Hey Bernie Supporters: We've been referred to by Hillary supporters as VANQUISHED FOES.

[berni_mccoy]

No shit, a Hillary supporter referred to us this way, with pity, so at least there's that .

This goes directly to my point yesterday. Hillary has bread it into her supporters that we are the enemy.

Let's be clear. Bernie Did the DNC a HUGE FAVOR by running as a democrat. He has been more true to the party than most establishment Dems and he's been more true to the liberal cause than any Dem.

How is he treated in kind by the DNC and Hillary? Like dog shit. And that's how they view the rest of us. They consider us "vanquished foes", but what they don't realize is the real foe is building momentum to defeat any dem come the general election. And if they don't re-think how they look at the people the party is supposed to represent, then there truly is no hope for victory in November.

I fear that may be the case unless Bernie can overcome the greatest obstacles put in place by those who should be his friends, as he has been the truest friend to them.

[BreakfastClub]

1. Meanwhile Hillary has raised $18 million for the DNC, and Bernie has raised $0. nt

[berni_mccoy]

2. Thanks for piling on the representative horse-shit that's been spewed our way.

We all know that the money Hillary raised for the DNC has gone right back into her campaign coffers.

[Lorien]

24. So true. Hillary never does anything

that doesn't serve Hillary.

[Hortensis]

33. Calm down. So someone said that. Bernie will be

in it to the convention, and on beyond. That's the common thought on Hillary's side.

[Trajan]

45. I see you are from the deep south

That would explain your conservative sentiments, and your support of a nominal democrat who is more of a moderate republican ...

Gone

[Hortensis]

48. From West Hollywood to the Deep South.

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She's not liberal enough for me, but she's liberal, extremely competent, and has a long list of exciting goals we really need achieved.

Overall, I am not at all unhappy today, I confess. Go, Democrats!

[noiretextatique]

142. Do you think she is a fiscal liberal?

She is liberal on social issues.

[Hortensis]

147. I think she is generally moderatelly liberal on fiscal issues and

strongly liberal on most social issues but tempered by her Methodist religion on others.

[noiretextatique]

148. Thanks!

I think she is more center-right on fiscal and military issues.

[Hortensis]

150. Sure. I'm guessing you'd prefer her to be

farther left also. Just a notion I got.

[noiretextatique]

151. Guilty as charged

[George II]

54. You don't understand how the DNC funds down-ticket Democratic candidates.

[kristopher]

62. Such as with non-existent voter registration drives?

[cui bono]

139. By refusing to endorse them and campaigning with their Republican opponents.

In 2008 Debbie Wasserman Schultz refused to endorse these 3 Democrats
who had won their Primaries and had a chance to win Republican seats:

Miami-Dade Democratic Party Chair Joe Garcia

Former Hialeah Democratic Mayor Raul Martinez

Democratic businesswoman Annette Taddeo

All three had won their local Democratic Primaries, and were challenging Hard Core Republican incumbents with whom Wasserman-Schultz had become cozy.
Not only did the head of the DCCC Red to Blue Program REFUSE to endorse these Democratic challengers,
but she appeared in person at at least one (possibly more) Campaign/Fundraiser for their Republican opponents.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251911615

[EndElectoral]

3. Why should he raise a nickel for the DNC after they've tried to thwart him at every turn?

[randome]

8. Why should he be working for the DNC if they are trying to thwart him?

[hr][font color="blue"][center]"If you're bored then you're boring." -Harvey Danger[/center][/font][hr]

[BlueMTexpat]

4. This $$$ all goes to

down-ticket Dems. Hillary is in it for everyone. She is an excellent team player.

Thanks for mentioning.

To get ANYTHING done in DC takes a team effort, no matter how appealing any one individual may seem,

[SwampG8r]

11. Actually no it doesn't

It gets kicked back to hillary
Why would sanders raise money the states will give to the dnc to give to hillary?

[BlueMTexpat]

34. I don't believe that you

understand how the process actually works in the way you think you do. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/10/25/1439115/-Hillary-Clinton-s-Campaign-Sharing-Data-Funds-with-State-Parties

[berni_mccoy]

13. That's not where the money goes, and if you believe that, you're being fooled

How the DNC buys off super delegates (I.e. Lobbyists) for Clinton:
http://observer.com/2016/02/how-the-dnc-helps-clinton-buy-off-superdelegates/

DNC rolls back donation I rules to allow lobbyists to donate to Clinton:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/dnc-allowing-donations-from-federal-lobbyists-and-pacs/2016/02/12/22b1c38c-d196-11e5-88cd-753e80cd29ad_story.html

DNC Funnelling Money to Clinton Campaign:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511277476

[Loudestlib]

47. +1

Hillary loves pay for play.

