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BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:29 PM Mar 2016

Democratic versus Republican turnout in Super Tuesday states vs 2008

AL, AR, GA, MA, OK, TX, TN, VT & VA

Republican Primary Voters: 2008 5,025,685 2016 8,307,884
Democratic Primary Voters: 2008 8,228,763 2016 5,557,243

Just shown on the screen on MSNBC

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Democratic versus Republican turnout in Super Tuesday states vs 2008 (Original Post) BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 OP
Terrible news and does not point to either of our candidates as which can resolve this randys1 Mar 2016 #1
It's definitely troubling cemaphonic Mar 2016 #2
It's a sad thing that participation is so down. What can you do? YOHABLO Mar 2016 #3
Bernie is not bringing in new voters. aaaaaa5a Mar 2016 #4
Yeah, it's all Bernie's fault BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #5
I didn't say it was ALL Bernie's fault. aaaaaa5a Mar 2016 #8
How many votes did HRC specifically get this time & how many in 2008? nt TheDormouse Mar 2016 #6
I don't know and am not going to dig up the info and do the math BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #7
To further add to my last post aaaaaa5a Mar 2016 #9

cemaphonic

(4,138 posts)
2. It's definitely troubling
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:50 PM
Mar 2016

But the Republican primary is a lot more heavily contested, so there's more drama and media attention. Also, I think Trump's naive populism, belligerence, and willingness to say stuff that most career politicians wouldn't touch with a 10-foot pole is bringing in a lot of people that otherwise wouldn't bother with the primary process.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
3. It's a sad thing that participation is so down. What can you do?
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:56 PM
Mar 2016

Perhaps people are apathetic to the point that they do not think they make much difference. Perhaps they are right, especially when it comes to DNC vs RNC, all tied to big money and corporate America. But then there could be a lot of factors involved in these numbers this Super Tuesday.

aaaaaa5a

(4,667 posts)
4. Bernie is not bringing in new voters.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 02:28 PM
Mar 2016

The second issue is that most of these races on a state by state basis were non competitive. I believe in races where both parties ran competitive races the turnout was about the same.

aaaaaa5a

(4,667 posts)
8. I didn't say it was ALL Bernie's fault.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 09:18 PM
Mar 2016

I only stated it was one of the reasons.

Clearly, if your candidacy is based on bringing in new voters, and turnout is down, and you are not winning.... you are failing at the task.

Why are some people here so offended by simple math?

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
7. I don't know and am not going to dig up the info and do the math
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 05:43 PM
Mar 2016

I paused my TV this morning and put up the information straight off the screen from MSNBC. It was not posted to say it's Hillary's fault or Bernie's fault. It suggests to me that at least so far, Republicans are a lot more motivated to vote so far in 2016 than they were in 2008 and Democrats are less motivated.

There is obviously a lot of Republican hate for Obama in 2016, just as there was a lot of hate on for GWB by Democratic voters in 2008. The side that has been out of power for 8 years has been more motivated, at least in the primaries.

aaaaaa5a

(4,667 posts)
9. To further add to my last post
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 09:24 PM
Mar 2016

Hillary isn't bringing in new voters either. Neither campaign is expanding the electorate or bringing in new people the way Obama did in 2008. This is a big potential problem for all of us.

Hillary's only advantage is that she is far less impacted by a lower voter turnout than Sanders is. And that is a big reason why she is winning.

The simple Math is neither campaign is inspiring the country. So far our primary season has been nothing but a get out the base contest. Not good.

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