Courage: Fox News to hold Democratic town hall with Bernie Sanders in Detroit

[Barack_America]

Live townhall on Fox News the night before the Michigan primary.

After hosting Thursday night's Republican presidential debate in Detroit, Fox News Channel will turn to the Democrats, holding a one-hour town hall with U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont on Monday evening.

The event will be broadcast live beginning at 6 p.m. Monday from Detroit's Gem Theatre and will be hosted by Bret Baier. Sanders' rival in Michigan's Democratic primary the next day, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, was invited to participate by Fox but said she had a conflict in her schedule and would not attend.

http://www.freep.com/story/news/2016/03/03/fox-hold-town-hall-bernie-sanders/81290854/

[valerief]

1. Great!!!!

[RobertEarl]

2. Good for the people!

Hey, Fox, bring it!

[AzDar]

3. Bernie's got Wheels Of Steel... (American Steel, not the cheap FTA import...)

Go, Bernie... GO!

[MaggieD]

4. Of course - Repugs are dying to run against Bernie

And it's just sad that he will stoop to enlisting Faux News in his last desperate gasp not to get buried in MI. SMH.

[MelissaB]

5. Wrong! My Fox News watching MIL plans on voting for Sanders.

[MaggieD]

25. Oh well that proves something

Because of course all republicans love socialism. They've just been stealthy hiding it for 100 years.

Data is not the plural of anecdote.

[MelissaB]

35. She is in her early 80's, lived in NY, has voted Republican since I've known her, retired school

teacher, and is embarrassed at the Republicans running. She thinks Bernie makes the most sense. She's also too polite to say in general conversation what she thinks of the Clintons...

[BigBearJohn]

160. God love her. Thanks for posting this.

[UglyGreed]

171. And republicans like Ben Stein

love Hillary

[Qutzupalotl]

180. Bernie gets 25% of the Republican vote in Vermont, where they know him best.

That's why he's a stronger candidate in the GE.

[snowy owl]

110. I think Sanders appeals to a lot of GOP voters. They're tired of the BS just like we are.

But the left hasn't given them anyone to vote for. So they band around the those who give them emotional hugs and a place to complain. In a way, this is pretty daring of Fox but it won't change the math of the delegates much. Interesting. I wonder what is truly behind it?

[Bubzer]

117. I heard on the radio that fox news and some conservatives may be considering throwing the election.

Saying that throwing the election would be better than the damage trump would do to their party. I could have misheard... been trying to find it somewhere online and haven't found it yet... but I was sure it's what I heard.

[Barack_America]

125. They would rather have the Democratic candidate win than Trump.

And Sanders has a better chance of delivering for them.

If FoxNews ends up delivering a true progressive President, that would be so ironicaly awesome.

[dlwickham]

140. cool story bro

[Barack_America]

6. Or he believes FoxNews viewers deserve to hear his message too...

...but go ahead and try to justify your candidate's continued refusal to face the media.

[Lorien]

10. Or have a rally that EVERYONE is invited to

not just mega donors.

[ArcticFox]

24. Right on!

A different viewpoint could be good.

[MaggieD]

26. I am proud to support a real Democrat that says FU to Faux News

Just like Obama by the way. Shameful that Bernie will bow down to them out of sheer desperation. In my mind it shows how weak a candidate he is.

[Barack_America]

32. Yeah. That's a great defeatist attitude for America. Just ignore those Americans.

Lucky you for not having any "worthless" FoxNews viewers in your family. Not so lucky for this of us in the Midwest who tend to have plenty.

[MaggieD]

33. I am proud to support a real Democrat that says FU to Faux News

[MelissaB]

37. You're plugging that "real Democrat" thing tonight.

Is that talking point #34?

[Barack_America]

38. "Real Democrat".

Awesome. Seriously, that's great.

[MelissaB]

43. She's said it about a thousand times tonight.

[Bubzer]

77. Hmmm... a "real democrat" who lacks the ability to reach citizens on the other side of the isle...

A real uniter, that one...

[Cassiopeia]

102. If by the other side you mean the Democratic side

then I agree with you.

Hillary will work very well with the Republicans in the House and Senate. She'll be fighting for everything they want. War, tax cuts for billionaires, deregulation, and job/wage killing trade agreements. I have faith Hillary can get stuff done with a little help from her closest friends.

