What are Bernie's trade policies / plans to deal with global economy?

[MaggieD]

Today and often, Bernie tells us why we shouldn't vote for Clinton, and also why trade policies are bad. But for as long as he has been running I have never seen him say a word about how we deal with the global economy; how we decrease trade deficits; how we level the playing field for workers; how we address the reality that goods are made much cheaper in Asia.

Does he favor increased tariffs like Drumpf? Does he want to outlaw imports? Become an isolationist nation? If so, how does the US sell its good overseas, and why would corporations stay here if they could not do that? What's his plan? So far his plan seems to be to deny the reality that we live in a global economy.

IMO, Bernie is very good at telling us what is wrong, but not so good about telling us what the solutions are.

[dchill]

1. Google is your friend.

http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Bernie_Sanders_Free_Trade.htm

Keep on trolling!

[MaggieD]

2. All of that is about being against any trade - no solutions

But thank you for proving my point, even though that was not your intention. I will take it that you have no clue what his plan is to deal with the issues I pointed out. You're not alone. No one does because he does not have any plan.

[Katashi_itto]

3. Google to hard?

[RobertEarl]

6. Google is not her friend?

Bernie sure wouldn't be shipping our jobs overseas like someone we know is just itching to do.

[Katashi_itto]

9. Facts Are not her friend either

[MaggieD]

12. Well help me out - what is his plan?

Please educate me. Can't wait.

I know the blanket response is to pretend we're stupid. I am not stupid. You can pretend I am, but that is not gonna fly. Reality is that he has no plan.

Prove me wrong. I am willing to be proven wrong. Go for it.

[Katashi_itto]

20. Notice how her fingers are inoperative when it comes to simple searches?

[MaggieD]

21. Yes - none of you seem to be able to answer the question

Please, if it's such a simple search help us ALL out. Convince me that Bernie has an actual plan to deal with the global economy we ALL face beyond just saying trade agreements suck.

Because I can't find ANYTHING beyond him bitching about trade agreements. Please help. I beseech you!!!!!! TIA.

[Katashi_itto]

22. See post #20

[MaggieD]

24. That's just an excuse from you about why you can't answer

Please tell us, what are his solutions? I gotta think that you have no idea, because if you did wouldn't you just answer my question?

[Katashi_itto]

50. No, it's simply that like Trump followers, the information is there it's just ignored.

You do not accept good faith answers nor do you deserve them.

[RobertEarl]

16. Does seem that way

Bernie denial is a Yuuuuge problem on DU.

And low information voters. Where Bernie is well known, he gets lots of votes. Other places where it's like: Bernie who? Not many votes.

[MaggieD]

10. You can spend days on google but he has no plan

That's just a fact. And if you can find one and let me know I will be the first to apologize. Bitching about something is not a plan.

[dchill]

4. While it's easy to figure out Hillary's plans.

The opposite of whatever she says. I only prove that you are indeed trolling.

[MaggieD]

7. I'm asking about Bernie's solutions

I am well aware of Clinton's and they make sense. I can start another thread about that. But this one is about the fact that Sanders seems to have NO Plan to deal with trade and the global economy.

Any ideas?

[dchill]

11. You're asking a lot of questions in a lot of threads...

And Google is still your friend. And you are still trolling!

[MaggieD]

13. Nothing on Google - sorry

Please educate me. Can't wait.

I know the blanket response is to pretend we're stupid. I am not stupid. You can pretend I am, but that is not gonna fly. Reality is that he has no plan.

Prove me wrong. I am willing to be proven wrong. Go for it.

[dchill]

17. I found several entries...

Perhaps you misspelled economic or policy?

[MaggieD]

23. Links please

I will be forever in your debt. What is Bernie's plan to deal with the impact of the global economy, trade deficits, and cheap goods from Asia.

Because all i have heard from him is bitching about the problem. Zero solutions. I am looking for his solutions. What are they?

[JaneyVee]

5. He's gonna be upset when he finds out that...

Trade deals are negotiated and not just a bunch of list of demands that end in gridlock and trade wars. Seriously, how does he plan on growing the economy.