Hillary Clinton under fire after Boeing gave her foundation $900,000 weeks after she made 'shameless pitch' for company to a Russian airline

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2615877/Boeing-slammed-shareholder-meeting-using-Clinton-Foundation-donation-buy-Hillarys-commercial-advocacy-Russia.html#ixzz41fHWDo6Z
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

[loyalsister]

18. And she pulls up the ladder behind her

Depressed turnout means down ticket Dems lose.

[BlueMTexpat]

28. Please cite some actual

evidence of pulling up the ladder behind her that Hillary has done instead of simply making a cheap snark.

If anything, Hillary has helped vulnerable people all her life and she absolutely understands the importance of having good Dems to support a Democratic agenda against the horror of a GOPer agenda.

If you really believe that there will be "depressed turnout" at the thought of - finally - electing the first woman president of the US (who happens also to be the most qualified candidate in every other way as well), then you really do have your head in the sand.

[TheFarS1de]

35. Hillary has helped vulnerable people all her life ....

Yes she has . All those vulnerable Wall street CEO's who should have faced prison , they were certainly looked after . And Keystone , it was vulnerable to environmentalists , but she looked out for them . I could go on and on and on with all those she has helped , just a shame she can't extend the same commitment to the voters as opposed to the financial contributors .

[loyalsister]

42. I'm talking about the candidates who will lose

as well as the people who rely on their representation. Her candidacy will depress turnout because a significant number of people, both the lefties who want to see change and independents, will not vote at all.

As far as helping vulnerable people, the children of parents who have been incarcerated, especially poor families who lost income when a provider went to prison might disagree. Especially when welfare reform and permanent prohiition from other assistance made it worse. Those are just the USAers.

There are probably a number of people in war ravaged countries in the ME and South American might also find the suggesstion laughable (assuming they are alive).

[BlueMTexpat]

50. We'll simply have to agree to disagree

about this.

Hillary didn't vote for the Crime Reform Bill. She wasn't even in Congress at the time. Berne was and did. http://thefederalist.com/2015/11/03/bernie-sanders-voted-for-criminal-justice-measures-hes-denouncing/ Yet Hillary is the one who is blamed. Go figure!

The majority of those in in war-ravaged countries certainly do not think of Hillary first in connection with their situations. There is a VERY long line for that and both Bushes, Cheney, Reagan and all their GOPer cohorts and enablers, along with LOTS of other Dems, including Bernie, He opposed the IWR, but supported other measures related to war in the ME and elsewhere. Yet again, it is Hillary who is singled out.

If anything, Hillary gets impressive ratings globally. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/29/hillary-clinton-president-world_n_7453184.html and has done a lot for ME peace. http://correctrecord.org/secretary-clinton-working-for-middle-east-peace/

Consistency is a bitch indeed.

[loyalsister]

90. The promoter vs. legislative vote talking point

The unashamed promoter used her power as FLOTUS to help push it to the floor for a vote, then tries to duck responsibility for her racist push to get it there..... because Bernie voted for it. He has explained that he could only vote in favor of the VAWA if he also voted for what he objected to.

No one knows if he would have had to make that choice if not for the Clinton team's whipping and media campaign.

She also promoted the IWR. Was it vengeance for NY, political opportunism, or should we believe she was easily fooled and trust her to be president?

Deflecting by pointing to Bernie's votes to support funding that provides protection and support for soldiers?

How is it that people are not bothered by the sickening "we came, we saw, he died" comment with no remorse for other lives that were lost? I would expect to hear it from Chenney or W, but not a person who is supposedly compassionate!

Her own words and actions reveal a war hawk who fantasizes about being under fire in Bosnia and expresses glee over a killing that would inevitably destabilize the region. Taking pride in having the Iranians as an enemy soon after a peace agreement had been negotiated is also extremely troubling.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/01/iran-hillary-clinton-hostages

When a person points out her flaws as a reason to not vote for her I have no argument, because I know that if I have to vote for her it will be with a heavy heart.

[nyabingi]

112. Hillary was just a very vocal and racist advocate

for the crime bill. You know, since we Black men need to be brought to heel. A person with integrity and a shred of decency would have publicly apologized for that statement and her position, but she's used the Black people she HAS brought to heel (like the CBC PAC and John Lewis) to provide cover for her.