[Bubzer]

113. Oddly enough, no. I think you're right, she'll work great with the GOP. Corporations love them both!

But she has absolutely no draw with conservatives. Bernie, at least, has some cross over appeal. Hillary has a hard time even among Dems... let alone conservatives.

[virtualobserver]

78. she lacks the courage to stand up to the fox news people

[tex-wyo-dem]

98. Why do you keep repeating yourself?

[Bubzer]

118. I am proud to support a real Democrat who isn't too proud to appeal to ALL Americans!

[MaggieD]

120. Trying to tap into Republicans for Socialism, eh?

[Bubzer]

129. Trying to tap into some red-baiting eh? It's okay... hillary doesn't have to have cross over appeal

She's inevitable, remember... don't you have a GE to go prepare for or something?

[bravenak]

136. Maggie!!! You slay me!

Republicans for SOCIALISM, lolololol. Stahp!!

[Loudestlib]

138. A real democrat that "used" to a republican?

I support the guy that's not afraid of Fox News.

[libdem4life]

208. Give me a break. They debate...his numbers and money go Up and her popularity goes Down.

I'm thinking some of these corporate types may be getting a little nervous about their millions. Maybe they told her to sit down and be quiet...right after she told them to Cut it Out.

Desperation...he's starting to call her on her record...Oh Noes...No more Mr. Nice Guy, seems. But then, for the faithful group, recalling her record is akin to attacks and hating...LOL.

And I think it was amazing...Fox News...maybe they are learning how to be Fair and Balanced. Lord knows we haven't ever seen much of that. Bernie has no fears going to the competition...like Liberty University. He just tells it like it is, same-old, same-old and Enough is Enough. He really doesn't much care to whom or where he says it. That's Leadership, IMO.

[Autumn]

41. Like when Obama gave an interview on Fox news with Billo?

http://video.foxnews.com/v/3142612336001/bill-oreillys-super-bowl-interview-with-president-obama/?#sp=show-clips

[MaggieD]

42. I am proud to support a real Democrat that says FU to Faux News

[MelissaB]

47. 1001

[Bubzer]

79. lol

[MelissaB]

88. I was having a bit of fun practicing my counting and she took her ball and went

to play elsewhere.

[Bubzer]

89. Well darn....thats only slightly less satisfying (Oh I do tell a lie...it's certainly more!)

[Autumn]

50. I'm just proud to support a real Democrat. Nice deflection on Obama appearing on Fox News though

[AtomicKitten]

54. Hillary Clinton: "There Were A Lot Of Times When I Appreciated" Fox News During Primary.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/14/hillary-clinton-there-wer_n_134544.html

[MelissaB]

56. !

[Autumn]

59. OMG Hillary on Fox News? Looks like Hillary and Obama don't say FU to Fox news after all

[AtomicKitten]

63. a bunch of her surrogates became Faux News contributors

[MelissaB]

69. How dare you

spread truth. Just kidding. Sprinkle that shit everywhere.

[AtomicKitten]

75. lol

fwiw because I don't think truth/reality matter to some here

[MelissaB]

81. No, it doesn't.

I think some people have a job to do, and it ain't spreading the truth.

[timmymoff]

83. Get of the cross we need the wood.

Why should he follow every single rule designed to keep him out of the picture? Stop the nonsense. he isn't afraid to go into the lion's den. He can answer the tough questions.

[VulgarPoet]

175. Preach..

Homeboy walked into Liberty fuckin' University and walked away with more than a few changed minds in there. Sanders has nothing less than my undying respect, he pulled the political equivalent of walking into Mordor and making Sauron second-guess himself. Let's see Hillary do something like that.

[Lancero]

106. Hillary has been on Fox a number of times, so by YOUR OWN logic she isn't a 'Real Democrat' either.

[Lancero]

197. Hey Maggie, Hillary changed her mind - She wants in on Fox.

If real Democrats say FU to Faux News, then what does that make her now that she is saying yes to them?

[Cobalt Violet]

199. Well I guess you are no longer a Hillary supporter!

[BigBearJohn]

161. Oh, good one. Touche (love it)

[CentralMass]

109. It's opinions like that the have the Democratic party in decline. Go Bernie.

[DallasNE]

137. Not How Americans Will View This

They will be split in two camps. The first camp will read this as Hillary hunkering down and sitting on her lead, which is the recipe for squandering her lead - which I am fine with.

