in public where she can be heard by everyone.

[The Traveler]

28. With ya, FlaGranny

You know what's funny? Back in June, I decided I preferred Sanders to Clinton but would be able to vote for her easily. Her supporters and her campaign have pretty much changed my mind on that. I may have to ... we can't let a Rethuglican near the missile codes. If Clinton is the nominee, and Georgia is in play, I'll have to vote for her. But if Clinton is the nominee and Georgia is clearly going red, I might well do something else. Like invest in the Green Party. Or something I dunno. Cross that bridge when I get to it.

Because the Clinton supporters (much more than Ms Clinton herself) really have me wondering if I should be here. They don't seem to mind the soft corruption of contemporary politics. I do.

Trav

[Trust Buster]

40. I, too, mind the corruption. Please read my further explanation in post #35.

[jeff47]

97. Georgia won't be in play.

Georgia last voted for a Democrat in 1992.
http://www.270towin.com/states/Georgia

If Clinton couldn't get it in 1996, and Obama couldn't get it in either 2008 or 2012, Clinton will not get it in 2016.

[Trust Buster]

36. I did not call your passions selfish. I was referring to Bernie himself.

Please read post #35 for a further explanation of my thinking.

[FlaGranny]

41. I know you were.

But, understand, we ARE Bernie. If he is selfish, we are too. We believe he is running for President for the same reason we want him to run.

[Trust Buster]

44. Neither Roosevelt, Teddy or Franklin, could have achieved their success against special interests

unless the were able to convince a significant portion of the opposition party's base into joining him. Those conditions are not ripe at this time. That's why I suggest that Bernie's 74 years was the more important determinant with regards to his timing.

[islandmkl]

81. a little simplistic history...FDR's convincing was along the lines of LBJ's...

more arm-twisting/throat-squeezing than compromising...

[Trust Buster]

85. What would compel the Republican Party to go along with Bernie's proposals in your opinion ?

[islandmkl]

90. you are looking for an answer within your own question...and i submit that your question

is not addressing the situation...

failure is always a possibility, NOT TRYING guarantees failure...

screw the Republicans...why would they help anyone who wants to change things...hell, most of the Democrats in DC are sharing the same trough and they sure as hell don't want to give up the gravy train, either...

i would say hit them over the head publicly WEEKLY like FDR had to do with his Fireside Chats...if the people don't want to voice their desire to have things change, then so be it...

but really...waiting on the Republicans to work with BS or HRC?....how'd that work for HBO?

[Logical]

54. No, he knows hillary is not a good dem, he needs to keep her honest! Nt

[alarimer]

66. Really? There are millions who won't get to vote for weeks yet.

You want Democratic turnout to be higher, let Bernie stay in the race.
It's not selfish to not want the deal to be done. I don't get to vote until April.

[dana_b]

126. well I think NOT wanting to go through the entire democratic process is selfish

maybe YOU got to vote but I sure haven't and I am going to vote!

You could not be more wrong about Bernie. He wants what many, MANY people think is the best thing for our country. THAT is democracy in action.

What you see as narcissism, I see as giving of himself. If it weren't for him, I wouldn't even be voting this primary season.

[JaneyVee]

21. Ridiculous and selfish.

[The Traveler]

24. I the propagandists have received the memo of the day. n/t

[Logical]

55. I agree, hillary is. Nt

[morningfog]

71. A la Hillary 08 right?

[AtomicKitten]

105. HRC: "I'm staying in... Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June."

[whatchamacallit]

112. Right, because we know JaneyVee would be urging Hillary to pack it in if the situation was reversed

[BeanMusical]

25. Kick and R

[Sancho]

26. I hope so.

It's very important to Hillary's campaign that the Democrats get media coverage and GOTV. The best thing for her GE would be to have an exciting primary and win after generating some excitement. It's also important to get in the debate practice, organize the troops, and figure out a platform appropriate for the DNC.

As such, Bernie provides a really good sparring partner to get ready for the fight.

[Helen Borg]

29. He's a serious candidate.

Not like all those Republican clowns.

[Trust Buster]

43. I agree, he is a serious candidate. But timing is just as important as seriousness.

[PonyUp]

51. If not now, when? n/t

[Trust Buster]

58. Please read post #35.

Neither Teddy or Franklin Roosevelt could have reached success with a significant portion of the opposition party's base joining in. Do you really think that kind of support for our proposals exists in today's Republican base ?