Hillary has supported wars in the past and in the future because war is in the interests of the wealthy folks she serves for. She's carrying on the legacy of Dick Cheney, and Obama made a HUGE mistake appointing her as Sec. of State. I'm sure the people of Honduras, Libya, and Syria aren't too fond of Hillary despite her "impressive ratings".

[grasswire]

140. yeah......she helped millions of people lose their ability...

....to pull themselves out of poverty, by promoting the decimating of welfare.

She helped millions of AA men, women and children end up in prisons by supporting her husband's crime bill. (super predators who needed to come to heel)

Should I go on?

[BlueMTexpat]

141. And she did this ALL

BY HERSELF when she was not even a voting member of the US Congress at the time?

Bernie was in the US Congress at the time. Bernie actually VOTED for that crime bill, btw, so he must be quite persuadable. But IOKIBDI obviously,

Wow, if Hillary can accomplish all that without even being in Congress, she certainly IS the most effective candidate and will actually be able to accomplish something that will most certainly be better than ANY GOPer.

Amazing indeed! You can't have it both ways.

[WiffenPoof]

144. "She Pulls Up The Ladder..."

Great imagery. You

[Armstead]

23. Hillary.....Is.....not.....a....team.....player. She will use whatever "team" suits her purposes

[mythology]

37. As opposed to the guy who has trashed the Democratic party

But is running as a Democrat because a 3rd party can't win? If you're going to talk about somebody switching teams for benefit, pretending Sanders didn't do the same is silly.

[Armstead]

41. He could have run as a third party spoiler....

Gotten his message out throughout the entire process, gotten a good chunk of disaffected voters, maybe handed the WH to the GOP.

He chose to act like there might be hope for the Democratic Party to address the concerns he represents.

[Maedhros]

116. The Democratic Party is not sacrosanct. It deserves a little trashing from time to time. [n/t]

[madokie]

12. Thats bullshit and you know it

[UglyGreed]

21. .....

The Alaska Democratic Party has collected more than $40,000 from a political committee tied to the presidential campaign of Hillary Clinton that raises money from billionaire donors, complicating the party’s message as it calls for campaign finance reform.

The party, in a monthly report filed Friday with the Federal Election Commission, said it raised $43,500 from the Hillary Victory Fund, with $10,000 donations from billionaires, including hedge fund manager S. Donald Sussman and Hyatt hotel heir J.B. Pritzker.

In the same report, the Alaska Democratic Party said it transferred an equal amount of money, $43,500, [back] to the Democratic National Committee -- a move that, while legal, helps to effectively “obliterate” federal limits on donations to the national committee, according to one campaign finance expert.

“It just becomes a way to give more to the DNC to support the Clinton campaign,” said Paul S. Ryan, deputy executive director of the Campaign Legal Center, which advocates for campaign finance reform. “It’s effectively Hillary Clinton’s team soliciting Hillary Clinton’s supporters for much bigger checks than they can give to the campaign -- knowing that every penny could be spent on the Clinton campaign.”

(bolding mine)


A Cuban-born sugar tycoon. A California-based registered foreign agent for the government of Sri Lanka. A Chicago billionaire.

All of them are recent large donors to the Maine Democratic Party via a complex fundraising scheme called the Hillary Victory Fund. The fund exploits recent court decisions and weakened campaign finance laws to maximize political contributions and funnel them to the Democratic National Committee.

[...]

But all the contributions haven’t stayed in Maine, or any of the other state Democratic parties to which Hillary Victory Fund donations have been funneled. Federal Election Commission reports show that the two October and November transfers totaling $39,000 from the Hillary Victory Fund to the Maine Democratic Party each sat for less than 48 hours with the party before the exact same amounts were transferred to the Democratic National Committee, or DNC.

[...]

While individual contributions to the state and national parties are capped, transfers between state and national committees are unlimited. That means that, effectively, donors can skirt contribution limits to the DNC or state parties by giving through joint fundraising committees like the Hillary Victory Fund.
The Huffington Post reports that (bolding mine)

A joint fundraising committee linking Hillary Clinton to the national Democratic Party and 33 state parties is routing money through those state parties and back into the coffers of the Democratic National Committee. So far, 22 of the state parties linked to the Hillary Victory Fund have received $938,500 from the fund and sent the same amount back to the DNC, according to available campaign finance records. The Clinton campaign claims to have raised an additional $18 million for the party committees in the final three months of 2015, although records will not be disclosed until Jan. 31.

