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A Tweet from Naomi Klein (Original Post) Ferd Berfel Mar 2016 OP
Climate change and the sixth global mass-extinction event is happening now SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2016 #1
Well not to be contrary but if we're already in mass extinction, why bother? Armstead Mar 2016 #31
Yes, because we still have time to delay if we can cut emissions. Duval Mar 2016 #36
How big a mass extinction do you want it to be? gcomeau Mar 2016 #46
careful with that nihilism! TimeToEvolve Mar 2016 #52
Mass extinctions don't wipe out everything. jeff47 Mar 2016 #60
Oh snap.. disillusioned73 Mar 2016 #2
Thanks for posting this! monicaangela Mar 2016 #3
But she is a woman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thereismore Mar 2016 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #5
a damned smart one too tk2kewl Mar 2016 #6
Indeed. nt thereismore Mar 2016 #7
So clearly she is going to burn in that special womanly hell nilram Mar 2016 #76
So many issues to care about. Unfortunately it appears all the Clinton supporters want Nanjeanne Mar 2016 #8
Hillary is spelled with two LLs, Naomi. Great journalists you are. oasis Mar 2016 #9
"Great journalists you are" MissDeeds Mar 2016 #12
I don't count on my writing skills for a paycheck. oasis Mar 2016 #16
I do, and look at the mess I always make of my posts Armstead Mar 2016 #33
Over the years, I would dial in when she appeared as a guest on oasis Mar 2016 #38
You might want to rethink your spelling of Madam if you care to be respectful. Otherwise, one might xocet Mar 2016 #39
And she doesn't count on tweets for a paycheck. arcane1 Mar 2016 #51
Well, if you want to nitpick grammar... NJCher Mar 2016 #19
I don't correct keyboard warriors on spelling and grammar as a courtesy. oasis Mar 2016 #23
And Here I thought that Madame Doctor Secretary Clinton spelled her name RoccoR5955 Mar 2016 #20
I just call her "Sell Out!" Dustlawyer Mar 2016 #27
Twitter doesn't allow corrections. JackRiddler Mar 2016 #24
Thanks, we all learned something today. oasis Mar 2016 #25
The world may be crumbling and you worry about spelling. Hillary can't be trusted. rhett o rick Mar 2016 #68
An important endorsement. jalan48 Mar 2016 #10
She's Feelin The Bern! Naomi always speaks truth to irresponsible power! Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #11
she always has, that's why I respect her so much litlbilly Mar 2016 #18
I'm reading "This Changes Everything" now... mikeysnot Mar 2016 #35
How is it? I get so riled up reading NF like Naomi's books too. We must stop the Oligarch's war on Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #55
Frustrating. mikeysnot Mar 2016 #75
Funny how people who UglyGreed Mar 2016 #13
Right? #NotmeUs. SammyWinstonJack Mar 2016 #30
I know, right? ozone_man Mar 2016 #63
Wish SHE could run for president whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #14
I think she's Canadian, eh? Armstead Mar 2016 #34
Yep whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #43
Naomi Klein as Secretary of interior then lostnfound Mar 2016 #57
Oooo... Ferd Berfel Mar 2016 #59
K & R! TIME TO PANIC Mar 2016 #15
As usual, Naomi is right on the mark! pdsimdars Mar 2016 #17
Thanks for reminder Naomi. You are my hero. jhart3333 Mar 2016 #21
I am glad that at least SOMEONE knows RoccoR5955 Mar 2016 #22
Hillary supports fracking. Herman4747 Mar 2016 #26
Kicked and Recced eom Arazi Mar 2016 #28
Looking at our nation you can tell the future of humanity is a priority, Lol. n/t jtuck004 Mar 2016 #29
GOP propagandists must love a mind so susceptible to suggestion. A perfect subject for BF Skinner Recoverin_Republican Mar 2016 #32
BF Skinner? Ewwww He put his own child in a Skinner Box. Duval Mar 2016 #41
yeah, had to hit the 'reward' bar ten times to get out. --- Not! Just kidding. Recoverin_Republican Mar 2016 #45
Now THAT is an important endorsement. JDPriestly Mar 2016 #37
I LOVE Naomi Klein. hifiguy Mar 2016 #40
SidDithers of DU reported she ''was a bit of a drinker'' at U-T. Octafish Mar 2016 #62
That post is mostly about Naomi Wolfe. postulater Mar 2016 #66
Reply 82. I got a screen shot. Octafish Mar 2016 #67
Thanks. postulater Mar 2016 #69
Kicked and recommended. Duval Mar 2016 #42
K&R kgnu_fan Mar 2016 #44
Well, I love Naomi Klein BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #47
" Does she really want to see a GOPer in the WH?" Hell NO! RiverLover Mar 2016 #48
thanks 4 posting this TimeToEvolve Mar 2016 #54
Always. Anytime! /nt RiverLover Mar 2016 #64
Didn't you hear Hillary say she is immune to bribes? Gary 50 Mar 2016 #58
Amen & hallelujah! RiverLover Mar 2016 #65
K&R yuiyoshida Mar 2016 #49
I support Bernie on climate change avaistheone1 Mar 2016 #50
Hold that bus! We have someone else to throw under it. nt nichomachus Mar 2016 #53
All the coolest people are for Bernie nt TheDormouse Mar 2016 #56
Wow! K&R! This post has hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Mar 2016 #61
Wall Street trusts her. whereisjustice Mar 2016 #70
Kick and Rex warrprayer Mar 2016 #71
I think people will need more than a gentle reminder of this incredibly important point Fast Walker 52 Mar 2016 #72
Proud to stand with Ms Klein. She is right. Clinton can't be trusted. Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #73
Tweet from me: The formula that Bernie Sanders proposes to address climate change... NNadir Mar 2016 #74
Kickin' & a Recken' 2banon Mar 2016 #77
 

