2016 Postmortem

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts) Wed Mar 2, 2016, 10:48 AM Mar 2016

Did anyone here sit out the 2004 general election because of John Kerry's vote for the IWR,

his support of NAFTA, his historical opposition to marriage equality, or for any other reason?

If so, any regrets?

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Did anyone here sit out the 2004 general election because of John Kerry's vote for the IWR, (Original Post) Nye Bevan Mar 2016 OP

LOL!!!!! MADem Mar 2016 #1

I like Kerry a lot. NCTraveler Mar 2016 #2

Again...Kerry is a male and Clinton is held to a different standard. LexVegas Mar 2016 #3

This message was self-deleted by its author Punkingal Mar 2016 #4

He voted for the resolution and stood against DECISION to use force when weapon inspectors proved blm Mar 2016 #5

Stop confusing us with facts, please. Orsino Mar 2016 #10

Or make a big deal out of his wealth? JaneyVee Mar 2016 #6

Didn't sit out bigwillq Mar 2016 #7

That vote may be why he lost. He could not draw a clear distinction. nt thereismore Mar 2016 #8

Phone banked GOTV for him .Not a perfect person, but better than Bush . No regrets except dem party lunasun Mar 2016 #9

K & R Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2016 #11

He was running against a man that lied us into war. A little different than now, ya think? jillan Mar 2016 #12

And he didn't have Sanders running against him n/t casperthegm Mar 2016 #13

Anyone but Bush. PowerToThePeople Mar 2016 #14

Well, unlile Hillary he is working at state in mainly purpose mylye2222 Mar 2016 #15

More to the point he did not get my primary vote nor much effort on my part, and he was no on DOMA Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #16

MADem

(135,425 posts)

1. LOL!!!!!

Reply to Nye Bevan (Original post)

Wed Mar 2, 2016, 10:50 AM

Mar 2016

John Edwards voted for that awful thing, TOO! Amazing how people managed to overlook his "sins" as well!

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)

2. I like Kerry a lot.

Reply to Nye Bevan (Original post)

Wed Mar 2, 2016, 10:51 AM

Mar 2016

I think he is currently in a great position and doing great work. One percenter is rocking it out at State!!!

LexVegas

(6,031 posts)

3. Again...Kerry is a male and Clinton is held to a different standard.

Reply to Nye Bevan (Original post)

Wed Mar 2, 2016, 10:52 AM

Mar 2016

She is held responsible for the crime bill, even though she didn't vote for it and Sanders did for Christ's sake.

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Punkingal This message was self-deleted by its author.

blm

(113,011 posts)

5. He voted for the resolution and stood against DECISION to use force when weapon inspectors proved

Reply to Nye Bevan (Original post)

Wed Mar 2, 2016, 11:21 AM

Mar 2016

force was not needed. Perhaps that has been forgotten.

Also - Kerry voted against DOMA. Perhaps that has been forgotten, too.

Also - No one can name ONE person in DC who has investigated and exposed more government corruption than John Kerry has. Perhaps that has been forgotten, too.

Anyone regretting a vote for John Kerry wouldn't be much of a student of this nation's REAL history and how positively he effected it over the last 5 decades, would they?

Orsino

(37,428 posts)

10. Stop confusing us with facts, please.

Reply to blm (Reply #5)

Wed Mar 2, 2016, 11:42 AM

Mar 2016

And don't bring up 2004 being only a year into those disastrous wars.

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)

6. Or make a big deal out of his wealth?

Reply to Nye Bevan (Original post)

Wed Mar 2, 2016, 11:22 AM

Mar 2016

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)

7. Didn't sit out

Reply to Nye Bevan (Original post)

Wed Mar 2, 2016, 11:22 AM

Mar 2016

And no regrets.

thereismore

(13,326 posts)

8. That vote may be why he lost. He could not draw a clear distinction. nt

Reply to Nye Bevan (Original post)

Wed Mar 2, 2016, 11:23 AM

Mar 2016

lunasun

(21,646 posts)

9. Phone banked GOTV for him .Not a perfect person, but better than Bush . No regrets except dem party

Reply to Nye Bevan (Original post)

Wed Mar 2, 2016, 11:40 AM

Mar 2016

They should have pushed back on the swiftboating
Repukes will have some more crap this time too

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,741 posts)

11. K & R

Reply to Nye Bevan (Original post)

Wed Mar 2, 2016, 11:42 AM

Mar 2016

jillan

(39,451 posts)

12. He was running against a man that lied us into war. A little different than now, ya think?

Reply to Nye Bevan (Original post)

Wed Mar 2, 2016, 11:56 AM

Mar 2016

casperthegm

(643 posts)

13. And he didn't have Sanders running against him n/t

Reply to jillan (Reply #12)

Wed Mar 2, 2016, 11:58 AM

Mar 2016

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)

14. Anyone but Bush.

Reply to Nye Bevan (Original post)

Wed Mar 2, 2016, 12:04 PM

Mar 2016

We had a regime of war crimals who were in office through a partisan court ruling.

Any candidate with a chance of wining would have had my vote.

mylye2222

(2,992 posts)

15. Well, unlile Hillary he is working at state in mainly purpose

Reply to Nye Bevan (Original post)

Wed Mar 2, 2016, 12:06 PM

Mar 2016

to bring peace. He is not using SD for personal career improvement and private interests donatiins. That is a big difference.

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)

16. More to the point he did not get my primary vote nor much effort on my part, and he was no on DOMA

Reply to Nye Bevan (Original post)

Wed Mar 2, 2016, 12:12 PM

Mar 2016

by the way, historically he has supported but in that election he hedged hence the 'not much effort' in the general. I would also point out that John Edwards was a very eager co-sponsor of IWR and I opposed him as VP and then as candidate and boy was I right.
Another important fact, John Kerry and John Edwards lost to Bush and Cheney. In spite of people like me voting for them anyway, they lost. Meaning I made a compromise for them and yet they did not deliver the fucking goods, thus making my own choices moot.
I'm not fond of that sort of election. Are you?

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