The movement of money from a joint fundraising committee through state parties and to the national party committee has been criticized by campaign finance reformers as a way to get around campaign contribution limits.

the money can easily be sent to the state parties most advantageous to the candidate raising the money -- in a swing state, for example. Or, as is happening with the Hillary Victory Fund, that money can be sent to the DNC, which redistributes it as they see fit.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/1/9/1467700/-This-May-Be-The-Reason-Bernie-s-Not-Fundraising-for-the-State-Democratic-Parties

[kristopher]

69. Kick and recommending this reply UG! nt

[George II]

71. Primary Candidates normally don't fund raise directly for state democratic parties, they do it for..

...the National Party, who then distributes funds to the state parties. That's how it works.

The only participation by primary candidates for state parties is generally by attending fund raising events conducted by those state committees, usually via the respective Jefferson Jackson dinners.

Clinton attended more of those than Sanders did.

[appalachiablue]

104. Important info. to know, thanks.

[Lorien]

22. The DNC has hijacked the party, making it a part of the right wing conservative

neoliberal Clinton machine. No TRUE liberal Progressive should give a dime to them!

[Maedhros]

118. More and more people will wake up and see them for what they are.

It's happening now.

[NWCorona]

29. Why would Bernie raise money for Hillary?

The man isn't stupid.

[Trajan]

36. Bernie has raised $40,000,000 ...

From the people
By the people
For the people ....

Hilary cannot hold a candle to this ...

So she has billionaires lining up to pay their filthy lucre to deny the people something of value to them ... Social Security ... Health care .. private prisons ..

FUCK Hillary ...

[revbones]

38. Are you talking about the Victory Fund nonsense? Might want to research that a bit more nt

[Plucketeer]

64. AND YET.....

The DSCC has NO qualms whatsoever about sending out solicitations for money BASED ON the success of their beloved partner, Bernie Sanders!

[Lizzie Poppet]

72. A DNC that blatantly favors her and has facilitated a shift to the right.

Not a single fuck given here for support of today's DNC...

[BuelahWitch]

106. No worries! DWS is sure to pick up BIG MONEY from Payday Loan Lenders!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027650893

[Kittycat]

146. No! LOBBYISTS have. Which is why we won't give the DNC a dime!

[padfun]

152. No, Bernie has raise a lot for them

I have donated to four others that the Bernie emails send me. He is campaigning for progressives as well.

You guys are just living in a cloud.

[TheCowsCameHome]

5. They seem to forget they will need support from EVERY

one of the "Vanquished Foes" in order for her to attain the Presidency.

EVERY ONE of us.

[randome]

10. Don't take to heart what one or two manic Clinton supporters might say.

I'm sure the vast majority of Democrats know that every vote is needed in this election.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]"If you're bored then you're boring." -Harvey Danger[/center][/font][hr]

[TheCowsCameHome]

17. I wish it was only "one or two" -

And you are correct, she has one tough road ahead, without the rest of "us" she goes exactly nowhere.

[Armstead]

25. I think it's the general mindset

They see anyone who isn't all loosey goosey happy at the prospect of eight more years of Corporate Democrat Control of the party as the enemy. Unfortunately that also applies to many rank and file Democrats who are happy at that prospect too,.

[NWCorona]

31. Agreed

But to them we are the racist ones. The Hillary Clinton forum in 2008 almost read like a hate sight with Hillary supporters calling Obama everything but that one word.

[SwampG8r]

19. They do seem to love the sight of burning bridges.

I think the worst ones know how hard they are making it and dont care.
Looking at what some posted about her in08 and what they are doing now
I would have to wonder if in fact their aim is to make sure hillary is as hard to vote.for.as.humanly possible.
It makes me wonder if their goal is to aid her with progressives at all.

[hobbit709]

74. Once they've burned the bridges between us all they'll be left with is this.

And without everyone they've alienated they haven't got a chance.

[TheCowsCameHome]

130. Burning bridges BEFORE you cross them is unusual.

I wonder how that will work out.

[Shadowflash]

96. Yup.

Vanquished foes until it's time that we're supposed to unquestioningly vote for Her Majesty.

[djean111]

6. Oh, and Bernie is selfish and narcissistic because he won't drop out Right Now and order us to

support Hillary. The memes of the day really are terribly putrid today.