The other is that she is weak and ducking the hard questions Fox would ask her on her email problem, including the criminal investigation.

She managed to lose in 2008 and if this is indicative of what she is doing in 2016 she is on the road to losing again -- which I am fine with.

[Barack_America]

146. I like the way you think.

[FarPoint]

151. Me too...

[desmiller]

153. MaggieD blindly and arrogantly underestimate Sanders. BIG TIME Check.

[Armstead]

162. Both Obama and Clinton appeared on Fox Shows in 2008 -- deliberatly

[Go Vols]

173. Just like Obama,

but Hillary wont.

[bvar22]

181. Oh?

[Lorien]

9. The GOP disagrees with you

but keep telling yourself that for...whatever reason.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/266086-gop-chairman-would-rather-face-clinton-than-sanders

[JackRiddler]

11. Hello, they invited Clinton...

She chose not to go.

[libdem4life]

23. Republicans have such mature and reasoned political senses...Trump, Cruz and Rubio. Right.

No Democrat should slam another Democrat with a false innuendo about "what Republicans will or will not do." I do not make my decisions based on what Republicans want, think they want, or claim they want. They don't have crap to offer, so enough with justifying a Democratic position on a Republican numbnut rumor.

[Renew Deal]

31. And prolong the Democratic race

[FarPoint]

62. Well said

[MelissaB]

66. But wrong.

[FarPoint]

72. My call,

My choice, my vote counts.

[Bubzer]

87. Your choice and your vote...sure. And ours to point out why you're wrong.

That's OUR call

[FarPoint]

145. No, it is not your place to tell me I am wrong.

You only have control of you....

[zentrum]

86. HRC and Bill

…..are personal friends with Murdoch and socialize with him.

Just sayin'.

[Phlem]

95. The slime never ends does it? I actually know several die hard

Republicans among family and friends that want to vote for him.

Man this shit's getting old.

[shawn703]

97. He's not afraid of a hostile audience

Your candidate couldn't take the heat. How would she stand up to Putin?

[MaggieD]

99. Oh they will make sure it's all softballs

It will be hilarious I'm sure.

[shawn703]

111. For Bernie, yes they would be

The same exact questions posed to Hillary would be deemed too tough.

[MaggieD]

114. Democrats don't watch Faux News

He is trying to get republican votes. I can't respect that. I think that signals absolute desperation. That's my opinion. I don't see any other reason for a so called liberal to go on Faux News during a primary race.

[Bubzer]

126. Here's my reply to your...opinion:

[MaggieD]

128. Dems still don't watch Faux News

Your irrelevant video notwithstanding.

Clearly he is going after republicans to get them to vote for him in the primary. Shameful. He is not a Democrat and has never been a Democrat. That is why he has very few super delegate endorsements from Dems. Real Dem super delegates support Clinton (over 400 for her as compared to 18 for him).

[Barack_America]

141. Psst.

Remember, the "us vs. them" thing is to distract from the reality that some of "us" have become "them". Team "Clinton" vs. Team Republican, both playing the same damned game.

[chknltl]

148. But AMERICANS do.

Just because they watch FOX News they have not abdicated their American citizenship! One would hope that you are not against an American politician reaching out to his or her fellow citizens wherever that politician can.

Dividing up the citizenry has worked well for those who do the dividing. The dividers have made great profits in keeping the citizenry at each other's throats and thereby distracted from witnessing how they steal our very democracy.

One would further hope that you are against those who would divide us, the time for divisiveness must pass! I would urge you to contact your candidate and suggest she speak her wisdom to FOX viewers-TO OUR FELLOW AMERICANS, just as Bernie is doing.

[MaggieD]

149. No, right wing assholes watch it

That's all.

[chknltl]

154. Well that response will make them think well of your candidate!

Each and every vote is precious, divisive responses like yours just now poison the well. There are plenty of Fox News viewers who are just as tired of watching their democracy slip away as we are. I urge you to retract your response to me, put me on ignore if you must, the divisiveness within our party, arguably the divisiveness within the electorate must end. Don't be a part of the problem, be a part of the solution!

[MaggieD]

155. Whatever. We don't need to suck up to Rethugs in a Dem primary

Unless of course YOUR candidate can't get enough Dems to vote for him. Pathetic. I'm grateful Clinton seems to have enough respect for us to decline that crap.

