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jillan

(39,451 posts)
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 02:03 PM Mar 2016

Hillary supporters - name 1 policy reason you are supporting Hillary other than her experience.

I am curious about actual policies.

We know that she has tons of time in government; we know that having the first woman president would be amazing.... aside from all that - what is your #1 policy issue that makes you support Hillary over Bernie.

Going to ask the same question to Bernie supporters. This is about Hillary only. Not about Bernie.

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Hillary supporters - name 1 policy reason you are supporting Hillary other than her experience. (Original Post) jillan Mar 2016 OP
Jesus H Christ on a pogo stick - just 'cos we are banned from your Group - pkdu Mar 2016 #1
If I wasn't banned from the Hillary group I would have posted the same exact thing there. jillan Mar 2016 #3
"There is a reason why I am doing this." - sure you would. nt pkdu Mar 2016 #10
Rather than telling us why Hillary's policies are better than Bernie's, you chose to argue with me. jillan Mar 2016 #11
Improving on ACA, College funding, Pipeline, Preserve Social Security, and more that Sanders' Hoyt Mar 2016 #2
Wow! Dawgs Mar 2016 #4
HAAAAAAAA!!! me 2 please puff puff pass that high-grade delusional Joint my way cleopotrick Mar 2016 #18
Well, I guess you think you are smarter than all the folks who disagree with you and are voting for Hoyt Mar 2016 #19
Um, yeah. n/t Dawgs Mar 2016 #24
Hoyt has also been an enthuisatic supporter of the TPP, so there you go LondonReign2 Mar 2016 #25
Yeah, it's like a list of things she's going to fuck up on 2pooped2pop Mar 2016 #29
Support for ACA. Agschmid Mar 2016 #5
Wall Street reform, ACA, continue Obama legacy YCHDT Mar 2016 #6
Wall Street reform - sorry, I couldn't get past that canard nichomachus Mar 2016 #26
I love that fact that she attempted to bypass FOIA requests by using a private e-mail server. seaotter Mar 2016 #7
A bunch.. DCBob Mar 2016 #8
She is brilliant. Octafish Mar 2016 #9
She absolutely is. She is also, however, corrupt and a chronic liar, and evidence of that abounds. JudyM Mar 2016 #12
Charter schools? Octafish Mar 2016 #15
That made me laugh, thank you. JudyM Mar 2016 #16
Please next time SheenaR Mar 2016 #13
Thanks! Octafish Mar 2016 #14
You left out the rest of the article PaulaFarrell Mar 2016 #17
Thanks! Octafish Mar 2016 #20
probably PaulaFarrell Mar 2016 #21
I don't know. Do you think it's because I'm a bad person? Octafish Mar 2016 #23
eh? PaulaFarrell Mar 2016 #34
Isn't this the one that she did the exact opposite 2pooped2pop Mar 2016 #30
She would defend and improve on the ACA. n/t Yavin4 Mar 2016 #22
How exactly would she "improve" on it? nichomachus Mar 2016 #27
How is Bernie going to get Single Payer passed? n/t Yavin4 Mar 2016 #28
That wasn't my question nichomachus Mar 2016 #31
Her position on sensible gun bills. Thinkingabout Mar 2016 #32
I actually think this could be an interesting thread Mufaddal Mar 2016 #33
Thank you. I'm also a Bernie supporter femmedem Mar 2016 #38
Ok, but... auntpurl Mar 2016 #35
women's rights -- that's one DrDan Mar 2016 #36
Clinton introduces legislation while Sanders just VOTES on it! fun n serious Mar 2016 #37
not hill2016 Mar 2016 #39

jillan

(39,451 posts)
11. Rather than telling us why Hillary's policies are better than Bernie's, you chose to argue with me.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 02:22 PM
Mar 2016
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
2. Improving on ACA, College funding, Pipeline, Preserve Social Security, and more that Sanders'
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 02:10 PM
Mar 2016

Last edited Tue Mar 1, 2016, 04:28 PM - Edit history (1)

supporters try to convince people she's against. Since Sanders will get zero support from GOPers, and some Democrats in conservative areas, there is no way he can achieve what he is promising if he were to somehow get elected. Take the ACA -- what Sanders supports is more likely to lead to the repeal of ACA and an inadequate voucher system.

I believe Clinton will get us there faster.