I am afraid that what will happen, if Hillary is the nominee, is that more Republicans will see Trump as the Lesser Evil.
What a thing to contemplate - anyone thinking that enthusiasm can be ginned up for a lesser evil. That's really all they have.

[Svafa]

43. A lot of more traditional and moderate repubs

are creeped out by Drumpf, but I think people really underestimate the deep-seated hatred that repubs and many independents and moderates have for Clinton. A Drumpf/Clinton match-up is a frightening prospect.

[LibDemAlways]

80. Lesser evil is exactly what many will think

about Trump. No one should underestimate him. Hillary is weighed down by significant baggage. Trump will have a field day reminding voters about e-mails, Benghazi, and other assorted past Clinton scandals. Doesn't matter how much is manufactured bullshit. The R's will devour it like a ravished dog being thrown a big juicy steak. They'll turn out in record numbers to vote against her despite whatever misgivings they have about Trump.

If she is the nominee, Hillary will desperately need Bernie's voters -- all of them. Good luck with that. Sure, many will hold their noses and take one for the team. Others will vote Jill Stein, write in Bernie, or sit on their hands, unable to bring themselves to vote Republican lite. This is simply the wrong year for the DNC to be shoving the ultimate establishment candidate down our throats.

[alcibiades_mystery]

7. I'm a Hillary supporter and I don't think you're the enemy

I do like bread, though.



Good luck today, Bernie peeps!

[Agschmid]

15. Yup.

[Tanuki]

51. Neither does any other Hillary supporter here. I did a site search and could not find

anything to support the allegation of the OP. The only reference to "vanquished foe" came from another Sanders supporter.
I like bread, too! Some others here like to use bread for their baloney, apparently.

[Arazi]

107. It comes up in a simple search

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511379254

DSB



You and the others who somehow "couldn't find this " have been given the link several times now.

[Orsino]

9. Americans tend to treat their politics as they do sports.

A certain amount of trash-talking is understandable.

But seeing fellow DUers as enemies? That's where some of the stupidest posts come from.

[BlueMTexpat]

30. +1! eom

[Zynx]

14. Oh lord. It's just a rhetorical flourish.

And the candidate has done nothing to cause that anymore than Bernie has caused some of his supporters to call Hillary a "witch."

Stop. Demagoguing.

[Jenny_92808]

138. You say

"Bernie has CAUSED some of his supporters to call Hillary a "witch."

That is a false accusation....full ignore for you.

[LiberalElite]

16. I will forever be grateful to Bernie for bringing the DNC rot out in the open nt

[HooptieWagon]

20. + 1000

DNC has made it clear they don't want or need us.

[RoccoR5955]

26. Let's see if these "vanquished foes" come out and vote for her

if by the off chance she is the nominee.
I am still with Bernie. Bernie all the way.

[jillan]

27. I honestly do not care what they say about us.

I've been called a racist, sexist, xenophobe, clueless. Been told I am not a Democrat.
So many other things that I've lost track.

No matter what happens today, Bernie is not going anywhere. The money keeps pouring in & he keeps raising more money in PERSONAL donations than any other candidate in history.

So when they call me names & insult me; trash Bernie - I just.....

[Baitball Blogger]

32. Well, hopefully we won't turn into the disappeared on election day in the General, if she

wins the primary. Hillary will have a lot of courting to do between the primary and general if she wants a good showing.

Just speculating.

[PonyUp]

39. Foes? So we are enemy. Enemy doesn't vote for their enemy's candidates. n/t

[zappaman]

40. Awwwww here's a hug.

[GreatGazoo]

44. Which propaganda technique is that now -- Bandwagon ? with an extra helping of Ad Nauseum ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_techniques

[Tanuki]

46. Did that even happen? I just googled DU and the only reference to "vanquished foes" came from

a Sanders supporter about a week ago. I couldn't find a single statement of "vanquished foes" from a Hillary supporter.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511316872

[SidDithers]

57. Imagine that...nt

Sid

[Agschmid]

105. Yup.

[yardwork]

63. Don't bring facts into this. /nt

[Arazi]

83. Its here in this thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511379254

DSB

[Tanuki]

88. Thanks. But I see that they are calling on Bernie supporters to be treated "with dignity

and respect," and that they cited Lincoln's dictum of "malice toward none and charity toward all."

[Arazi]

89. You asked where "vanquished foes"was to be found. I provided the link

Its there plain as can be.