[chknltl]

157. Not about your or my candidate

For far too long Fox News viewers have been divided from the (big "D&quot Democratic perspective...they are masters at dividing up the electorate. I believe in democracy, let's let the entire electorate hear what these two Democrats have to say. Do not be surprised if your candidate shows the wisdom I know she has and joins in. It would show no lack of respect for her supporters, it would otoh show a great respect for a segment of the electorate who might otherwise only know what they know about Hillary because Fox News told them so!

[MaggieD]

158. Sorry - I don't belong to the Faux News suck up wing of the party

Didn't even know that wing existed until tonight. I guess anything Bernie does is okay with his supporters. But I'm actually a DEMOCRAT. So nope.

[chknltl]

159. A Democrat first, an American second huh?

Well I tried. At this point all I am left with is a hope that you reconsider your current position of pushing away fellow Democrats as well as fellow Americans. IMO it is better to be part of the solution than to be part of the problem. So...divide away I guess.
It is late for me, I've better things to do.

[NCTraveler]

169. Your opposition to right wing corporate media has been recognized. You outed yourself. lol

On Fri Mar 4, 2016, 11:19 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

Sorry - I don't belong to the Faux News suck up wing of the party
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1409529

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[Kentonio]

198. Well this is pretty funny given Hillary changed her mind..

[noamnety]

184. This is awkward. (nt)

[VulgarPoet]

176. Is that why you didn't know that both Hillary and Barack appeared on Fox?

http://video.foxnews.com/v/3142612336001/bill-oreillys-super-bowl-interview-with-president-obama

[shawn703]

142. Independents watch Fox News too

Like it or not, the winner of the election is going to need the help of independents.

[Barack_America]

147. Fuck them, I guess, even though they're half the electorate.

Reminders of the historical failings of the Clintons are so strong on this thread.

Can we be done with them?

[Armstead]

163. To repeat -- Both Clinton and Obama went on Fox during the 2008 primary

[wavesofeuphoria]

203. Oops. Hillary decided to go after all. Must signal absolute desperation, that so called liberal.

Just my opinion of course.

[TheBlackAdder]

112. HRC is punishing FOX--Like Chris Christie intimidated Dems to support him, fearing retaliation!

[eggplant]

123. Right. Stooping to answering questions on enemy turf. Now that *is* desperate.

Thank goodness your candidate has wisely chosen to avoid answering any uncomfortable questions.

[Arkana]

165. I really think you guys should pay more attention to hypothetical GE matchups.

Bernie beats all three of the remaining clowns soundly. Hillary only beats Trump.

[Cobalt Violet]

200. you are asking them to be reasonable. I don't think they can be.

She is a fetish to them. They refuse to even entertain the idea that she can't win.

[Ivan Kaputski]

170. Silly! Hillary is already running against Bernie

[NWCorona]

190. I guess she's stooping now 😂

[tabasco]

196. Clinton's going to be on there too.

Is she desperate like Sanders?

[krawhitham]

205. It appears someone is a desperate gasp not to get buried in MI

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/hillary-clinton-will-appear-on-mondays-fox-news-democratic-town-hall-after-all/

[RufusTFirefly]

7. I always thought Bernie's original idea of an inter-party primary debate was great

It would've been much harder for the evolution deniers and climate skeptics to admit it before a mixed audience.

But, of course, Debbie Downer put the kibosh on that idea.

[dana_b]

8. Fox - okay...

well, with the way that CNN, MSNBC and the others have either been ignoring Bernie and/or are all-Clinton-all-the-time, I guess it's what we have - for now.

I'm just glad to see/hear that he will have some air time.

[tazkcmo]

104. An unreached audience

The folks that get most of their news from Fox most likely have not seen and heard Sen Sanders unscripted. Sen Sanders is at his best in this environment imo. Years of Brunch With Bernie have given him the mental agility to respond succinctly and confidently "off the cuff" and his passion and sincerity will, hopefully, impress this audience, many of who are also sick and tired of the corporations rigging the game, the bankers/Wall St fleecing us at every turn and the politicians that enable them.

Maybe some who see Trump's brashness and anti-establishment rhetoric as positives but recognize he's a crass buffoon may realize there's an alternative. They may even become receptive to Sen Sanders' "socialist" policies as a result.

