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[JaneyVee]

2. Does anyone really believe SuperDels will even be an issue?

[beachbum bob]

4. only those who don't have superdelegate majorities complain about it

I remember 2008 at Obama when he successfully attained super delegates and the whining from hillary supporters.....

[karynnj]

8. In 2008, Obama got a large number of superdelegates at the end who pledged to go with

the person who had the majority of the pledged delegates. Look back and you will see that the first mainstream mention of superdelegates possibly putting their thumb on the scale in favor of a person who narrowly loses the popular vote happened in the wake of super Tuesday - the day HRC had been expected to become the defacto nominee - instead she and Obama were essentially tied in delegates and the next wave of states more favorable to Obama. That was when that idea was put out. Obama surrogates, including Kerry and Kennedy, argued - not that they would work to get Obama more superdelegates, but that it would be wrong to overturn the pledged result. Note, that their appeal to fairness was not really altruistic, but based on the fact that if HRC got 50% of the pledged delegates or more -- there would be absolutely no talk of Obama getting enough delegates for him to win.

[mmonk]

5. This is a big issue with my son every time he searches

for delegate counts. He is a very angry 25 year old the Demicrats are going to lose to unaffiliated status (only because Greens are denied ballot status in our state). The Democratic establishment it seems has decided loss of the youth vote is ok.

[MineralMan]

6. There's no superdelegate "crisis."

By the convention, one of the candidates will have a clear, substantial lead in pledged delegates, chosen in proportion to the votes in the 50 states. There's not going to be anything like a tie.

[Hortensis]

7. Remember W? A very sobering lesson.

And we're getting one hell of a lesson right now as the GOP threatens to destroy itself and/or foist a nincompoop with a serious, diagnosable personality disorder right into the Oval Office.

I want one man, one vote, absolutely! But self destruction would throw away our power and negate our votes. I support some improved version of the superdelegate system that brings some political professionals into the process against the day that others foolishly try to steer our Democratic ship onto the rocks or into a hurricane.

[Hortensis]

11. I don't think removal of civics from schools is

accidental, nor is the virtual disappearance of broadcast news that at least educated people slightly. National demoralization and new teachings that our government is totally corrupt, intrinsically incompetent, and dangerously oppressive have swept the nation hand-in-glove with ignorance.

Jefferson knew that an educated populace was absolutely vital to a successful democracy, and those who seek to destroy our government know that too.

"Our movement must destroy the prevalent statist paradigm.” Charles Koch, who responded to the setback of Obama's election by gathering 700 fabulously wealthy ultraconservatives together to continue and expand the transfer of power and wealth from us to them.

I'm with you. Coffee sounds good.

[NCTraveler]

9. "Crisis" Ohhh my. Love it. Nt