Its a shitty phrase and taints the entire post with insincerity tinged with malice

[Tanuki]

93. Yes, I thanked you for the link. It didn't turn up in my search because they had changed "foe"

to "opponent", and the post no longer reads as stated in the OP.

[Arazi]

94. It came up on my search even after the change

Even DSB realised s/he went too far. Exposed his/her true face

[SwampG8r]

143. You do undefstand that

By reading that posters previous posts anyone can see any claims of dignity or respect are purely sarcastic and maliciously applied?

[AgadorSparticus]

145. Yep. People just love to stir the pot....even if they have to make up shit to do so.

[NorthCarolina]

49. To Hillary supporters we Bernie folks ARE the enemy because we rail against their benefactors

and a corrupt system that, while lucrative for those seeking to extend status-quo through their support of establishment candidate(s), is devastating to the middle class, the poor and the elderly.

[Oilwellian]

78. I'm thankful that Bernie has exposed it

and the movement against the corruption will continue to grow.

[marions ghost]

85. Right

--the corrupt and dysfunctional system is really harmful to ALL of us (but they don't get that).

[merrily]

52. Nothing is going to give me a sad today. I am going to vote for Bernie today.

I'm going to vote for America, not for the billionaires (or the hundreds of millionsaires).

I am going to hold the pencil with two hands, so anyone who happens to see me can tell that I am not holding my nose at all. Liberal, honest, consistent, leading, not triangulating. For us. Not for billionaires, fracking, Keystone, TPP, etc. Doesn't accept dark money. No FBI investigation, no IRS investigation, no "Foundation." No bull puckies. WOW!

[Duval]

99. Wow! This put me in a super mood. Thanks!

[merrily]

117. It only gets better: best of both worlds video

[George II]

53. Hillary Clinton will still win the Democratic nomination and be elected President.

[YOHABLO]

55. I guess Hillary is counting on the Republicans who are disgruntled with their candidates.

I've over heard several conversations at the gym. These older white Republicans were saying '' well I ain't votin for Trump, I guess I'll have to vote for Hillary". Down here in GA.

[McKim]

136. She Will Give Republicans the Foreign Policy that They Want

They will vote for her because they will get the same PNAC Neoliberal Agenda Foreign Policy that they got with Bush.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

56. But, if she loses in the GE we will be referred to as powerful "spoilers".

[SidDithers]

58. Link?...nt

Sid

[yardwork]

67. They don't need no stinking links.

[berni_mccoy]

73. Search the site for "vanquished foe"

You'll find it. I'm sure you know how to use google.

[SidDithers]

75. 28 results..

none more recent than March 2015, and the poster was referring to Russia.

Link?

Sid

[berni_mccoy]

77. Stop using Bing

[SidDithers]

110. That was Google site search...nt

Sid

[berni_mccoy]

111. It works when I google it.

[SidDithers]

121. Nope. Site search box in upper corner, searching "vanquished foe"...

no results more current than Mar 2015.

Sid

[berni_mccoy]

124. Might want to review your Internet skills

[SidDithers]

125. Hey, i'm just using the search term you provided...

Sid

[berni_mccoy]

127. Others have found it. I'm sure you've already seen it.

[Arazi]

84. Here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511379254

DSB

[SidDithers]

109. It's been edited...

I'm sure the OP will be just as gracious.

Right?

Sid

[berni_mccoy]

113. Ha! The edited it SHAME. It doesn't change the fact that it was SAID

[SidDithers]

119. And now you'll edit your OP, right?...nt

Sid

[berni_mccoy]

122. Why should I? I didn't make an outrageous hate-filled statement.

[SidDithers]

123. ...

Sid

[Arazi]

115. i found it easily with a simple search, even after the edit

DSB edited after s/he saw this OP. Too bad the mask had already slipped and revealed the ugly beneath.

Impossible to put that genie back in the bottle

[Dem2]

59. Someone insulted me at work today

I think I'll quit.

[yardwork]

65. Nobody insulted me but I think that somebody thought about it.

As a result of this atrocity that might have happened in an alternate time stream, I'm on strike.

[Jester Messiah]

81. More like someone holding out one hand for a donation and the other hand as a middle finger.

I don't think I'll donate my vote.

[NCTraveler]

60. That's pretty polite considering the things...

Some Sanders supporters have called me. It is also exactly how many Sanders supporters have referred to our good progressive friends in South Carolina.

It's the primaries.