I also think this is a bad move for Sec Clinton. She has to win over a lot of conservative leaning Independents and moderate Republicans if she's to win the GE in the probable event she wins the nomination and not participating in their beloved Fair And Balanced Fox News town hall will be held against her. Watch for Fox News to make it a big deal and just another reason among many GOP reasons to not vote for her.

I'm confident Sen Sanders will knock this out of the park and hopefully gain some support.

[dana_b]

115. yes, I hope so

it's so, SO strange to be watching FOX though. This whole election season has been strange.

But:
"Years of Brunch With Bernie have given him the mental agility to respond succinctly and confidently "off the cuff"
I couldn't agree more! He speaks from the heart and doesn't have to practice. It's just who he is and what he feels.

[tazkcmo]

124. I have two brothers

out of 3 that watch that channel. They're also very tech savvy and smart but have their own set of blinders on, too. Anyway, I've lightly mentioned Sanders (we're a pretty hot headed group so best to tread lightly) but I doubt they acted on it. I'm sure they'll be watching this, though.

Yes, down is up (Single payer a pony now?) this year but it's just the beginning. It's a marathon not a sprint.

[Motown_Johnny]

12. How do I get a ticket????? n/t

[Barack_America]

14. Right?

I got to do some super fun stuff like this through the Obama campaign. I'd bet the campaign here would have access for tickets.

I'm volunteering Sunday. Just time for one day this year, unfortunately.

[Motown_Johnny]

16. I am going to go hang out outside the Debate Sunday.

I just got my new banners made and I can't wait to get out there with them.

This town hall will give me a chance to use them 2 days in a rows. That is a bonus but I would much rather be inside for the event.

[Nanjeanne]

13. Hillary only wants real pure Democrats to vote for her. Good luck getting elected.

[aaaaaa5a]

15. Good for Hillary. There is no need to prop up

A right wing propaganda news outlet.

[Lucinda]

27. +1

I like the idea of mixed debates with both parties, but NOT on FOX.

[zentrum]

91. Wonder what her supporters

…will say on the day when she does go on FOX?

She just did not want to appear with Bernie.

FOX was made more powerful in part because of Bill Clinton's telecommunications act, allowing five mega-media companies. It was terrible for democracy.

[Ed Suspicious]

94. I'm becoming convinced they're all right wing propaganda outlets.

[think]

152. Always have been....

[La Lioness Priyanka]

121. She has much to lose and little to gain

I wouldn't do it if I were her either

[timmymoff]

130. no need to prop up a corporate owned dem

but the media does it anyway.

[pinebox]

166. But Hillary will get things done!

This would be a great opportunity to showcase the talking point her supporters repeat how Hillary will get things done.

Seriously, if Hillary can't be bothered to even go on FOX because they'd roast her, how can she run the country with their leaders?

The meme of Hillary will get stuff done is dead. She won't. Ever.

[bigwillq]

191. Mrs. Clinton will now be on Fox News

Change of schedule

[Ruby the Liberal]

17. Trump must really be scaring the living shit out of them

Hell, he opened their debate tonight with a dick joke on live teevee.

Now its spaghetti on the wall to see what sticks. I wonder if Jill Stein has seen a ginormous check-for-the-cause yet.

This is the weirdest election. Like ever.

[Barack_America]

18. I think so.

What kind of ever-loving bizarro world have we entered when FOXNews will give an hour of free promotion to a Democratic Socialist? They would seriously rather he be elected than their own candidate.

[Ruby the Liberal]

19. I know, right?

Hey - thanks for the heads up! Watching FOX, but was going to switch off after the debate. They haven't promoted it that I've seen?

[JudyM]

60. Yeah, they must be looking at Bernie's matchup scores with tRump. Would love a debate between them!

[Jitter65]

20. That figures. Anything to trash Hillary. Town hall is a good cover. nt

[Barack_America]

21. Did you miss the part that she was invited too?

[metroins]

29. After the way they're going after Trump

She'd be absolutely nuts to go on a Fox program.

[elmac]

80. Bernie won't do any trashing

but I bet fox's loaded audience will be baiting the hell out of him.

[kristopher]

22. Failure of Courage: Clinton Declines Fox Town Hall w/ Sanders nt

[MaggieD]

30. I am proud to support a real Democrat that says FU to Faux News

Sad that Bernie is bowing down in desperation.

[MelissaB]

40. You're posting the same thing over and over and over...

[MaggieD]

44. It apparently needs to be repeated

I am proud to support a real Democrat that says FU to Faux News.

