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johnnyrocket

(1,773 posts)
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 11:47 PM Mar 2016

Everyone stop, just stop. Bernie is GOING NOWHERE...at all. It's 5 vs. 6 state wins tonight....

for Hillary...maybe 4 vs. 7 if MA falls out for Bernie, but in the next round of states, Bernie is ahead.

Also, in 2008 HRC was ahead against BHO on Super Tuesday also. Bernie is in great shape, and just getting started.

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Everyone stop, just stop. Bernie is GOING NOWHERE...at all. It's 5 vs. 6 state wins tonight.... (Original Post) johnnyrocket Mar 2016 OP
Yuge K&R! Bernie and his supporters are in this until July; the primaries are only just starting amborin Mar 2016 #1
Agree (but sure got mad at the Billy boy fiasco today in MA) bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #2
I'm deep in Sanders territory with saltpoint Mar 2016 #3
For you Blue_In_AK Mar 2016 #9
Blue_In-AK, yes, yes, yes -- and saltpoint Mar 2016 #11
I'm still in love with her. jalan48 Mar 2016 #30
Be careful what you ask for. passiveporcupine Mar 2016 #42
True. Politics can be an iffy saltpoint Mar 2016 #55
Wonder what they would have got if they had asked for dildos? demwing Mar 2016 #60
Winning states means shit. Delegates matter. Bernie is getting p0wned in delegates tonight. Codeine Mar 2016 #4
Not that p0wned. jeff47 Mar 2016 #13
Yes. Blue states give more delegates. He does not need as big of margins as HRC got in the MillennialDem Mar 2016 #29
Must not remember 08?! Armymedic88 Mar 2016 #36
When Hillary won Super Tuesday by 20 delegates? Codeine Mar 2016 #38
Look me up on the 15th... that's when the winner will be decided!! Armymedic88 Mar 2016 #39
Actually you are wrong davidpdx Mar 2016 #54
Clinton Supporters Duty To End The Drug War billhicks76 Mar 2016 #43
Lol, typical arrogant hillary supporter! Nt Logical Mar 2016 #57
Thank you 2pooped2pop Mar 2016 #5
And the same talk was present in 2008 nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #6
Clinton won that night by 20 delegates. Codeine Mar 2016 #10
That night had 50% of the delegates for the convention. jeff47 Mar 2016 #14
And she's carrying away an enormous chunk of those. Codeine Mar 2016 #15
He doesn't need to blow her out. Proportional results? What does that mean?! jeff47 Mar 2016 #16
He'd have to run the board. Codeine Mar 2016 #17
Again, no. jeff47 Mar 2016 #18
"don't seem to understand proportional results" my shiny metal butt. Codeine Mar 2016 #19
Lots and lots of places. jeff47 Mar 2016 #20
Well as much as I'm supporting Clinton Codeine Mar 2016 #21
Thank you for that Codeine Mother Of Four Mar 2016 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author agracie Mar 2016 #45
Yes ! 👍🏼 agracie Mar 2016 #46
Do you think Hillary won in the South because it is conservative? LOL nt BreakfastClub Mar 2016 #53
More conservative candidate does better in more conservative states....what a shock!!! jeff47 Mar 2016 #61
Do you think the South is not conservative? The entire region has legal discrimination against LGBT Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #62
This message was self-deleted by its author jg10003 Mar 2016 #7
Yes, and Bernie isn't under investigation either. Funny, I worked the polls today and had countless peacebird Mar 2016 #8
And he's not heading off to a D.C. fundraiser with lobbyists and SoapBox Mar 2016 #25
Which states will Bernie likely win going forward? Not sarc. Serious question. Jitter65 Mar 2016 #12
State of Denial? Stuckinthebush Mar 2016 #23
Bernie Sanders is a good man. Loudestlib Mar 2016 #40
Bravo! Oilwellian Mar 2016 #49
+1 meeeeelion aidbo Mar 2016 #51
I think he's likely to win most of the west coast aidbo Mar 2016 #50
Not being able to figure that out is problematic for you. Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #63
Rhode Island. Send your family there. nt lumberjack_jeff Mar 2016 #65
HRH seems to do well in states that are Thespian2 Mar 2016 #24
Yes. peacebird Mar 2016 #56
K & R & booyah! desmiller Mar 2016 #26
7 vs 4 actually. Clinton won Mass. brush Mar 2016 #27
how many delegates did hillary get tonight again?...... beachbum bob Mar 2016 #28
Less than the 24% total of all delegates in the US, that's for sure. retrowire Mar 2016 #34
Don't tell them facts retrowire Mar 2016 #31
We are here warrprayer Mar 2016 #32
The corporate media want this to be over. jalan48 Mar 2016 #33
No, they want it to drag out as long and as nasty as they can make it bhikkhu Mar 2016 #44
I don't agree about Bernie, Trump yes. jalan48 Mar 2016 #64
If that were true, Sanders would be getting coverage. He's not getting much. (nt) jeff47 Mar 2016 #66
Disney, comcast, clearchannel... Volaris Mar 2016 #47
Hillary went all the way Iwillnevergiveup Mar 2016 #35
Well,I can't take this shit much longer. nt DocMac Mar 2016 #37
K&R. JDPriestly Mar 2016 #41
K&R for exposure. And for truth. eom Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #48
Bernie said he is in this until June--as was Hillary in 2008. And I hope so! merrily Mar 2016 #52
Bernie will move ahead kgnu_fan Mar 2016 #58
Let's leave Sanders supporters alone! carburyme Mar 2016 #59

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
3. I'm deep in Sanders territory with
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 11:49 PM
Mar 2016

no intention of leaving. Send snacks.