[Amimnoch]

61. I don't know which one did, but I disagree.

FWIW, I most definitely do not and have not seen Bernie, or his supporters as "foes". Political adversaries in a contested primary season.. sure, but never foes. Republicans and conservatives... those are the foes imo.

There's some Bernie supporters who I think have been assholes a few times, but let me not cast a brick from a glass house... so have some of us (Myself included a few times).

I also disagree completely with "vanquished". The primary season is still in swing. It's foolish rhetoric to be making that statement at this time. Of course, I'd be lying through my teeth if I stated I wasn't happy with the way it is shaping up.

I do disagree with the comment of the DNC and Hillary treating him like "dog shit". Campaign supporters (on both sides I will add) have been so much more vicious than either of our candidates have been to each other. The overwhelming majority of the DNC has backed Clinton, that is true. All of Bernie's co-workers in the Senate who have given an endorsement has given it to Clinton. All but 5 Democrats in the House have likewise endorsed Clinton. I can certainly understand why that would feel like piling on, but it is their endorsements to give, and that's the way our process works. I can sympathize, I felt the same way in 08 when it felt like all superdelegates and endorsements were stacking up against her. It sucks horribly when you believe in your candidate and don't get why those others don't.

I am sorry you feel that way. It does bother me how divisive this year has been. I'd like to think that, at the end of the day we are probably in agreement on the vast majority of things aside from our selection of candidate.

[whatchamacallit]

66. Fuck 'em, they drove me out of their ranks

and I'm grateful.

[JDPriestly]

68. I will vote for the other Democratic candidates on my ballot, but I will not vote for Hillary.

There are other alternatives, and I will leave DU if Hillary is the nominee.

I dislike her and the corruption she represents that much.

I want someone better for my country than either Hillary or Trump.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

70. Obama was the enemy in '08....

The Clintons have always run this way.

[SusanLarson]

76. RICO...

Gabbi should give Bernie the smoking gun which would allow him to go after them with a RICO suit.

[deutsey]

79. For some, it's all about "my side" winning

For others, it's all about all of us winning.

[OnyxCollie]

82. Fuck 'em.

Horrible, terrible, no good, very bad people.

[Chicago1980]

86. I really wish this back and forth would stop.

It's so very disconcerting.

[HassleCat]

87. Today is slay the dragon day

When Hillary Clinton puts on her polished armor and sticks her lance in the Sanders dragon. But she can't slay the Donald with the same weapons and tactics, so she'll ride her mighty charger speedily to the right, only to find the Donald attacking her from the left. Her vassals will call out to her. "To the right!" some will say. "No! No! To the left!" others will warn. Should be an interesting battle.

[stupidicus]

91. Well, they are the enemy to peace on earth, getting UHC, a $15MW, and the corporatists BFFs

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/2/29/1493380/-The-Clinton-Wall-Street-Affair-Cozy-for-24-Years?_=2016-02-29T13:59:03-08:00

who are only talking about at best, winning the battle of the nomination nod, not the long term intra-party war we're now embroiled in. And if they think they have it bad around here now, just wait and see what happens if she wins all the marbles, and starts playing footsies with the rightwingers like her husband did, like signing the TPP

and the same thing goes for recriminations should she lose to the Rump http://bradblog.com/?p=11597 which they'll no doubt blame on all those they've vilified all this time.

[retrowire]

92. the real foe is the fact that Republicans have beaten us with voter turnout

in every state so far.

yep.

[Scalded Nun]

101. And HRC will energize the base for a great turnout.

Yeah, right.

[retrowire]

103. she certainly didn't win SC because of raw voter turnout. nt

[Betty Karlson]

95. K&R for truth.

Camp Clinton's attitude is widening the rift in our party. Something will have to give, and if they don't watch out, that something will be the unity. PUMA version 2.0: DNC gets to keep the party, but not the voters.

[KPN]

97. Lol. They really are pretty small ...

By the way, BINGO on this:
"Let's be clear. Bernie Did the DNC a HUGE FAVOR by running as a democrat. He has been more true to the party than most establishment Dems and he's been more true to the liberal cause than any Dem. "

[jwirr]

98. GOTV - I donate $27.00 this morning. I am not defeated.

[Bobbie Jo]

100. Oh Noes!!!

Get a grip. It's called pushback for the many months of constant trashing by your camp.

[Vogon_Glory]

102. Super Tuesday Polls Close This Evening, Florida's Primary In Two Weeks

Super Tursday's polls close this evening, Florida's primary is in two weeks: someone may have to learn acceptance the way Secretary Clinton's followers did in 2008. If Mr. Sanders' supporters don't get the big wins they're hoping for, one hopes that they'll show the same political maturity that Secretary Clinton's supporters did in 2008 when they closed ranks with other Democrats to support President Obama.

