$10 Million to Hillary, From Saudi Arabia:

[amborin]

As Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton waived restrictions on selling weapons to governments that "donated" heavily to her family foundation, making it her personal mission to ensure that $29 billion worth of fighter jets were sold to Saudi Arabia -- despite the concerns of foreign allies and others in the U.S. government, including her department's and her own criticisms of Saudi Arabia.

In the years prior to her becoming Secretary of State, Saudi Arabia had given the Clinton Foundation at least $10 million.

The maker of the fighter jets, Boeing, gave another $900,000 to the Clinton Foundation while Clinton was Secretary of State and working on the sale.

Those jets have been used by Saudi Arabia, with the assistance of the U.S. military, to kill many civilians in Yemen. The European Parliament has backed a ban on arms sales to Saudi Arabia. The United Nations has condemned Saudi air strikes that have killed civilians.

Click here to sign this petition to Hillary Clinton:

http://act.rootsaction.org/p/dia/action3/common/public/?action_KEY=12057

and this is from last week:

NY Times: Saudis Use Illegal Cluster Muntitions--Hillary Voted in Favor--More Quid pro Quo
New Report of U.S.-Made Cluster Bomb Use by Saudis in Yemen

By RICK GLADSTONEFEB. 14, 2016
The aftermath of a Saudi-led air strike in Sana, Yemen, on Sunday. Credit Khaled Abdullah/Reuters

Human Rights Watch released a report Sunday providing new indications that Saudi Arabia has fired American-made cluster munitions, banned by international treaty, in civilian areas of Yemen, and said their use may also violate United States law.

snip

If confirmed, the report could put new pressure on the United States over support for its ally Saudi Arabia in the Yemen conflict. The Americans have sold arms and furnished training and expertise to a Saudi-led coalition that has faced widespread criticism for what rights groups call an indiscriminate bombing campaign against Yemen’s Houthi rebels in nearly a year of fighting.....


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/15/world/middleeast/new-report-of-us-made-cluster-bomb-use-by-saudis-in-yemen.html



Critics have previously rapped Clinton for voting in 2006 against Senate Amendment 4882, which would have banned the sale of cluster munitions for use in heavily populated areas


LECTED OFFICIALS AND ACTIVISTS DEMAND CLINTON RETURN DONATIONS FROM ROGUE MILITARY CONTRACTOR
Textron bribed Saddam Hussein’s regime, and manufactures cluster bombs

Providence, RI: Various elected officials and anti-war activists are calling on Hillary Clinton to return campaign contributions from Textron, Inc. Textron is a Rhode Island-headquartered Fortune 500 conglomerate, from whose PAC Clinton took money in 2005 and 2006. Textron bribed the Hussein government during the lead-up to the Iraq war, and is a major manufacturer of cluster bombs, which yield high rates of civilian casualties.


http://providencedailydose.com/2008/02/21/hillary-and-the-arms-industry/

[kristopher]

1. Can you imagine the howling if Bernie has this on his record?

We'd hear nothing else for months.

[Triana]

2. Or Obama for that matter. n/t

[sabrina 1]

25. That's why her supporters have lost credibility. It's clear it's about politics for them.

[platitudipus]

51. My question is, is this going to be the new status quo?

If Hillary gets elected is the Clinton Foundation going to be the Fourth Branch of Government? How will she be able to separate donations to her 'charity' from legislation she passes?

[jillan]

3. There is a name for people that accept money for favors. If I use it, I will be banned.

[dana_b]

9. And money from a country

That could care less that most of the 911 hijackers from their country. Yes -
I'm using that because Saudi Arabia has been our "friend" that stabs us in the back and we just turn around and say "oops! I think I have your knife. Sorry!" All because of oil.

[Gwhittey]

36. And silly thing is

that it is not evening Oil the US uses, it all goes to EU. Hell that is what whole Syarian civil war is about a Gas line that was going to be built for Russia and Saudi did not want it as would cut into there oil trade.

As Bob Ryan would say "What if I were to tell you, Boeing, that all you had to do is give Clinton $900,000 and you would get $29 billion. Is that something you might be interested in?"

[leveymg]

10. As Nixon would say, if he were still with us:

?w=750

[sabrina 1]

26. I think the legal term is 'quid pro quo'

[revbones]

4. Good luck seeing a Hillary supporter respond...

The cognitive dissonance would be funny if it wasn't so sad.

