Dyson on Maher: Hillary better than Obama regarding BLM concerns

[thesquanderer]

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In discussing Ashley Williams' BLM confrontation of Hillary Clinton last week, Michael Eric Dyson speaking on Real Time with Bill Maher said:

The reason we're talking about this today is because they [BLM] have been effective in forcing a conversation that we'd rather avoid. But at the end of the day, I'm rolling with HRC to the end, because I think she gives a serious indication of what's happening in this country racially. So we can have Black Lives Matter articulating their concerns, and Hillary Clinton responding to them, better by the way then the occpuant of the White House and others who claim to be the friends of African American people as well.

I was surprised at such a positive reaction to how Hillary has been handling BLM, and especially when it was paired with a not-so-subtle diss toward Obama (seeing how many Hillary supporters seem to take unkindly to, for example, Cornell West's criticism of Obama).

[immoderate]

1. Dyson is a Hillary supporter.

If Hillary responded to BLM in any significant way, I'm unaware of it.

How is she on private prisons? Zero Tolerance? Three strikes? Death penalty? Police immunity?

--imm

[thesquanderer]

7. Yes, I wasn't aware of people being so happy with HRC's response to BLM.

I've certainly seen Hillary supporters criticize Bernie over BLM (especially early on), but I don't remember seeing particular accolades for Hillary in this respect, either.

[Gamecock Lefty]

2. But but but what about Killer Mike's endorsement of Bernie???

[Kall]

3. Oh man.

Can you imagine the shitstorm around here if a Sanders surrogate had said that the current occupant of the White House claimed to be friends of the African American people, and that Bernie would do a better job of addressing their concerns, a few days before an election?

[thesquanderer]

8. Oh yes! (n/t)

[whatchamacallit]

4. Is that part of the legacy that needs to be preserved?

So confusing...

[thesquanderer]

11. Yes, it can be hard to keep track of when criticizing Obama is and isn't off limits.

I wonder if Hillary still stands by her statement, "Great nations need organizing principles, and 'Don't do stupid stuff' is not an organizing principle."

[cleopotrick]

5. Dyson was having a laugh the whole time

He just enjoys stringing big words together until his point is unassailably complex then ends it on a pithy note.

[Bluenorthwest]

6. Dyson criticized Hillary all through 08, now he criticizes Obama, whom he praised in 08....

"I was once a vocal surrogate for Obama. But I grew disillusioned with his timid responses to racial crisis, with how willing he was to disclaim his racial affiliation, and more grievously, his shirking of his political duty."

This year, his job is to degrade Obama and promote Hillary. He's out there saying the opposite of what he used to say and yet claiming he was right both times. Very Christian of him.

[Kall]

9. He had an interesting talk with Glen Ford on Democracy Now at the 2012 DNC convention.

I think Part 3 was up too, but I think Part 2 is missing.

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Yeah, here's Part 3:

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[thesquanderer]

10. I think Dyson may actually be showing consistency

Despite speaking more favorably about Obama then than now, there is arguably a consistency between the two positions.

Back then, Ford said Obama was too far to the right, and Dyson argued that Obama was as far left as was politically practical.

Now, in choosing to support Hillary rather than Bernie, Dyson may in effect again be arguing that Hillary is as far to the left as is politically practical...?