2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumDemocratic versus Republican turnout in Super Tuesday states vs 2008
AL, AR, GA, MA, OK, TX, TN, VT & VA
Republican Primary Voters: 2008 5,025,685 2016 8,307,884
Democratic Primary Voters: 2008 8,228,763 2016 5,557,243
Just shown on the screen on MSNBC
randys1
(16,286 posts)cemaphonic
(4,138 posts)But the Republican primary is a lot more heavily contested, so there's more drama and media attention. Also, I think Trump's naive populism, belligerence, and willingness to say stuff that most career politicians wouldn't touch with a 10-foot pole is bringing in a lot of people that otherwise wouldn't bother with the primary process.
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)Perhaps people are apathetic to the point that they do not think they make much difference. Perhaps they are right, especially when it comes to DNC vs RNC, all tied to big money and corporate America. But then there could be a lot of factors involved in these numbers this Super Tuesday.
aaaaaa5a
(4,667 posts)The second issue is that most of these races on a state by state basis were non competitive. I believe in races where both parties ran competitive races the turnout was about the same.
BernieforPres2016
(3,017 posts)So long to you.
aaaaaa5a
(4,667 posts)I only stated it was one of the reasons.
Clearly, if your candidacy is based on bringing in new voters, and turnout is down, and you are not winning.... you are failing at the task.
Why are some people here so offended by simple math?
TheDormouse
(1,168 posts)BernieforPres2016
(3,017 posts)I paused my TV this morning and put up the information straight off the screen from MSNBC. It was not posted to say it's Hillary's fault or Bernie's fault. It suggests to me that at least so far, Republicans are a lot more motivated to vote so far in 2016 than they were in 2008 and Democrats are less motivated.
There is obviously a lot of Republican hate for Obama in 2016, just as there was a lot of hate on for GWB by Democratic voters in 2008. The side that has been out of power for 8 years has been more motivated, at least in the primaries.
aaaaaa5a
(4,667 posts)Hillary isn't bringing in new voters either. Neither campaign is expanding the electorate or bringing in new people the way Obama did in 2008. This is a big potential problem for all of us.
Hillary's only advantage is that she is far less impacted by a lower voter turnout than Sanders is. And that is a big reason why she is winning.
The simple Math is neither campaign is inspiring the country. So far our primary season has been nothing but a get out the base contest. Not good.