DEFEAT THE REPUBLICANS THIS NOVEMBER!

[Duval]

108. K&R! nt

[Babel_17]

114. The difference between Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged somehow comes to mind

http://www.thomhartmann.com/users/halrager/blog/2011/04/ayn-rand-other-course-involves-orcs

[enid602]

120. misread

You mistead her post. I believe she said 'vanquished bros.'

[arcane1]

126. Of course we are the enemy, we stand for The People over corporations.

I wear that badge with pride.

[Trust Buster]

128. You start an entire thread designed to play "victim" in response to one statement from one poster ?

Wow....you must have a lot of time on your hands.

[lumberjack_jeff]

129. Sorry - I am not yet vanquished. n/t

[Orrex]

131. You immediately contradict yourself

You open with

Hey Bernie Supporters: We've been referred to by Hillary supporters as VANQUISHED FOES.

and then instantly follow with

No shit, a Hillary supporter referred to us this way, with pity, so at least there's that.

Which is it? Is it "Hillary supporters," or is it "a Hillary supporter?"

It makes a big difference, even if that difference undermines your intended narrative in which Sanders and his supporters are innocent victims of a cruel electoral machine. Similarly, I could easily find an anti-Clinton post by a grotesquely unhinged Sanders supporter right here on DU, but it would be intellectually dishonest of me to attempt to pass this off as representative of Sanders supporters generally. However, that's what you're doing by equating "a Hillary supporter" with "Hillary supporters."

Sanders himself wouldn't employ such dishonest rhetorical tactics; why would you?

Let's be clear. Bernie Did the DNC a HUGE FAVOR by running as a democrat. He has been more true to the party than most establishment Dems and he's been more true to the liberal cause than any Dem.

That's a transparent preemptive effort to spin a primary loss.

How is he treated in kind by the DNC and Hillary? Like dog shit.

Really? What, specifically, has Sanders--a career Independent until it was convenient to identify as Democrat--done for the DNC?

I fear that may be the case unless Bernie can overcome the greatest obstacles put in place by those who should be his friends, as he has been the truest friend to them.

This, too, is part of the preemptive narrative of failure. The strategy has been clear from the beginning, so that if Sanders doesn't win the primary, then the loss is the fault of everyone else: Clinton cheated; the DNC marginalized him; DWS disrespected him; the media blacked him out; and so on.

Post of this nature have circulated almost since the day that Sanders declared his candidacy, rationalizing his eventual defeat since long before the first vote was cast.

Would it be fair of me to take your post--with its claims of dog shit and its predictions of doom--as emblematic of Sanders' supporters in general?

[Beacool]

132. Hillary "bread"?

I doubt it, Hillary can't cook to save her life.

As for the rest of the post, the reality on the ground is that Hillary in all probability will be the nominee. Not because of some nefarious plot of the DNC or Hillary, simply because more people will vote for her than Sanders.

[Orrex]

133. She's on a roll

And let's not overlook the amount of dough she's raised.

The eventual Republican candidate is toast.

[Beacool]

134. Let's hope so.

The thought of Trump as president is downright scary.

[Bernblu]

137. The thought of Trump or Hillary as president is downright scary.

[Blue_In_AK]

135. We may get the last laugh (or cry)

if these polls are true.

Ok everyone, please listen and hoist this information on board:

Favorable - unfavorable ratings from the CNN/ORC poll just completed.

Drumpf 37-60
Clinton 42-55
Sanders 57-33

Head to heads:

Clinton beats Drumpf 52-44
Sanders beats Drumpf 54-42

Clinton loses to Rubio 47-50
Sanders beats Rubio 53-45

Clinton loses to Cruz 48-49
Sanders beats Cruz 57-40

But, of course, Bernie is a socialist and is unelectable.

[Darb]

149. Oh darn, one Hillary supporter said "vanquished".

OFF WITH MY NOSE!!!!

[Lorien]

153. They really want to ensure that we never vote for their candidate

don't they? Not giving us a single reason to vote for her is bad enough, but coupling that with their "no we can't!" attitude and constant personal attacks truly is a piss poor way to attract voters to their "cause" (I'm still not sure what their cause is. Maintaining the status quo, or just having any human with two X chromosomes in the Whitehouse)?