Hillary Clinton is Comfortable in Black Spaces

[MrWendel]

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/3/2/1494392/-Hillary-Clinton-is-Comfortable-in-Black-Spaces?_=2016-03-02T02:56:09-08:00

By Bravenak


Hillary kicking it with black folks again.

Hillary Clinton has a particular ease of manner in Black Spaces. She is the type of person one might find at a Black church, school, function, rally, a prayer circle, or comforting black mothers of sons and daughters lost through gun violence. The grieving mothers of several of our nation's lost black children found a bit of comfort in the company of the former First Lady and Secretary of State.

Why am I saying this?

Well, I am a bit surprised at all of the surprise over Hillary's big win with black voters this Super Tuesday. I suppose I should have expected it, but still, why would anyone have thought his numbers would improve with us very much after such a resounding defeat in S.C.?

So, before we dissolve into a mess of slurs and slanderous statements about how mean and horrible us black people are, or start talking Stockholm Syndrome talk and all that jazz, let us notice one thing that might help us understand why Black people are comfortable voting for Hillary. Hillary Clinton is comfortable in black spaces. She is comfortable in minority spaces, period. She is always around.

Her ability to show that she is perfectly fine in a room filled with people of color, in a black church, is one good indication of why we are comfortable back. Most politicians have trouble in dealing with us directly, they find it difficult to not come off patronizing, to come into our spaces and have a meal and a chat. Hillary will come to us, come to church, to funerals, hug our kids and kiss our babies.

In contrast, when Bernie showed up at church with Ben Jealous, I felt uncomfortable watching him look so uncomfortable and out of place. He did not even eat a bite. That was telling to many of us. Not a bite passed his lips! I felt a bit offended and I ain't even cook it. (I am an atheist but even I know you have to eat and compliment the cook for goodness sakes!) It was a test and he failed.

I say this not as a person who is in love with Hillary, or as a person who wants to pressure anyone else to vote my way. Or even as a person who is opposed to Bernie; I'd vote for him if he won the primaries.

But the next time you find yourself wondering, "Why are blacks voting HILLARY?", remember how comfortable she is in OUR spaces. I mean, we CAN tell, ya know?

[LexVegas]

1. MUCH more so than Sanders. You can see and feel it. nt

[DCBob]

2. That's a very good way to put it... "comfortable in 'Black Spaces' "

That is probably why Blacks feel comfortable with her.

[auntpurl]

3. I suspect this thread will devolve quickly.

I will say that one of the reasons I really like Hillary is that I find her very authentic. When she's mad, she looks mad. When she's happy, it's obvious. When she's tired or sad, she puts on a strong face but you can still see the human being behind it. I trust her.

[Ron Green]

5. I don't see what you see.

"Authentic" is probably the last word l would use to describe Hillary Clinton.

[notadmblnd]

4. As long as she views them as a bunch of harmless old men she's comfortable

Here, not so much.

[JaneyVee]

26. She actually looks very comfortable there as well.

[NWCorona]

39. This!

[NWCorona]

6. That's if she isn't challanged.

That said. I don't think she's anti black as other Bernie supporter's. Maybe that's because I am black.

[2pooped2pop]

18. Why compare her to supporters?

Compare candidate to candidate if you need to compare. Her policies are not pro black. She uses them for elections. She's a player.

[NWCorona]

21. I don't get why black Hillary supporter's whine about Bernie's white supporter's

But if a black one does it's crickets.

[Jitter65]

32. I don't think those "whine"(s) are coming from black HRC supporters. Blacks don't whine..they act.

[NWCorona]

36. That might be true of some

And I'm not saying that they don't have a right to express their opinion. I just notice a lot of crickets when a fellow black Bernie supporter tries to engage and I don't mean this forum exclusively.

[Orsino]

7. I am comfortable with threads imagining how comfortable someone else is.

Or uncomfortable.

I won't completely dismiss the OP, because perceptions are, after all, a big part of why we vote for particular candidates.

[Cheese Sandwich]

8. This is the biggest LOL I've seen

[MrWendel]

9. SCOREBOARD.

[Cheese Sandwich]

10. Bye Felica yourself

Putting a black power fist in a Hillary Clinton logo is some of the funniest shit I've ever seen.

If you really do feel like those things go together, hey I respect your ideas, but to me it's super funny. Sorry.

[MrWendel]

17. Considering...

your base is only White men, you have allot more to worry about then that logo. But hey, whatever helps you cry to sleep at night.

Now...

[Cheese Sandwich]

20. Hillary Clinton = Black Power! LOLOLOL

[MrWendel]

23. After Super Tuesday?

you got that right.

[MrWendel]

35. Nope...

guess they are THE Revolution.

[notadmblnd]

41. If Hillary wins the GE, she'll abandon her black base so fast it'll make your head swim

Mark my words.