SoLeftIAmRight

(4,883 posts)
1. Climate change and the sixth global mass-extinction event is happening now
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 03:27 PM
Mar 2016

Sanders knows this.

He is the only one that win keep this in the spotlight

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
31. Well not to be contrary but if we're already in mass extinction, why bother?
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:33 PM
Mar 2016

I'm Bernie all the way, and support the climate change agenda.

But on a cosmic level, if we're already going down, does it make a difference?

 

Duval

(4,280 posts)
36. Yes, because we still have time to delay if we can cut emissions.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:38 PM
Mar 2016

Bernie's idea of putting a tax on carbon emissions is a good way to start.

 

gcomeau

(5,764 posts)
46. How big a mass extinction do you want it to be?
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:26 PM
Mar 2016

"Mass extinction" refers to the large scale loss of species and biodiversity planet wide. Not the specific extinction of the human race.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
60. Mass extinctions don't wipe out everything.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 09:18 PM
Mar 2016

If they did, we wouldn't be here.

If we do nothing, lots of plants and animals will go extinct. Billions of humans will die....leaving billions of humans alive.

If we stop doing incremental crap, we might save some of those plant and animal species. And fewer billions of humans will die.

monicaangela

(1,508 posts)
3. Thanks for posting this!
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 03:31 PM
Mar 2016

And, thank you Naomi Klein. Hopefully sooner rather than later the populous will understand this is one of if not the most important problem we face on this planet, and the person selected for president should not be someone who is owned by corporate America.

Response to thereismore (Reply #4)

nilram

(2,886 posts)
76. So clearly she is going to burn in that special womanly hell
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 03:14 PM
Mar 2016

that Albright spoke of. At least, according to Albright.

Nanjeanne

(4,915 posts)
8. So many issues to care about. Unfortunately it appears all the Clinton supporters want
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 04:09 PM
Mar 2016

is Hillary annointed and money to control politics.

oasis

(49,335 posts)
9. Hillary is spelled with two LLs, Naomi. Great journalists you are.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 04:14 PM
Mar 2016

No matter, the next time you write about her you'll refer to her as, Madam President.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
33. I do, and look at the mess I always make of my posts
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:35 PM
Mar 2016

Naomi Klein (hope I spelled her name right) is one of the most clear-eyed and brilliant writers and speakers out there.