Also I won't stop listening to Emmylou Harris. I would in fact question the very sanity of anyone who could stop listening to "Boulder to Birmingham."

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
11. Blue_In-AK, yes, yes, yes -- and
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 11:54 PM
Mar 2016

thank you!

She's a marvel. And she is very generous with dog rescue as well.

I'm smiling big time.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
4. Winning states means shit. Delegates matter. Bernie is getting p0wned in delegates tonight.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 11:50 PM
Mar 2016

You really think he's got huge, delegate-rich wins ahead? that seems delusional.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
13. Not that p0wned.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 11:56 PM
Mar 2016

The formula for delegates awarded to each state takes into account the recent general election results from that state. States that reliably vote for the Republican in the general election have fewer delegates per person.

For example, Texas has 2/3rds the population of CA. It has less than half the delegates of CA (222 vs 475)

Tonight is red-state-heavy. That leaves plenty of room to make up for having fewer delegates tonight.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
38. When Hillary won Super Tuesday by 20 delegates?
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:43 AM
Mar 2016

I do. She won by over ten times that number tonight.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
54. Actually you are wrong
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 03:18 AM
Mar 2016

Although she won 20 more delegates on THAT night, she ended up losing Super Tuesday by 17 delegates. The final tally was:

Obama: 849
Clinton: 832

It's also worth mentioning she went on to LOSE the next 11 primary and caucuses by 125 delegates.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
43. Clinton Supporters Duty To End The Drug War
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 02:02 AM
Mar 2016

And private prisons. How about doing that and maybe the people won't despise your campaign as much.

 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
5. Thank you
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 11:50 PM
Mar 2016

Sometimes we do get a little down. Its kind of like Bernie or the fall of America feeling. Bernie really is a hell of a guy.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
10. Clinton won that night by 20 delegates.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 11:53 PM
Mar 2016

She's going to have many, many times that margin tonight.

I say that as someone with a sense of arithmetic.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
14. That night had 50% of the delegates for the convention.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 11:57 PM
Mar 2016

Tonight has 20%.

I say that as someone with a sense of memory and a sense of arithmetic.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
15. And she's carrying away an enormous chunk of those.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 11:59 PM
Mar 2016

Where is Bernie's margin? What delegate-rich states does he blow her out in?

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
16. He doesn't need to blow her out. Proportional results? What does that mean?!
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 12:02 AM
Mar 2016

Again, there's still 80% of the delegates to go. You don't need a blow-out to win when that many are still up for grabs.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
18. Again, no.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 12:08 AM
Mar 2016

You really don't seem to understand proportional results.

Let's say Clinton's 51-48 lead in MA holds up. That means she gets roughly 3 more delegates (I'm not sure if the winner gets extra, that's based on percentage * 91 pledged delegates).

Where, oh where can Sanders get a massive blow-out to make up for those 3 delegates?!?!?!

The South is far more conservative than the rest of the country. Tonight's results are South-heavy. We're currently in the best races for Clinton. The rest of the country is not nearly as conservative as the South.

All of the media including superdelegates in the delegate counts is not serving you well.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
19. "don't seem to understand proportional results" my shiny metal butt.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 12:13 AM
Mar 2016

I'm not talking about three delegates. MA is essentially a tie either way. I'm talking about the huge delegate advantage she takes home tonight.

Where does he win enough to beat that?

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
20. Lots and lots of places.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 12:17 AM
Mar 2016

Again, the rest of the country is far less conservative than the South. And the delegate formula gives them more delegates than the South (the formula penalizes states that reliably vote for Republicans in the general election).

Which ones specifically? We'll see. Or we won't see. My entire point is this is not nearly as "over" as you are trying to claim.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
21. Well as much as I'm supporting Clinton
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 12:18 AM
Mar 2016

I'll happily color the Sanders circle if you guys can pull it out.

Mother Of Four

(1,716 posts)
22. Thank you for that Codeine
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 12:34 AM
Mar 2016

I was starting to get a little miffed (Though I try REALLY REALLY hard not to cause...you know...reasons) till I saw this response. It made me feel a whole lot better about tonight.