[BainsBane]

22. I'm a Clinton supporter

And the donation is to a charitable contribution, not to Hillary's campaign or to Hillary personally. That charitable foundation is chartered in the US, subject to IRS scrutiny, rather than in the Caribbean where the federal government and US citizens have no ability to see where the money comes from.

[tom_kelly]

30. I could be wrong

but don't the Clintons have access to their Foundation to spend how they see fit - including on themselves?

[amborin]

32. that doesn't affect the fact that this reeks of conflict of interest;

[JDPriestly]

46. A charitable donation to a foundation that employed quite a number of the very same

people and family members who are now working for Hillary's campaign.

Charitable trusts and foundations are not always as focused on benevolent work as you might expect. Sometimes the benevolent work is an excuse for doing other less noble things like employing loyal friends while you wait until the time is right to run for the presidency.

Look at the list of those who worked for the Clinton Foundation. You will see all the friends of Clinton many of whom worked for Bill's administration and all of whom support Hillary in her political climb to the top.

I doubt that the Clinton Foundation is employing Bernie supporters. I bet there is not a one.

The Kochs also have family foundations.

The foundations do good work, but they also sometimes are used for other purposes that help the founders of the foundations and their families.

The money that is donated to the foundations is usually tax exempt.

Nice work if you can afford it.

It's hard to tell whether a foundation is really totally dedicated to its charitable work or whether it has other purposes as well.

It is unlikely that this is illegal. But . . . .

Full disclosure is helpful and if there are favors exchanged for donations to the foundation, then legitimate questions may arise.

[Uncle Joe]

66. Perhaps that's why State Department Investigators sent a subpoena to the Clinton Foundation

in order to record for posterity and praise them for their charitable work?

Clinton Foundation received subpoena from State Department investigators

Investigators with the State Department issued a subpoena to the Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton Foundation last fall seeking documents about the charity’s projects that may have required approval from the federal government during Hillary Clinton’s term as secretary of state, according to people familiar with the subpoena and written correspondence about it.

The subpoena also asked for records related to Huma Abedin, a longtime Clinton aide who for six months in 2012 was employed simultaneously by the State Department, the foundation, Clinton’s personal office, and a private consulting firm with ties to the Clintons.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/clinton-foundation-received-subpoena-from-state-department-investigators/2016/02/11/ca5125b2-cce4-11e5-88ff-e2d1b4289c2f_story.html

[BainsBane]

67. None of that disputes the charitable status of the organization

under US tax law. Since the subpoena is from State rather than the IRS, it would seem to relate to activities of a federal employee, not the foundation itself. In fact that point is explicitly made in your very article.

A foundation representative, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing inquiry, said the initial document request had been narrowed by investigators and that the foundation is not the focus of the probe. . . .
There is no indication that the watchdog is looking at Clinton.

Meanwhile, Bernie has received two letters of inquiry from the FEC in as many months regarding campaign contributions in excess of federal law. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/02/26/bernie-sanders-campaign-contributions/80999298/ That relates directly to him and one of the central arguments for his candidacy.

[Uncle Joe]

68. Neither of your posts disputes the central message of the OP and as for charitable organizations

some are true to the cause and some are just fronts for scamming money or used as vehicles to further political ambitions.

Unease at Clinton Foundation Over Finances and Ambitions

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/14/us/politics/unease-at-clinton-foundation-over-finances-and-ambitions.html?pagewanted=3&_r=2&hp&

[leveymg]

5. The low-info voters will hear all about it for the first time on TV during the GE

Last edited Wed Mar 2, 2016, 04:15 PM - Edit history (1)

Many may not be so sanguine about this as are most DUers.

[kracer20]

39. Good point.

The R's will hammer these "pay to play" tactics to no end.

[Politicalboi]

6. How do some here still support this shit

[sabrina 1]

31. It's getting harder and harder for them to try to excuse it. I guess people are now ignoring the

the attempts to excuse this kind of thing, no point in arguing with people who are invested in a PERSON that there is simply nothing that person can do that will stop them from trying to excuse.

[PonyUp]

47. She needs the money.

[AzDar]

7. Dear God... WHY are people supporting her?

[PonyUp]

8. Six Things Women Can't Do In Saudi Arabia

1. Go anywhere without a chaperone
2. Drive a car
3. Wear clothes or make-up that "show off their beauty"
4. Interact with men
5. Compete freely in sports
6. Try on clothes when shopping

http://www.theweek.co.uk/60339/eleven-things-women-in-saudi-arabia-cant-do

[tk2kewl]

12. they can vote now though...

incrementalism, - whats the rush

[liberal_at_heart]

20. Good one!

[angrychair]

13. Foreign women can sell them weapons though! NT

[Ilsa]

64. "6. Try on clothes when shopping"

"Does this burqu'a make my butt look big?"