I wouldn't dismiss her because of a few misplaced digits while typing.

oasis

(49,335 posts)
38. Over the years, I would dial in when she appeared as a guest on
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:41 PM
Mar 2016

a talking heads show. After Hill wraps up the nomination, Naomi will be forced to train her guns back on the GOP. I'll lighten up on her at that.

xocet

(3,871 posts)
39. You might want to rethink your spelling of Madam if you care to be respectful. Otherwise, one might
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:43 PM
Mar 2016

infer you intend a double entendre with quite a negative connotation.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
51. And she doesn't count on tweets for a paycheck.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 07:24 PM
Mar 2016

But hey, anything to deflect from pro-fracking Clinton!

NJCher

(35,622 posts)
19. Well, if you want to nitpick grammar...
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 04:39 PM
Mar 2016

Put "Hillary" in quotes, as you are talking about a word. "Great journalists you are" is not only an incomplete sentence, but it addresses Naomi in the plural through the use of the "s" and the "are." Naomi is clearly not two people.

Please write a little more. I'm not teaching grammar this semester and I'm sure you won't let my skills get rusty.


Cher

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
20. And Here I thought that Madame Doctor Secretary Clinton spelled her name
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 04:40 PM
Mar 2016

with an e and two L's, as in Hellary!

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
24. Twitter doesn't allow corrections.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 04:47 PM
Mar 2016

I go nuts about mistakes on names, but it happens to everyone.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
68. The world may be crumbling and you worry about spelling. Hillary can't be trusted.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 10:26 PM
Mar 2016

At least by the 99%. Goldman-Sachs trusts her, they paid enough.

There are two side to the class war, why would you choose the side of the wealthy bastards that brought up this mess?

mikeysnot

(4,756 posts)
35. I'm reading "This Changes Everything" now...
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:37 PM
Mar 2016

on the last few pages, have to return it to the library in morning...

Staying away from Non-Fiction for a while to save what little hope I have for my kids future.

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
55. How is it? I get so riled up reading NF like Naomi's books too. We must stop the Oligarch's war on
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 07:29 PM
Mar 2016

Life, for our kid's and the earth's sake.

mikeysnot

(4,756 posts)
75. Frustrating.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 02:26 PM
Mar 2016

She wrote about all the protest in Canada regarding the original pipeline was going to go to the pacific through BC and was blocked by grass roots activism and the leadership of the First Nation people...

So they moved it to going through the US keystone XL... never heard on TV that even Canadian's didn't want it.

If you read Shock Doctrine this one will piss you off also.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
22. I am glad that at least SOMEONE knows
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 04:41 PM
Mar 2016

that the MOST important issue is our environment.
Like I always say, "There is no Plan(et) B."
We have very little time to remedy this, and I am certain that a devout capitalist like Hellary will not address it.

 

Herman4747

(1,825 posts)
26. Hillary supports fracking.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:04 PM
Mar 2016

Moreover, she doesn't lead when it comes to climate change; she merely follows.

 

Duval

(4,280 posts)
41. BF Skinner? Ewwww He put his own child in a Skinner Box.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:45 PM
Mar 2016

Just saying. Psychology major here in undergrad.

postulater

(5,075 posts)
66. That post is mostly about Naomi Wolfe.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 10:14 PM
Mar 2016

And I didn't see anything about excessive drinking or a post by SidDithers.

Did I miss something? Or is my ignore list showing?

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
67. Reply 82. I got a screen shot.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 10:25 PM
Mar 2016


whatchamacallit (14,001 posts)
41. Hmm... guess I'll try in this thread

Hi Sid, what's your opinion of Naomi Klein?

