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Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:58 PM

Clinton To Voter: Why Don't You Go Run For Something

Why Don't You Go Run For Something




Hillary Clinton was involved in brief confrontation with a young woman during a campaign stop in Minnesota Tuesday afternoon as voters headed to the polls to cast their ballot in the state’s primary.

The Democratic presidential front-runner was leaving a coffee shop when an unidentified Somali-American asked Clinton to comment on past racial remarks, including her recently retracted “super-predator” speech, and the lack of diversity among elected officials.

Clinton went on to reference Abdi Warsame, the first Somali-American elected to the Minneapolis City Council, which the woman questioned, arguing he lacked authenticity.


AAs are fleeing Hillary's campaign in droves. She is having a difficult time now explaining her past position on policies that have gravely harmed the AA community.

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Reply Clinton To Voter: Why Don't You Go Run For Something (Original post)
sabrina 1 Mar 2016 OP
nichomachus Mar 2016 #1
arcane1 Mar 2016 #10
TheBlackAdder Mar 2016 #31
senz Mar 2016 #58
onehandle Mar 2016 #2
DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #8
nichomachus Mar 2016 #16
DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #29
kristopher Mar 2016 #34
DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #35
sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #36
AgingAmerican Mar 2016 #59
NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #28
sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #38
NastyRiffraff Mar 2016 #41
Kittycat Mar 2016 #3
Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #4
Punkingal Mar 2016 #6
Nanjeanne Mar 2016 #5
polly7 Mar 2016 #23
hifiguy Mar 2016 #25
JI7 Mar 2016 #7
timlot Mar 2016 #9
DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #12
timlot Mar 2016 #15
DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #19
sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #32
sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #39
NWCorona Mar 2016 #13
sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #14
KingFlorez Mar 2016 #18
Freaked Out Mar 2016 #45
Maedhros Mar 2016 #11
KingFlorez Mar 2016 #17
bettyellen Mar 2016 #54
NCTraveler Mar 2016 #20
sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #30
NCTraveler Mar 2016 #33
sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #42
Post removed Mar 2016 #21
Chitown Kev Mar 2016 #22
NWCorona Mar 2016 #27
hifiguy Mar 2016 #24
Renaissance Man Mar 2016 #26
Hekate Mar 2016 #37
sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #40
polly7 Mar 2016 #43
wysi Mar 2016 #44
ismnotwasm Mar 2016 #46
AgingAmerican Mar 2016 #60
sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #47
wysi Mar 2016 #49
zappaman Mar 2016 #52
bettyellen Mar 2016 #55
Number23 Mar 2016 #56
bettyellen Mar 2016 #57
Number23 Mar 2016 #62
bettyellen Mar 2016 #61
rbrnmw Mar 2016 #48
George II Mar 2016 #50
Buzz cook Mar 2016 #51
nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #53

Response to sabrina 1 (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:00 PM

1. That haughty look on Mrs. Clinton's face is frightening.

That must be the look she uses when she's forced to actually talk to peasants.

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Response to nichomachus (Reply #1)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:06 PM

10. At least she's not trying to fall backwards to escape this time.

 

Maybe she finds black women less scary than black men

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Response to arcane1 (Reply #10)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:34 PM

31. To which is said "But I don't have a Presidential Husband to ride the coattails of"

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Response to nichomachus (Reply #1)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 10:34 PM

58. She always looks that way when talking to AAs.

 

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Response to sabrina 1 (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:01 PM

2. Exit polls today have Hillary winning 80%+ of the AA vote.

Maybe they didn't see your post.

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Response to onehandle (Reply #2)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:05 PM

8. +1

lol

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Response to onehandle (Reply #2)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:14 PM

16. They are as free as anyone else to vote against their best interests.

Republicans have been doing it for years.

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Response to nichomachus (Reply #16)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:28 PM

29. Yes, because you are so intimately involved with them

They are as free as anyone else to vote against their best interests.



Yes, because you are so intimately involved with them and their community that you know where their interests lie better than they do.