[Cobalt Violet]

11. K & R

[NWCorona]

14. It always comes back to the foundation

[FlatBaroque]

34. The Foundation is the money laundering part of the Clinton enterprise. /

[ladjf]

15. Good points. But, I'm beginning to wonder if Hillary fans actually

admire here for being such a successful "benefactor" of the big business largess.

[VulgarPoet]

16. Let's not forget that Saudi Arabia is essentially the birthplace of Wahhabi Islam

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/saudi/analyses/wahhabism.html

For more than two centuries, Wahhabism has been Saudi Arabia's dominant faith. It is an austere form of Islam that insists on a literal interpretation of the Koran. Strict Wahhabis believe that all those who don't practice their form of Islam are heathens and enemies. Critics say that Wahhabism's rigidity has led it to misinterpret and distort Islam, pointing to extremists such as Osama bin Laden and the Taliban. Wahhabism's explosive growth began in the 1970s when Saudi charities started funding Wahhabi schools (madrassas) and mosques from Islamabad to Culver City, California.

[Dragonfli]

17. Simple questions, they are not rhetorical so if you have any of the answers, please post them.

1)How much money has this charitable foundation raised in the past ten years (tho any information on money raised during any year or any group of years would be helpful.)?

2) how much money goes to administrative costs in a year (and what is included by their definition of administrative costs)?

3)How much if any money is earmarked as a salary to each of the three founders of the foundation
3a) Bill Clinton?
3b) Hillary Clinton?
3c) Chelsea Clinton?

4) how many other paid administrators are there and what is their average salary?

5) How much money is spent each year on great works of humanity? (You may have to itemize this by the year I realize, please do so, as well as what the money is spent on)?

6) Why do we hear so little about what great work is being done?

7) considering the massive amounts of money raised what massive and expensive things are done on a regular basis?

8) what is the foundations current amount of cash on hand and why did flint not receive even 1/10 of the money raised by just this one donation in the form of filtration units and massive amounts of jug water available to many homes, as it appears the Foundation receives several 100 millions in donations and I've seen not one public service announcement to show all the good work and good will being generated by such a large and wealthy organization such as this charity and (Flint Michigan could sure have used a charitable foundation's water far more than words and a photo-op.

9) are the answers to these questions big giant secrets never to be revealed, for reasons never to be known, like the transcripts of speeches from the monetary predators that have been so generous in speaking fees directly in the purse as well as donations to this foundation?

Thank you in advance

[Kensan]

33. You can access this information online..

You can register with Guidestar.org, which has information related to exempt organizations. The most recent Form 990 filed by the Bill Hillary & Chelsea Clinton Foundation that you can access is for tax year 2013. There is generally a delay in uploading the most recently filed returns, since an organization this large would have filed for an extension of time to file.

There are specific disclosures inside the 990 filing about officer compensation and independent contractors. I will leave it to others to decide how the funds are being used, and the good works being done through this foundation. There is quite a bit of information available on this site.

As someone who works in a professional capacity, I have to abide by certain independence standards. I don't discount the benefits that Bill and Hillary have provided to many worthy causes through their personal efforts. It does cause me to pause at what appears to be conflicts of interest and pay-to-play deals using the Foundation as the vehicle to move money/favors. People tend to "see what they want to see" when it comes to defending their decisions. I'll leave it at that.

[ellennelle]

37. thank you for this

very much. and kensan, not just for the details, but for your carefully worded sentiments.

i both honor your reticence, and trust your honesty, and your concerns.

pause, indeed.

be well.

[erlewyne]

18. I'm voting for Bernie Sanders on the Ides of March !!!

You can't buy my vote. The only thing I have to do
is die and pay taxes. Money doesn't interest me because
I have social security that I paid for. Free things are
for millionaires. I pay taxes !!!

[Fuddnik]

48. I already voted for Bernie on the Ides of March.

Dropped my Florida absentee(s) off at the Elections Supervisor 2 weeks ago.

[erlewyne]

65. I'm jealous!

That would be so fun to say!

[zentrum]

19. And this is

….supposed to represent the Real Democrat of our Party?

Where are the transcripts? And now, where are the damn subpoenas?