American support for these wars proves we're falling behind in math

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Response to whatchamacallit (Reply #41)Mon Jan 7, 2013, 05:24 PM
Star Member SidDithers (39,065 posts)

82. I didn't think much of her when we were at UofT together...

she seemed to be about self-promotion back then. Guess it worked out for her OK.

She was a writer, then editor of The Varsity. Heard her speak a few times.

I remember she used to be a bit of drinker. But that was twenty three years ago.

Sid

postulater

(5,075 posts)
69. Thanks.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 10:32 PM
Mar 2016

I missed it the first time through.

I don't hold somebody's college experience against them. I think we all have some done some experimenting at one time or another (for some of us it was one time AND another).

BlueMTexpat

(15,365 posts)
47. Well, I love Naomi Klein
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:26 PM
Mar 2016

but I would have respected her more if she stayed out of our electoral politics. Does she really want to see a GOPer in the WH?

I will agree to disagree with her opinion. If Hillary does get the nomination, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Hillary invite Naomi to provide some input about the issues that Naomi has written so beautifully about. Hillary is a very gracious person who actually solicits input from those who hold opposing views, listens, and learns accordingly.

Too many see that as a fault. I see it as a major strength.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
48. " Does she really want to see a GOPer in the WH?" Hell NO!
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:33 PM
Mar 2016

That's why she said vote for Bernie.

From Fracking to Keystone XL, Green Groups Face a Hillary Clinton Problem
http://www.forbes.com/sites/tomzeller/2015/04/17/from-fracking-to-keystone-xl-green-groups-face-a-hillary-clinton-problem/#4ffe1f3f4a9b

Oil And Gas Lobbyists Support Hillary Clinton’s Campaign
http://www.mintpressnews.com/MyMPN/oil-and-gas-lobbyists-support-hillary-clintons-campaign/

Hillary Clinton rakes in money from fossil fuel interests
http://grist.org/climate-energy/hillary-clinton-rakes-in-money-from-fossil-fuel-interests/

They aren't paying her off to help fight Climate Change. Hello? We need to wake UP.

Gary 50

(381 posts)
58. Didn't you hear Hillary say she is immune to bribes?
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 08:06 PM
Mar 2016

She takes the money and takes the money and takes the money and gives nothing in return. She is the first person in the history of the earth to achieve this miraculous state. It's almost like she's a sorcerer the way corporations can't throw money at her fast enough and all for nothing in return. It's a miracle, praise the lord! If you are a skeptic you might not believe her but she has that covered too. You see, she told us she never never ever lies. So all you Bernie supporters should be happy when it's over that there will be a "Goldmans Girl" in the white house.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
73. Proud to stand with Ms Klein. She is right. Clinton can't be trusted.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 02:47 AM
Mar 2016

That's the thing about weathervanes.

NNadir

(33,476 posts)
74. Tweet from me: The formula that Bernie Sanders proposes to address climate change...
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 10:58 AM
Mar 2016

...is more of the same, which is failing big time.

We spent two trillion dollars in the last 10 years on so called "renewable energy," tore up huge sections of China to isolate exotic metals, including extremely toxic cadmium - 10% of Southern China's rice crop is now badly contaminated with this metal - and so called "renewable energy" in the form of solar and wind does not produce 5 of the 560 exajoules of energy humanity consumes each year.

2015 was recorded - once the data is finalized - as either the worst year ever observed for increases in carbon dioxide, or the second worst.

Bernie Sanders' State - which did not dump a single molecule of carbon dioxide to generate electricity for decades - now is dependent on electricity provided by dangerous natural gas.

To suggest that Bernie Sanders will learn enough epidemiology, chemistry, physics and engineering knowledge to adjudge nuclear energy in a realistic and fair way is absurd. Nothing in his career shows any level of having a clue on this topic.

Nuclear energy need not be perfect, without risk, and without cost to be superior to everything else. It only needs to be superior to everything else, which it is.

The efforts on the left to deny these simple facts is our creationism frankly. We are making the situation worse, not better.

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