[MelissaB]

49. 1002??? But it doesn't make it true.

[grasswire]

177. isn't there a rule against spam, anyway? nt

[noamnety]

186. I suspect they regret it today.

[bigwillq]

192. It seems Mrs. Clinton will now join Bernie on Fox News

[libdem4life]

28. She's too busy trying to find more money. All Bernie has to do is give his stump speech and

ask for donations. Bernie's numbers go up every time he speaks and introduces not only himself, but his record and plan for America...unrig the system. We, not me.

[Barack_America]

34. I actually checked, so doesn't seem to have a $2700 per plate...

...fundraiser that day. Her "prior commitment" must be a $250,000 speech somewhere. Maybe to the big 3, promising them she'll turn support more Michigan automotive jobs being shipped to Mexico.

[libdem4life]

45. That, or working on Talking Points for former staff with the FBI interviews pending. n/t

[Barack_America]

55. I'm not kidding, Huma!

OMG. Please let this be the end of the Clintons. We've already been treated to the end of the Bushes this year. Wouldn't it be lovely if they went out together?

[libdem4life]

70. I thought the same thing. If the Republicans can do it, so can we. No more Dynasties.

And I don't want a First Man in the White House who's already been there as the President. With Bill's inclination to "act out" lately, imagine what he'd do in the White House. How could Hillary go and do the President thing and leave him unattended? And every scene would be covered gleefully by the MSM Press.

Also, what a sad sight it would be to watch him deteriorate over the next few years...it's already happening.

[arcane1]

36. I guarantee he will win some people over in that town hall. Not by pandering, but by convincing them

[libdem4life]

52. Yep, you can't pander when you just lay our your vision for America, and back it up with

half a decade political record. That's called a platform, commitment, consistency...and that's how he will win them.

[litlbilly]

76. Bernie is not afraid to talk with anyone. Thom Hartmann for 10 years every friday and all

questions were taken. I love when he does this sort of thing. I will be great

[CharlotteVale]

100. Exactly.

[Kittycat]

51. Has she hit up coal yet? Maybe the toxic waste lobby?

[libdem4life]

53. Good one !

[magical thyme]

187. ^^^ my first guess, too. nt

[BernieforPres2016]

39. I heard somebody today say that Hillary would prefer not to do the remaining debates with Bernie

but is obligated to do them. It appears she's going to try to sit on her lead, pretend that she is above having to deal with Bernie and avoid the media as much as possible.

[Barack_America]

46. Oh well. I'm glad to support a candidate who will take tough questions.

From media and voters alike.

[MaggieD]

48. She doesn't need to.....

Never did. And no one gives a shit. Admit it, you don't even watch them at this point.

[jalan48]

57. Maybe it was a make-up date with Bain Capital.

Great to see Mittens on TV today........

[stevenleser]

61. This is simply priceless. I am definitely bookmarking this OP. nt

[Barack_America]

64. What, you won't be with Fox for the townhall?

Bummer, thought they might bring you in for this one.

[stevenleser]

68. I would go if asked. nt

[Barack_America]

85. Given your "perspective" can I ask what is so notable about this OP?

[stevenleser]

174. Well, I'm delighted that going on Fox has become such a laudable action. I'm hoping this change

doesn't suddenly flip back when I am on again.

[Ivan Kaputski]

168. ^ this ^ I'm sure Fox wouldn't want someone on their network that didn't like Fox.

[dana_b]

65. oh boy...

I see that there are a LOT of missing posts so I figure that the Hillary people are having a field day with this.

I have many BM'd posts too.

[Barack_America]

71. ???

I don't see a single missing post.

[dana_b]

74. that's good

you have better blood pressure than I do.

[Barack_America]

82. Ah, okay.

Not better BP, just laziness. I didn't transfer my 2008 Primary ignore list over to the new DU. I thought you were seeing a lot of "message removed", which I wasnt. Which would mean the sole occupant of my ignore list just ate some pizza.

You're not missing much, just some true believer spamming the thread claiming Hillary is a "real Democrat". Hilarious. To be expected as I suppose many of us had to drink to cope with that Republican debate.

[dana_b]

90. Lol...

" just some true believer spamming the thread claiming Hillary is a "real Democrat". Hilarious. " right?!

I can't even watch the Repub debates. My 26 yo daughter does because she says that she finds it both funny and incredulous. I can't find any of it funny. I'm too old.