As a white person I am glad I don't embrace such paternalistic thinking.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #29)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:41 PM

34. What a bizarre attitude.

So according to you, no one is permitted an opinion on the state of anyone else's well being unless they are a member of that group as defined by you.

Press on with your beliefs, please.

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Response to kristopher (Reply #34)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:47 PM

35. I would hope you stand with me against paternalism and robbing people of color of agency.


I would hope you stand with me against paternalism and robbing people of color of agency. But as I said in our conversation last night I have neither the desire nor inclination to compel others to accede to my point of view.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #35)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:58 PM

36. If you are against paternalism which I certainly am, then how can you be a supporter

of a woman whose powerful friends, backers, war buddies could not be MORE Paternalistic. Do you know that the world views neocon FPs, Hillary's FPs as anti Africans and Brown people, anti Women who suffer horrendously from those horrific policies, yet Hillary tries so hard to be APPROVED of by these MEN who Rule the World??

See Kissinger eg, no more Paternalistic War Criminal can be found right now yet she views him as a mentor.

As a woman there is no way I can SAY I am a Feminist or supporter of the rights of minorities, and also support Colonialist Paternal, mostly men let's face it, War Mongers and their policies.

Why I support the real Feminist and Civil Rights supporter in this race.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #29)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 10:43 PM

59. We can have opinions, and state them too

 

Stop being to paternalistic...

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Response to onehandle (Reply #2)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:26 PM

28. ...

Thread win!!!

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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #28)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 07:00 PM

38. Ugh, such an old, probably 'nineties era meme 'Thread Win'. And of course it was nothing of the

kind as they rarely were.

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Response to onehandle (Reply #2)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 07:10 PM

41. Heh. +1,000

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Response to sabrina 1 (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:02 PM

3. Missing from the article...

Clinton responded good, then laughed at the woman, and continued as she walked off. It was shameful for someone running for president.

I didn't watch the video at the link, but did watch the YouTube linked elsewhere a bit ago.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:03 PM

4. Condescending / entitled / elitist

 

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Reply #4)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:04 PM

6. You got that right!

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Response to sabrina 1 (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:04 PM

5. How condescending can this woman be?

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Response to Nanjeanne (Reply #5)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:23 PM

23. So distasteful to watch.

I don't think she could be more condescending - and it's just so easy and funny to her.

I'd say more, but .....

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Response to Nanjeanne (Reply #5)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:24 PM

25. Wait a while, she'll top that.

 

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Response to sabrina 1 (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:04 PM

7. "AAs are fleeing Hillary's campaign in droves."

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Response to sabrina 1 (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:05 PM

9. Umm No, I'm black...

 

and just voted for Hillary at my local elementary school. These young militant black folks need to stop harassing her. What she said was right imo. Some young black folks in the "hood" have no regard for other folks property or lives. I've seen it first hand. Yeah yeah they just don't like that this privilege white women said it.

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Response to timlot (Reply #9)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:09 PM

12. I want her to listen to everybody's grievances.

That way we can reach common ground and move forward.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #12)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:13 PM

15. There is no common ground with these BLM types...

 

I've seen this playbook. This is the "come up" for these confrontations. Next week this young lady will be on MSNBC trying to make a name for herself.

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Response to timlot (Reply #15)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:20 PM

19. You have two dynamics.

This story is on top of the Drudge Report, that should tell you something. I went there to see if he had leaked exit polls.

Regardless, you have young African Americans challenging HRC on her civil rights record as is their right. Ain't none of us perfect.

You also have forces on the right and some parts of the left whose interests are inimical to Hillary Clinton and are trying to create separation between her and the African American community. IMHO, it won't work.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #19)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:37 PM

32. I agree with you re people tryiing to create separation. From the start of Sanders campaign

a small contingency of Hillary supporters here conducted a disgusting campaign USING AAs against Sanders. It was RACIST and divisive and a few of them are still pursuing that tactic. I wonder, did you ever admonish those people who claimed to speak for ALL AAs and who called Bernie and his supporters here, some of them AAs themselves RACIST"

Maybe you did, but I don't recall that at all. And now I am happy to see that those dividers are being told NOT to speak for other AAs they are perfectly capable of speaking for themselves.