[LeFleur1]

61. Please Go Back

to your hate spewing right wing cave. You are hurting Bernie's chances!

[zentrum]

62. Really?

This is beyond the election, beyond Bernie—it's about a type of financial quid pro quo that definitely warrants further investigation. I don't see how it's "hate" to say the 10M from the Saudis into the Foundation looks fishy when as SOS she worked to change the arm's sale rules. Facts accrued against HRC, based on her own record are not "hate" or RW. They're what any good Democrat (or citizen, actually) would want answers to.

Funny—your tone and insult don't sound like a Bernie supporter. Bernie wants corruption out—I guess all we Bernie types need to go back to our caves?

As Lee Fang at the Intercept says so perceptively—it's more than what any journalist and reporter can do. Only subpoena power uncovers this kind of stuff.

[dreamnightwind]

69. +1

[LeFleur1]

70. Without a Shred of Proof

I am a Hillary supporter. I have watched her work since she was in college. But I will vote for Bernie if he is the nominee. That doesn't mean I think he would be the best for the job. Just not as bad as the alternative. As always, those who CANNOT stand the fact that she's a force in the world, especially a force for women's rights, take any little bit and twist it against her. Innuendo is what forms the meme for most of the attacks on Hillary. Gossip at its worst. They delight in taking something pretty innocent (donations to a foundation) and blowing it into something bad. I wonder if Jimmy Carter is a crook and a thug because of the money his foundation brings in? The things said on here, not in support of Bernie, but to tear Hillary down in any way by saying anything, without a word from him to cease and desist, and doing it with Republican type attacks, makes him look bad, and worst of all, makes the Republicans cheer.

You say it's an insult to tell right wingers to go back to their caves. Maybe it is, or maybe it's just advice Democrats on this site wish the wingers (of any stripe) would take.
Bernie hits on Hillary's campaign donations at every opportunity. Yet, everyone knows that the Democratic party takes donations from corporations. Corporations cover their asses by giving to both parties. So why did Bernie decide, after twenty years, to take donations from the Democratic Party? Huh? For the money? And for loyal votes? For the opportunity he would otherwise not have?

One very big reason Obama has not been able to do many of the things he wanted to do is because so many Democrats (mostly young according to surveys) stayed home last election. They don't seem to grasp the seriousness of elections. This terrible, ugly congress is on them.

[Mufaddal]

21. She's the gun control candidate. Unless those guns are murdering Yemeni civilians.

Incidentally, her campaign manager is the co-founder of the PR firm Saudi is currently using to smear KSA human rights activists in western media.

The pay-for-play aspect of the arms deals while she was SOS is disturbing enough, let alone the purposes for which those weapons are being used. But then, hawks gonna hawk.

[BainsBane]

23. While you're worried about charitable donations from Boeing

Your own candidate supports hundreds of billions in taxpayer money to Lockheed-Martin for the F-35.

http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/24583-bernie-sanders-doubles-down-on-f-35-support-days-after-runway-explosion

You're upset the Clinton foundation, a charitable institution, accepts money from the MIC but somehow display no concern about your own candidate's support for hundreds of billions to pay for fighter jets, deadly not only in the bombs they drop but for the pilots flying them.

What is "disgusting" is apparently not the killing or the fact obsene of the taxpayer money go to the merchants of death, but the horror that one of those companies contributes to charity.

[KoKo]

24. Good Coordination with this: EU parliament votes for embargo on arms sales to Saudi Arabia

EU parliament votes for embargo on arms sales to Saudi Arabia

Motion ratchets up pressure on Riyadh over its Yemen bombing campaign but does not force European states to halt deals

Jennifer Rankin in Brussels

Thursday 25 February 2016 09.07 EST Last modified on Thursday 25 February 2016 09.09 EST

Nearly 740,000 people have signed a petition calling for an arms embargo against Saudi Arabia, organised by the campaign group Avaaz.

Alex Wilks of Avaaz said: “For too long Europe has profited from massive arms sales to Riyadh even while the Saudi regime crushed democracy and human rights across the Middle East. Today the European parliament listened to the people and have for the first time stood firmly against Saudi impunity. Now it’s up to capitals to heed this leadership and stop turning a blind eye to massacres in Yemen.”

---snip

MEPs have voted for a European Union-wide arms embargo against Saudi Arabia to protest against the Gulf state’s heavy bombing campaign in Yemen.