You asked.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
19. Well, I guess you think you are smarter than all the folks who disagree with you and are voting for
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 04:29 PM
Mar 2016

Clinton, as we post.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
26. Wall Street reform - sorry, I couldn't get past that canard
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:38 PM
Mar 2016

They didn't give her millions of dollars so she could "reform" them. If anyone believes that they did, they shouldn't be allowed out without adult supervision.

 

seaotter

(576 posts)
7. I love that fact that she attempted to bypass FOIA requests by using a private e-mail server.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 02:14 PM
Mar 2016

It shows great judgment.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
8. A bunch..
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 02:14 PM
Mar 2016

Women's rights, gay rights, civil rights, workers rights, ACA, environment, global warming, wall street reform, national security.

Also, the fact she will build on the progress of the past 8 years rather than tear it down and start over.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
9. She is brilliant.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 02:15 PM
Mar 2016

What Elizabeth Warren wrote:



Mrs. Clinton thrust her hand forward. "You must be Professor Warren. I read your op-ed in the New York Times about women and bankruptcy, and I want to talk with you." A few weeks earlier I had written a column that sharply criticized a bill making its way through Congress that proposed to undercut bankruptcy protections for middle-class families in financial trouble. Before I could respond, Mrs. Clinton snapped her head sharply to the side and called to no one in particular, "Where's lunch? I'm hungry."

We were ushered to a small office with cracked leatherette chairs, carefully set out with lunch for the First Lady -- half a hamburger, French fries, Diet Coke -- and an iced tea for me. The small army of aides and security agents were left behind in the hallway; there were just the two of us in the tiny room.

Before she had taken a single bite of her hamburger, Mrs. Clinton tore into the business at hand: "I have two questions for you: How are women affected by the bankruptcy laws, and how did a woman get to be a chaired professor at Harvard Law School?"

For the next twenty-five minutes, I pounded Mrs. Clinton with graphs, charts, and projections. She ate fast and asked questions even faster. I have taught bankruptcy law to thousands of students -- some of them among the brightest in the country -- but I never saw one like Mrs. Clinton. Impatient, lightning-quick, and interested in all the nuances. In just half an hour, she went from knowing almost nothing about the bankruptcy system to grasping the counterintuitive twist that single mothers were helped when their ex-husbands filed bankruptcy because these men could discharge credit card debts and use the money to catch up on their child support. I explained to Mrs. Clinton how the pending bankruptcy bill would effectively dismantle bankruptcy protections for families, forcing single mothers to compete with legions of credit card bill collectors for an ex-husband's income and making it more difficult for families to hold on to their homes.

At the end of our discussion, Mrs. Clinton stood up and said, "Well, I'm convinced. It is our job to stop that awful bill. You help me, and I'll help you." We talked university politics for a bit, then walked outside. As we stepped through the door, she grabbed me by the shoulder, turned me around for the obligatory photograph, shook my hand again, and headed off with her people.

-- The Cement Life Raft

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/credit/more/cement.html

JudyM

(29,233 posts)
12. She absolutely is. She is also, however, corrupt and a chronic liar, and evidence of that abounds.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 02:24 PM
Mar 2016

Which of her policies do you like better than Bernie's, though?

SheenaR

(2,052 posts)
13. Please next time
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 02:26 PM
Mar 2016

include the portion that immediately follows where she essentially calls her a hypocrite and is beholden to Wall St.

Clinton is a brilliant mind. No question. Please don't deal in half truths.

Otherwise your story reads like this:

April 14, 1865- Act I of "Our American Cousin Was Great!"

PaulaFarrell

(1,236 posts)
17. You left out the rest of the article
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 03:29 PM
Mar 2016

"Mrs. Clinton's newfound opposition to the bankruptcy bill surprised me. Given her legal training and her devotion to women's causes, I had certainly expected her to grasp the importance of the issue. But President Clinton's staff had been quietly supporting the bankruptcy bill for several months. Bill Clinton wanted to show that he and other "New Democrats" could play ball with business interests, and the major banks were lobbying hard for changes in the bankruptcy laws. I had expected that it would take a lot more than thirty minutes to convince Hillary Clinton to depart from the position widely rumored to be supported by her husband.