The truth is Hillary has a horrendous record on Civil Rights which is why I suppose her supporters were trying so desperately to cover for that while attacking Sanders and his supporters, many of whom as I said, are AAs themseolves.

It was and still is ugly to watch.

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Response to timlot (Reply #15)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 07:05 PM

39. 'These BLM types' Okay, it's okay with you then that AAs are being murdered by cops at a rate not

seen in HISTORY of any civiized nation? You don't think 'these BlM types' have a reason to be upset. Are you aware eg, that Somalia, another one of our disastrous, for the Africans who live there, Colonial 'interventions' and that it's likely that woman has lost loved ones to our racist wars and racist interventions?

It must be nice to be able to sit in judgement of those who are suffering, who have a reason to be angry. But frankly I am surprised there isn't more anger from the victims of neocon policies fully supported by Clinton.

All that is hapening is that people ARE challenging neocons and their policies and I for one, am glad since I do not support, as a Democrat, those disastrous, cruel for-profit interventions.

Maybe Hillary could have engaged her, listened to her grievances, as a Somalian she sure has some legitimate cause.

Okay, I'll just assume that BLM is FINE when it appears to be, though I haven't seen it lately, supportive of HC but NOT okay when it questions our policies.

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Response to timlot (Reply #9)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:11 PM

13. The nerve of BLM complaining that kids were locked

Up for life over non violent crimes while Hillary profited of their plight.

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Response to timlot (Reply #9)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:13 PM

14. And that's fine, you speak for yourself regardless of ethnicity or religion. What many AAs are so

angry about is the arrogance of Hillary supporters who from the beginning have CLAIMED to speak for ALL AAs. 'She has the Black Vote'. Many people pointed out to these Hillary supporters, from all backgrounds, that this in itself is Racist.

Just saying 'I'm Black' does NOT mean you speak for millions of other people.

I am glad to see that AAs are making THEIR feelings known, those who choose NOT to support Hillary who are growing in number every day.

She does not 'have the Black vote' nor she have the 'Latino vote' who also are making THEIR feelings known regarding this kind of campaigning. No group of people is monolithic none, and that effort to paint all AAs as 'Hillary supporters' was and is reprehensible and racist in itself and people are now letting her know that they will speak for themselves.

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Response to timlot (Reply #9)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:17 PM

18. Exactly

These are the people who talk, but never show up to vote in midterms. There is plenty of talk out there, but very little action. Everyone just wants to go viral.

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Response to timlot (Reply #9)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 07:15 PM

45. I feel sorry for you.

 

You voted against your best interest. I am just gobsmacked that you are a minority and voted a path to a racist President.

That's right. Voting for Clinton equals a Trump Presidency. There is no other alternative.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:06 PM

11. Hey Hillary: why don't you NOT? [n/t]

 

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Response to sabrina 1 (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:15 PM

17. Actions speak louder than words

Clinton really isn't to blame for the lack of diversity among elected officials, that's a structural problem that no one person is to blame for. More minorities do need to run for office to institute change.

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Response to KingFlorez (Reply #17)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 08:53 PM

54. Yeah, I think it is interesting this is Hillary's fault when she has done more to promote diversity

 

in politics than anyone else running for president. It really seems like people think it just takes a magic wand to do things.
It is disheartening. I hope she does start thinking about getting involved in local politics.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:21 PM

20. "AAs are fleeing Hillary's campaign in droves."

 

Amazing that this is wishful thinking around here. With it being factually incorrect that is what it is.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #20)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:29 PM

30. And what is 'Hillary has the Black vote' to you? I found it racist from the start, to arrogantly

lump all AAs into one 'Hillary package' assuming they are 'all the same'. It is offensive, and now AAs are stating their own feelings about it.

And yes minorities, not just AAs are fleeing her campaign in droves.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #30)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:38 PM

33. I've said before that both candidates have to earn their vote.

 

Make all the accusations you want from the words of others. I'm good with it.