And remember, no whining about it- cause black people don't whine, they act.

[NWCorona]

38. How about when she kept Rosa Parks at the back of the bus on that logo

And some call Bernie tone deaf.

[MrWendel]

45. The people who...

voted yesterday? Those people?

[NWCorona]

46. No. The people like you

I see that you didn't address my point.

That said I do appreciate the response.

[MrWendel]

50. MY response...

was about Bernies' Tone Deafness. I see you share that with him. She was tone deaf enough to dominate the "Minority" vote.

[NWCorona]

51. I know Bernie you were talking about Bernie.

I didn't say that you said his supporter's.

So how am I tone deaf?

[NWCorona]

11. Question

How can Hillary be comfortable in black spaces when she has yet to attend an "open" Black forum to take questions from the crowd?

[Cheese Sandwich]

12. Hillary is afraid of all the common people. She can't face questions from any crowd.

[NWCorona]

15. That does seem correct.

[JaneyVee]

25. She was just in Harlem and SC 'corridor of opportunity' conference.

Do you guys even research before posting?

[NWCorona]

31. Can you provide a link

That shows that it was open to anyone and that the mic was open to all questions?

I'm not above saying I'm wrong on this point if so.

[NWCorona]

44. I took the time to look into your claim

And all of the press on that event talks about Hillary giving a speech with no mention of taking questions.

[oasis]

55. Hill will take questions from everyone, she'll take no shit from anyone.

Get used to it. She expects to be respected in return for the respect she gives.

[NWCorona]

56. But the facts run counter to that

It took 80+ days to take a question from her own press core and only because she was getting push back.

[oasis]

57. Hill's campaign requires her to stay on the move.

I've seen her out and about on her "listening tour" in small shops and cafes across the country. She engages many average everyday citizens and takes note of their concerns.

[NWCorona]

58. That's not an excuse.

[oasis]

59. I'm not making an excuse, I'm expanding your perception.

[noamnety]

13. Unfortunately the author of this article has no credibility.

Former quotes from the author about hillary:

"her pandering is obvious"

"After welfare reform my mom told me Bill was a shit and Hillary was worse. She's so bad at hiding it; I have no idea why she's thinks it's not noticed."

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It's hard to take someone seriously when they spend a year or two telling everyone how Hillary is alternately pandering for votes and writing off the AA vote - and then they come back to say the exact opposite.

The problem with supporters like this is that they reinforce the common belief that Hillary and the campaign and her supporters will say anything, whether true or not, to get her elected. It's exactly why there is mocking about "Camp Weathervane."

[Hiraeth]

40. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[demmiblue]

48. +1

[Cheese Sandwich]

14. Hillary is the Christian identity candidate

[sufrommich]

16. Judging from the posts in this thread

I think it's safe to say that some people have no clue when to stop digging.

[NWCorona]

27. Well when a post is crafted to elicit such a response

That outcome should be expected.

[BlueMTexpat]

33. +1!

[jillan]

19. There are 3 threads with the same exact post. Isn't this considered spamming?

[Agschmid]

24. No.

Lol, posting political opinions is *NOT* spamming. If you think it's spam alert on it to a jury, but dupes are allowed in GDP.

[Svafa]

22. She sure can set up a nice photo op. nt

[WDIM]

29. It is surprising with all the Black lives her Husband ruined...

The Clintons don't care if you are black or white, they will gladly shake the hand of anybody that will give them money and power.

[KeepItReal]

30. She's also comfortable at Goldman Sachs, Wal Mart's Board of Directors, private prison lobby groups.

Other than political patronage and positions on her staff, what has she actually done for African Americans as a community? (other than just showing her face?)

[Nye Bevan]

42. I give Bernie credit for trying hard,

and it is obviously ridiculous to suggest that he is a racist in any shape or form. But he obviously just hasn't been able to make that connection.

[msanthrope]

47. I think that's a fair statement. nt

[NWCorona]

53. +1!

[Nedsdag]

43. Chappaqua,N.Y. is a "black space"? n/t

[Vinca]

49. You mean Hillary's crib in the hood?

[HassleCat]

52. In all black spaces?

I'll tell you right up front, I'm a Sanders supporter. But I notice Clinton is very, very comfortable in a church full of black people who appear to be middle age and older. We see photos and videos of her in such crowds, and they love her, and she loves them, and it's all very warm and cozy. Outside the south, outside the church, outside the age group, it's not the same thing. Black support is not so nearly unanimous. She controls events to avoid confrontations with young black activists. It's a smaller version of the old "generation gap" we heard about in the 1960s, and it's not a big thing, and it's not going to help Sanders or hurt Clinton very much, but there is something going on there.

[Svafa]

60. This is an excellent point. nt

[Orsino]

54. Black people often less comfortable in Clinton spaces.