Thanks

Response to Codeine (Reply #21)

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
62. Do you think the South is not conservative? The entire region has legal discrimination against LGBT
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 11:11 AM
Mar 2016

It's conservative. They vote that way and their conservatism is demonstrated in their laws, such as the laws that allow discrimination or laws that lock the youth up for things that are perfectly legal in other places which are not so conservative. Some of the States Hillary won retained laws against same sex activity until 2003 when SCOTUS ruled those laws to be unconstitutional.

But your argument is they are not conservatives and all of that bullshit is delivered to them by nature or by God and not by their own actions?

Response to johnnyrocket (Original post)

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
8. Yes, and Bernie isn't under investigation either. Funny, I worked the polls today and had countless
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 11:51 PM
Mar 2016

People tell me they could not stomach voting for Hillary OR Trump.

People are saying this is a transformative election and they truly hope it will not be either of the expected winners on the ticket.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
25. And he's not heading off to a D.C. fundraiser with lobbyists and
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:21 AM
Mar 2016

hosted by a lobbyist for the NRA!

She's a real gem, she is.



http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/hillary-clinton-2016-dc-lobbyists-set-raise-cash-hillary-victory-fund-2327589

Hillary Clinton 2016: DC Lobbyists Set To Raise Cash For Hillary Victory Fund
BY ANDREW PEREZ @ANDREWPEREZDC AND DAVID SIROTA @DAVIDSIROTA ON 02/29/16 AT 6:32 PM

The Democratic National Committee’s recent move to end its ban on contributions from federal lobbyists was widely seen as a boost to Hillary Clinton’s campaign, which has ties to the Washington lobbying community. Clinton already appears to be taking advantage of the shift.

On Mar. 21, Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta and a handful of lobbying titans are scheduled to host a fundraiser for the Hillary Victory Fund, a joint fundraising account for the Clinton campaign, the DNC and 32 state parties. According to an invitation obtained by the Sunlight Foundation, Podesta’s co-hosts include Steve Elmendorf, Jeff Forbes and Susan Brophy — all of whom were government officials before becoming lobbyists at top D.C. firms. The event with Podesta — whose brother is a corporate lobbyist and fundraising bundler for Clinton — follows a recent fundraising blitz by Clinton in which her campaign raised money from financial, energy and other industries that expect to have business before the next president.

..continues at link above.

 

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
12. Which states will Bernie likely win going forward? Not sarc. Serious question.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 11:56 PM
Mar 2016

I want to be able to get my relatives working harder for Hillary in those states.

Loudestlib

(980 posts)
40. Bernie Sanders is a good man.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:54 AM
Mar 2016

He's spent his entire life standing up for people. He's in this election because he wants poor people to have better wages. He wants sick people to get treatment that doesn't bankrupt them. He want's kids to be able to start a life without a huge burden of debit because they went to college. He wants to keep our service people safe by not fighting wars we don't have to and if we have to he wants to make sure our vets are taken care of. He started his campaign with a we because if this is the kind of life that we want for our people it's going to take all of us.

Thespian2

(2,741 posts)
24. HRH seems to do well in states that are
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:21 AM
Mar 2016

meaningless to the Democrats in the General Election...because they will lose the heavily Repukkkian states...

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
34. Less than the 24% total of all delegates in the US, that's for sure.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:29 AM
Mar 2016

But if you want to claim this contest is sealed when it's only 24% done, by all means, go celebrate!

That's like screaming BINGO when only 3 numbers have been called out. LOL

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
31. Don't tell them facts
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:28 AM
Mar 2016

Facts are like water to a ducks back around here! lol

But WOOOOOOO FEEL THE BERNNNN

jalan48

(13,842 posts)
33. The corporate media want this to be over.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:29 AM
Mar 2016

Bernie's ideas are catching on and pose a threat to the Clintons, Goldman Sachs, Monsanto.....

bhikkhu

(10,713 posts)
44. No, they want it to drag out as long and as nasty as they can make it
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 02:13 AM
Mar 2016

Which drives ratings and money. And of course they'd like to be able to say at the end they were right all along, which earns points for credibility.

jalan48

(13,842 posts)
64. I don't agree about Bernie, Trump yes.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 11:54 AM
Mar 2016

If they wanted to drag it out with Bernie he would have been on more from the get go. There were big marches all over the country last week in support of him and there was a media black out about it. Trump, on the other hand poses no threat to the existing corporate structure so he's om 24/7 for ratings.

Volaris

(10,269 posts)
47. Disney, comcast, clearchannel...
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 02:37 AM
Mar 2016

Who else wants to play; this games fun!.

More fun will be if Bernie pulls a WH win
The fluffers for the MegaCorps will go on camera and lose their shit.

carburyme

(146 posts)
59. Let's leave Sanders supporters alone!
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 10:19 AM
Mar 2016

As a Hillary supporter who felt the pain of her loses in 2008, I can understand holding on to that last bit of hope. Mathematically possible or not Bernie is putting up a great fight and will continue until the very end.

See you all at the convention. I want to see this all played out and when it's all said and done, no matter how painful it is, I hope we all can set aside our differences and come together for whoever is our democratic nominee would be.

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