The European parliament voted by a large majority for an EU-wide ban on arms sales to the kingdom, citing the “disastrous humanitarian situation” as a result of “Saudi-led military intervention in Yemen”.
The vote does not compel EU member states to act but it does increase pressure on Riyadh, in the wake of criticism from the UN and growing international alarm over civilian casualties in Yemen.

The resolution also turns up the heat on the British government, which has supplied export licences for up to £3bn worth of arms to Saudi Arabia in the last year. The UK has been accused of direct involvement in the bombing campaign through the deployment of UK military personnel to the kingdom.

Saudi Arabia began bombing in Yemen last March to support the Yemeni president, Abd-Rabbu Mansour Hadi, who was under threat from Houthi forces aligned with Iran.

Richard Howitt, the Labour MEP who drafted the key amendment, said: “This is a clear humanitarian appeal to end the bloodshed in Yemen, and call on Saudi Arabia to pursue a political rather than a military solution to the conflict.”

Howitt, who is Labour’s foreign affairs spokesman in Europe, also called on the British government to stop selling weapons to Riyadh. “The UK is one of the biggest suppliers of arms to Saudi Arabia and needs to heed this call, which has been overwhelmingly supported across the political spectrum and by a vast citizen campaign,” he said.

An earlier draft of the resolution that named and criticised the UK and other EU member states, including France, Spain and Germany, was dropped. The final version said “some EU member states” had continued to authorise transfers of weapons to Saudi Arabia since the violence started, in violation of EU rules on arms control.

The motion was passed by 359 votes to 212, as a diverse coalition of Socialists, Liberals, Greens, Leftists and Eurosceptics overcame opposition from the leadership of the two main centre-right groups, including Britain’s Conservatives. A separate resolution calling for a ceasefire in Yemen was supported by a larger number of MEPs.

Under a 2008 code of conduct, EU member states promised not to sell weapons to countries where they might be used “to commit serious violations of international humanitarian law” and undermine regional peace and stability.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/feb/25/eu-parliament-votes-for-embargo-on-arms-sales-to-saudi-arabia

[Octafish]

27. Keeping our friends safe.

The fact someone profits from it has nothing to do with anything, so disregard those WikiLeaks.

[Cheese Sandwich]

28. Straight up bribery

[ReasonableToo]

29. $ to buy endorsements and superdelegates had to come from somewhere... [end]

[Herman4747]

35. It just gets WORSE AND WORSE AND WORSE!!! n/t

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

38. I'm sure she will frown, say "stop it", and return the loot....won't she?

Thanks. Today's my 72nd birthday so I can blame typing errors on old age.

[Herman4747]

40. Yeah, that's right, except for the "return" part

(By the way, it's up to you, but you may wish to edit your post to change "sat" to "say&quot

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

41. Thanks Herman. Today's my 72nd birthday so I'll blame my typing errors on old age.

[SoapBox]

44. Happy Birthday!

You don't seem a day over...50?

(I long for the day I was 50!)

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

45. Old age ain't for sissies. Bette Davis

[Herman4747]

53. Happy Birthday!!!

Have a great day!

[Fuddnik]

50. Happy Birthday!

Today's my Dad's 87th.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

52. Thank you.

I'm now at the point of waking up every day and thinking "Really??"

[840high]

58. Happy Birthday from

an older Bernie gal!

[SoapBox]

42. Dirty, dirty, dirty...

And "Democrats", even worse "Southern Conservative Democrats" continue to promoted and push her?

[kgnu_fan]

43. She is sold!

[kath]

49. Jeebus. Is becoming more and more clear that the CFound'n is a money-laundering operation.

[PatrynXX]

54. This is what I think when I think Hillary

prefer the FICTIONAL movie instead

[EndElectoral]

55. People don't seem to care about this stuff.

[Dont call me Shirley]

56. Because everybody needs more weapons, lots more weapons!

[Herman4747]

57. This part here is utterly MIND-BOGGLING:

The maker of the fighter jets, Boeing, gave another $900,000 to the Clinton Foundation while Clinton was Secretary of State and working on the sale.


Is Hillary corrupt, stupid, or both?

[840high]

59. +a zillion

She and Bill have gotten away with so much.

[jalan48]

60. From the people who funded 9/11? Despicable!

[nichomachus]

63. Foundation -- Money Laundering. Tomato -- tomahto. nt

[Cheese Sandwich]

71. Out in the open brbery

[olddots]

72. this information will not change the minds of the

" pragmatic , realistic , grown up , rational " greedy creating the needy .