[MaggieD]

8. Exactly

Someone needs to tell him the 70's called and said they aren't coming back. That's really the problem with him. He lives in his own world and refuses to face reality on so many issues.

[JaneyVee]

14. Reality: Bill Clinton created 25 million jobs. Longest stretch of peacetime in US history....

Lowest black unemployment rate in US history. Nominated the 2 most liberal justices in US history. Raised taxes on the rich. And handed over a budget surplus.

[MaggieD]

15. Again, you are right!

It's amazing how smart and educated us Clinton Supporters are. Who woulda thunk it?

I feel like taking back the damn internet today with facts. Thanks for your post.

[redstateblues]

26. According to BSS it was an awful time in America

I call it political amnesia. The same way people forget what a mess Obama was handed and how much better this country is now because of him. Lots still to be done but let's keep it going.

[Armstead]

19. Reality is that we're all worm food eventually

None of this matters on a cosmic level.

Now that we've established the baseline of "reality" ...Can we start to look at ways we can make life better while on earth?

[MaggieD]

25. Nope - sorry

We live in today. If a politician is going to complain about "democratic" views on trade he should have an alternative. I don't think most voters vote on the candidate that is best at bitching about problems. They vote for the candidate with solutions.

Bernie seems to focus on telling us what is wrong and skips the part about how to fix it.

[YCHDT]

51. Yes, one of the reasons is women now work

[treestar]

18. I think it's break up the big banks and take down the

Establishment.

[RDANGELO]

27. The United states is virtually the only country in the world thant does not protect its workers .

If you don't do that, then there is no way that you can make substantial gains against income inequality. For instance , if you raise the minimum wage you can just lose more jobs to China with the lower wages. Protecting our workers is not necessarily isolationism.

[MaggieD]

32. How does that work when it comes to the global economy?

Please, school me.

[RDANGELO]

37. You can gradually bring the trade deficit into balance

thru negotiations with other countries. There is no reason for us to be running huge trade deficits. Do you honestly not see any relationship between trade policy and income inequality.

[SheenaR]

28. Been very busy today

Thread after thread asking questions. Getting answers. And then deciding those answers aren't good enough for you. It's been all day. Is there a point to all of this?

You don't care for or want the answers.

[MaggieD]

30. Which post in this thread describes his plan for trade and the global economy?

All I see is a bunch of Bernie folks deflecting the question. Please help me see the error of my ways. Which post did I miss that explains his solutions to this issue?

[SheenaR]

33. Maggie

I answered you in other threads when you asked for specifics. Your response? Silence

I'm not playing your game anymore. Come up with a snarky response it's cool. I did your bidding in the other threads.

[MaggieD]

48. Where? Link please.

TIA

[morningfog]

38. Your error is that you do not post in good faith. You have a

different motive. You do not accept good faith answers nor do you deserve them.

[MaggieD]

49. My motive is to expose his baloney

So tell me what are his solutions to the global economy and trade? Still waiting for ONE of you to tell me what he is proposing. Because all the American people have seen so far is him bitching about it with no solutions.

In case you were wondering this is a large reason why unions don't support him.

[whatchamacallit]

29. Here we go again...

What are Bernie's global plans to deal with the globalization of trade, globally on the globe?

[MaggieD]

31. I guess you don't know either?

[SheenaR]

34. It's a waste of time

And we have given her all the attention she has wanted all day. I'm done and hope everyone else will figure it out soon too with her

[MaggieD]

35. Scroll through this thread....

And ask yourself why not a single Bernie supporter on a site flooded with Bernie supporters can answer this question.

[morningfog]

36. Aren't you due anothe time out!? Spamming flame bait nonsense/

Guess you have to make up for lost time.

[MaggieD]

39. What's wrong with asking about Bernie's plan to deal with global economy....

And trade? He's made an issue of it, yet he only bitches about it. He has no proposals to deal with it. If you disagree, please tell me what those proposals are?

Is the status quo okay with his supporters? If so, why bitch about Clinton? What is his plan to save the day if he is elected?