I have a great appreciation for the verbiage being used around here after SC. Some things are worse than I thought they were. Transparency is always good.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #33)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 07:11 PM

42. Yes, no candidate should be a 'presumed Front Runner' and that was the problem from

the beginning. We were TOLD 'this is your candidate' and frankly, for me, that was simply unacceptable in a democracy.

But we agree that ALL candidates must EARN votes which is why I totally and competely regject the 'hold your nose and vote' tactic that many of us have sadly, participated in for far too long, giving us the Corporate controlled Govt we now have. I admit my part in causing this to happen.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:21 PM

22. I did not vote for Hillary Clinton...

but I don't disagree with her advice to the young lady here either and, hopefully, she WILL run for office at some point in the future.

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Response to Chitown Kev (Reply #22)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:26 PM

27. While I agree that it wasn't the words but the tone.

And this isn't the first time.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:23 PM

24. I repeat, the common touch of Marie Antoinette,

 

the humility of Napoleon and the ethics of Richard Nixon.

She is a person of many parts, truly.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:25 PM

26. The young lady's response should have been ...

The young lady's response should have been:

"Well, gee Hillary. Lloyd's been avoiding my calls, and Jamie's yachting in UK. You think you could get them on the line for me?"

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Response to sabrina 1 (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:59 PM

37. Good advice for a young woman: get into politics early.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #37)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 07:07 PM

40. Good response IF that had been the topic which it wasn't. What it was

was an attempt to deflect, rather arrogantly, from the legitimate question the woman asked. Do you think people fall for responses such as yours? They don't.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #40)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 07:12 PM

43. Yeah ....... that was lame. nt.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 07:13 PM

44. Fleeing in droves, eh?

Evidence?

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Response to wysi (Reply #44)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 07:28 PM

46. There is no evidence.

Unless it's of the "Winning all 50 states variety"

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Response to ismnotwasm (Reply #46)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 10:45 PM

60. Look at polls going back six months

 

And tell us whose support is going well. She was ahead back then by 60 points.

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Response to wysi (Reply #44)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 07:29 PM

47. Yes, in droves. I will be posting something on that very subject, why Hillary is losing the minority

and the women's vote later. No question, as more is revealed and as more minorities learn that they have a choice, AAs and Latinos are switching from the Clintons to the person they believe will best represent their interests.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #47)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 08:04 PM

49. Just because you hope something is true...

... doesn't make it true.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #47)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 08:39 PM

52. Can't wait for your post!

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #47)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 08:54 PM

55. oh goodness, please don't make us wait for that OP!

 

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #55)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 10:29 PM

56. !!!

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Response to Number23 (Reply #56)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 10:31 PM

57. I need a laugh! Or another few Idris gifs !!

 

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #57)

Thu Mar 3, 2016, 03:43 AM

62. Did it get posted?? Did I miss it?? I've been waiting ever so anxiously!!1

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #47)

Wed Mar 2, 2016, 12:12 AM

61. Here are some fresh stats to help with your OP!

 

Gender Women 65 33

Race Whites 50 48

Blacks 83 15

Hispanics 63 36



Whoops!

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Response to wysi (Reply #44)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 07:30 PM

48. yeah fleeing in droves just not from Hillary

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Response to sabrina 1 (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 08:14 PM

50. "AAs are fleeing Hillary's campaign in droves."? Tell that to the AAs in South Carolina, Georgia...

...and Virginia, and most likely several other states tonight and in the coming weeks.

At least they're not fleeing Sanders' campaign, they never were there in the first place.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 08:37 PM

51. This

Clinton went on to reference Abdi Warsame, the first Somali-American elected to the Minneapolis City Council, which the woman questioned, arguing he lacked authenticity.


Clinton exhibits detailed knowledge pertinent to her questioner. Questioner rejects knowledge because...why?

I seriously doubt Bernie could name a local level African American politician outside New England.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 08:42 PM

53. Do not make the mistake of thinking AA are a monolothic group

 

they are not

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