[jeff47]

98. Later. Always later. We have to wait for Republicans to allow us to discuss these issues. (nt)

[Freddie Stubbs]

31. Jeb Bush says people who think he's dropping out of the race have 'no clue'

Jeb Bush is keeping mum on rumors that he plans to drop out of Republican presidential race if he doesn't have a strong showing in Saturday's South Carolina primary.

"My campaign is doing great," he said Saturday morning in South Carolina. The former governor of Florida said he plans to "work as hard as I can till 7 p.m.," and refuses to "feed the speculation of people who have no clue about my campaign."

more: http://theweek.com/speedreads/607232/jeb-bush-says-people-who-think-hes-dropping-race-have-no-clue

[morningfog]

72. Apples and straw men.

[John Poet]

103. Jeb was out of money, that's why he had to quit.

Bernie is ROLLING in money.

[ibegurpard]

119. lol

Jeb didn't even come close to winning a single state.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

32. I think the importance of today is more about momentum.

SC did a number on that momentum, but today is a chance to show that SC is even more atypical of a state than New Hampshire was in terms of voter makeup compared to the rest of the country.

[Octafish]

37. Excellent Idea

Democracy.

[auntpurl]

42. Agreed! Let the people decide!

I hope (and believe) it will be Hillary, but I am proud to vote for either of our fine candidates in November, especially compared to whatever's just crawled out of the swamp that the Repubs nominate.

[bigwillq]

49. I hope so.

Every vote should count

[alcibiades_mystery]

56. I agree that we should see how each state plays out

We need a very clear image of the electoral chances of the Sanders platform, and that can only come through a thorough testing at the hands of the voters in all the regions of the country. Both Sanders and Clinton people are owed nation-wide results of actual primaries and caucuses.

The question is, can they (either group) live with them?

[alarimer]

63. Good. The primary system is unfair to later states.

I think all primaries/caucuses should be held on the same day. I'm glad Bernie said this, though. Our primary isn't until April. If the coronation has already been held, it would depress turnout for all the other races on the ballot.

[kgnu_fan]

64. Honest Bernie, I support you

[LWolf]

65. That means I get to vote in my primary.

I like being able to use my voice that way.

[jeff47]

100. You selfish bastard!!!

According to a lot of posters up-thread.

How DARE you think you should have a vote!! You have to just fall in line right now!!!!

[LWolf]

114. Aren't I, though?

Imagine me thinking my vote was as important as anyone else's.

Well, they sure showed me.

[UglyGreed]

67. K/R

[revbones]

86. At the very least it would give protection if she's indicted

during the primary. Otherwise, it may come during the general.

[MaggieD]

93. Well he can stay in, but...

He's not going to win. At some point (like after he loses today, and on March 15th) he's going to look foolish. But whatever.

[FlaGranny]

102. How do you figure

he'll look foolish? Is it foolish to run a progressive campaign? If it is I guess I'm living in the wrong time or maybe the wrong country. If he does nothing else, he's making Hillary sound more progressive than she wants to sound (or be).

Nothing is worse than never to have tried. That's where the foolishness lies and that's my major disappointment with Obama - he started negotiations from the middle, where most people would have liked the negotiations to finish, not start.

[amborin]

95. K&R

[Faux pas]

96. Kicketty Kickin'

[John Poet]

104. Bernie will stay in!

GOOD!

[Arazi]

107. Yay!!! Donating again to keep the train rolling!

[Hell Hath No Fury]

109. Exactly what I wanted to hear! :)

And I will be there every step of the way with you, Senator Sanders.

[magical thyme]

111. I'll be kicking in again tomorrow. Keep it rolling! nt

[AzDar]

113. There is NO WAY the Corrupt Clintons should EVER be in positions of power again...

Bernie is the Anti-Clinton...

[Kittycat]

118. K&R and Bookmarking. Thank you.

[quantumjunkie]

120. K&R

[creeksneakers2]

127. If a candidate is mathematically prevented

from winning a majority of the pledged delegates, I'm fine with them staying in but at that point he or she should spend half their time attacking Republicans and keep to issues that won't tend to damage the nominee in the general.

[liberal_at_heart]

128. This is part of the reason why both parties are dying. 40% of Americans

are Independents and don't really care if discussing policy differences hurt the party. Americans want to know how each candidate will handle different policy issues whether or not it hurts the party or not.

[creeksneakers2]

129. Policy is a legitimate thing to discuss

always.

[Hiraeth]

130. Run Bernie Run !! All the way, hey hey whadaya say !!

[Uncle Joe]

131. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, AtomicKitten.