[morningfog]

40. I can't remember which side Hillary is on today. Is she for or against?

She's is so inconsistent, I can't keep it straight.

[MaggieD]

41. This thread is about Bernie - why deflect?

I am more than happy to discuss Clinton's proposals. Links, the whole thing. No problem at all. But let's start with Bernie's. That is the subject of the thread.

[morningfog]

42. I proudly stand with Bernie bitching about the trade deals which Hillary supported.

Even as Hillary sometimes thinks trade deals she thought were the gold standard are not good or when she tells different audiences different things about the deals. I support the candidate that will not make it worse. Bitch on Bernie.

[MaggieD]

43. So you admit he has no solutions?

If he has no solutions why should I vote for him? He's been in government for 30 years and he has no solution to this issue? Who would vote for that?

[morningfog]

44. You shouldn't vote for him! You never would have!

He's doing just fine without you.

[MaggieD]

46. He's doing just fine? LOL!

Why is he losing then?

[morningfog]

47. He's doing just fine. Quick start another dozen posts before your next vacation.

[Jitter65]

53. Supporting a trade deal is not the worse thing in the world. All deals are not perfect and a knee

jerk reaction to trade deals until you find out how they are working is really immature and silly. Trade deals are what opens closed markets to our businesses. In fact they are what businesses, especially small businesses look to our government to negotiate on their behalf. Without them, many of our small businesses would fail. When partners to deals cheat it means that someone is not enforcing the terms of the agreements. Like any agreement, it can be negotiated. Now we can do lots of things to fix trade deals are we can have none at all.

To have none at all mean that international markets can close their doors to us period or it means that huge tariffs on our goods will make us virtually non-competitive with those that do have trade deals with each other. And it means that goods coming into our country (we are the biggest consumers on earth) will force us to put huge tariffs on them or the goods will be so cheap that no business here would be able to survive. Might be good for our consumers but you talk about a trade deficit. So the key is to make trade agreements with good terms and good enforcement measures...that's the rub. But to just dismiss trade agreements out of hand not good governance.

What you should know is that many, many businesses beg our government to make agreements on their behalf to open markets for their businesses. The really nasty part of the picture is that our corporations, not because they have to but because they want vulture profits, move their businesses abroad for the cheap labor and sell the goods back to us at ridiculous prices...Microsoft comes to mind. They could still make their products here, still make good profits, but the cost of the goods would be higher to consumers and you all would still be bitching about rising inflation and costs.

Thus we engage in trade agreements in which we try to level the playing field by imposing rule that level out wages, environmental controls, safety rules, worker benefits etc. on those trade partner that historically do not pay good salaries and benefits to workers and that do not have safety and environmental standards. An international body is set up to impose sanctions and penalties against trade partners that violate the terms of the agreement. We have won some and loss some. But the shit is complicated.

Until US consumers start putting the pressure on companies enjoying our consumer base to make stuff here, cut their profit margins, create jobs here and help our own economy things will not change significantly. But then, their stockholders will be bitching. Whom do you think they listen to? Most stock holders are concerned only with their profit. The social and economic justice and nationalistic issues never cross their minds. Really our economic woes begin in the corporate board rooms and stockholder meetings.

If we don't find wealthy icons willing to invest in manufacturing jobs here and take it on the chin with lower profit margins and find stockholders willing to invest for REASONABLE profits instead of VULTURE profits you will always have trade agreements we say we don't like but really don't understand. I encourage us all to read carefully the TTP and other agreements for understanding and then we can fight for the changes that will benefit us all.

[taught_me_patience]

45. Some vague plan about "fair trade"

He has no plan. His plan is to piss and moan about NAFTA for as long as he's alive. When it comes to actually having a plan to improve something, he'll disappear like he did in the Vermont single payor effort.

[CdnExtraNational]

52. Yesterday I answered a question like this with a thoughtful and complete answer...

Received crickets in reply.

Looking at this OP message history it appears to me that they have been equally thoughtful in putting together questions and memes and other campaign literature.

I have a question...

Are there campaign operatives here?