But Mrs. Clinton stayed firm in her fight against "that awful bill." She was convinced that the bill was "unfair to women and children," and she intended to stand by her principles, even if it cost some Democratic party candidates campaign contributions. Over the ensuing months, she was true to her word. With her strong support, the Democrats slowed the bill's passage through Congress. When Congress finally passed the bill in October 2000, President Clinton vetoed it. The following summer, an aide explained to me the abrupt about-face: "A couple of days after Mrs. Clinton met with you, we changed sides [on the bankruptcy bill] so fast that you could see skid marks in the hallways of the White House." Thanks to Mrs. Clinton, families still had one financial refuge left -- at least for the moment.

But the story doesn't end there. The banking lobbyists were persistent. President Clinton was on his way out, and credit card giant MBNA emerged as the single biggest contributors to President Bush's campaign. In the spring of 2001, the bankruptcy bill was reintroduced in the Senate, essentially unchanged from the version President Clinton had vetoed the previous year.

This time freshman Senator Hillary Clinton voted in favor of the bill.

Had the bill been transformed to get rid of all those awful provisions that had so concerned First Lady Hillary Clinton? No. The bill was essentially the same, but Hillary Rodham Clinton was not. As First Lady, Mrs. Clinton had been persuaded that the bill was bad for families, and she was willing to fight for her beliefs. Her husband was a lame duck at the time he vetoed the bill; he could afford to forgo future campaign contributions. As New York's newest senator, however, it seems that Hillary Clinton could not afford such a principled position. Campaigns cost money, and that money wasn't coming from families in financial trouble. Senator Clinton received $140,000 in campaign contributions from banking industry executives in a single year, making her one of the top two recipients in the Senate. Big banks were now part of Senator Clinton's constituency. She wanted their support, and they wanted hers -- including a vote in favor of "that awful bill.""

C'mn oseriously - do you honestly think people are stupid and haven't watched the video of this?

 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
30. Isn't this the one that she did the exact opposite
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:43 PM
Mar 2016

On later? Weathervaning is not a reason to support her.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
31. That wasn't my question
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:43 PM
Mar 2016

I'm not a Bernie supporter and you're the one who said Hillary would "improve" the ACA. What is the plan for that?

Mufaddal

(1,021 posts)
33. I actually think this could be an interesting thread
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:46 PM
Mar 2016

if my fellow Sandernistas could pipe down for five seconds. You (not OP, I mean generally) can't ask someone why they support a candidate if it's simply bait to tell them they're fools.

femmedem

(8,201 posts)
38. Thank you. I'm also a Bernie supporter
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:06 PM
Mar 2016

and I am genuinely curious to hear people's reasons for voting for Hillary. Besides, I don't think it sways anyone towards Bernie for us to jump all over people for supporting Hillary. Quite the opposite.

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
35. Ok, but...
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:47 PM
Mar 2016

I'm not sure why many people would contribute to this thread since nearly everyone who has is getting attacked.

However, I have quite a thick skin and I am feeling very positive about Hillary's campaign today, so if you feel you must attack me, have at it.

Continuing Obama's good progress is first on the list, most especially the ACA.

Protecting women's rights is two.

And a firm foreign policy is three. The US will be one of a coalition who, I fear, will simply be forced into more intervention in Syria before more and more innocent people are slaughtered, and I want a strong, experienced hand at the tiller. Someone who has worked with all of the pertinent foreign leaders in the past who will make good decisions about the way forward.

I'm sure I'll get flamed for the last one if anything, but as someone who lives in Europe, I see the number of desperate people who are fleeing that country on a daily basis and traveling with their infant children on foot across the whole of a continent, preferring to live in tent cities and risk dangerous water crossings rather than face the atrocities there.

I could give you a hundred more reasons why I support Hillary, but the biggest one is that she's a brilliant, strong champion of a woman and I will be proud to the point of tears to watch her be sworn in as our first woman President.

 

fun n serious

(4,451 posts)
37. Clinton introduces legislation while Sanders just VOTES on it!
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:59 PM
Mar 2016

Clinton introduces legislation while Sanders just VOTES on it for the most part even though he has been a Government official for much longer than she has. She has rolled her sleeves up and gotten more done.

You asked for ONE example here is mine.


http://www.plannedparenthoodaction.org/blog/how-do-hillary-clinton-and-bernie-sanders-compare-womens-health/


The policy issue is she works hard on all issues while Sanders seems to only vote on them for the most part.

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