I only have a couple of my 2008 Primary ignore list still there. Most don't post anymore. The rest are from this primary season because I just don't want to deal with the drama (or too fast of a pulse).

[litlbilly]

67. Bernie does great in the Lions Den, just like Liberty University, he was awsome there.

[PatrynXX]

73. Bernie is hardly afraid of Fox

that isn't a surprise. What is a surprise is that she turned them down.. Conflict my ass. , horrible cop out face palm

[FailureToCommunicate]

84. Be careful Bernie. That very scary Megyn Kelly is on that network...

[Mnpaul]

93. He can handle Wallace and O'Reilly

Kelly won't pose a threat

[delrem]

92. Entering the lion's den. Really. Wow.

That'll be some viewership from across the political spectrum.

[LuvLoogie]

96. Fox will take it easy on Bernie and go after Hillary.

Bernie is drift casting for disillusioned Republicans to cross over on Tuesday. Fox will oblige him

[one_voice]

101. Good for Bernie!

Obama & Hillary have both gone on before. Show them none of our people are afraid of them.

He'll do just fine.

[Tragl1]

103. Bawk?

To be fair to Clinton, the smart political move on her part is to stay away from this. For Bernie, more exposure is the smart move, even if it is Fox. That being said, it still looks like she's a bit chicken to me, just saying. I had a republican friend of mine, register as a democrat, just to vote against Clinton. I don't think people realize just how many people don't like the Clinton(s). So in that context, it can only help Sanders peel off republicans and independents.

[Barack_America]

108. Particularly in the Midwest.

I have now heard enough "If not Sanders, then Trump" people to believe this sentiment is a real thing.

[Tragl1]

116. Bernie or Bust?

That's my fear about nominating Clinton, couple people's dislike for her, with say another San Bernadino attack. You could see a president Drumph. Theirs just too much animosity towards her, justified or not.

[Barack_America]

119. These are traditionally Republican voters.

I've yet to meet an Obama voter willing to vote for Trump. Plenty willing to stay home though.

[Tragl1]

131. Fair point...

Be interesting to see if Bernie can pull some of Trumps voters with economic populism. Or does it not really matter because Trump is such an idiot, that in general terms he's unelectable, so it's really a race between Hillary and Bernie, and this demographic isn't going to swing much. Still going to be cool to watch.

[elana i am]

143. i'm in brownbackistan and i've heard that some

but what i hear more is "if not trump, then sanders."

[CharlotteVale]

122. It looks that way to me too.

[Joe Shlabotnik]

105. K&R

Exposes Hillary's cowardice; a tactical failure by the team Clinton. This gives Bernie exposure to an audience otherwise unreachable, but who may begin to consider him.

[snowy owl]

107. Hard to admit on this forum but...

I've been watching more of Fox lately. And CNN. Both are better than MSNBC where it is wall-to-wall Hillary. I know the difference between propaganda and good journalism. CNN has had some really good pundit discussions latety. Panels of eight - two tables pretty equally divided right and left. And Chris Wallace asks good questions. Chuck Toad is unwatchable as is most of MSNBC.

[Feeling the Bern]

127. He went to Liberty University and spoke. Why not try to sway some of the opposition

Go for it, Sen. Sanders! Worst that could happen is nothing changes.

[libdem4life]

211. And he did. One of the Staff Ministers there wrote a long article on why he now supports Bernie.

He actually listened, and changed his mind. Bernie can do that.

[kstewart33]

132. They won't lay a hand on him.

Because just like the Republican Pacs who are spending millions on anti-Hillary TV ads, they want Bernie to win the nomination. That's the best chance the Republicans have to win the presidency, and they know it.

[Barack_America]

135. Actually, Bernie is the best chance at keeping Trump from winning...

...and they know THAT.

[libdem4life]

209. This meme is So Old and Moldy. Bernie beats all of them handily. n/t

[Uncle Joe]

134. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, Barack_America.

[Loudestlib]

139. Hillarychicken.

[JohnnyRingo]

150. You don't seem to understand campaign strategy

Why would the front runner want more debates? While it's possible she actually has something more important to do, what could she gain in another debate so soon? The underdog candidate always calls for more debates and Town Halls because they have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

Eventually she'll have to face him again, but when Hillary starts calling for more debates you'll know her campaign is in peril.

[Barack_America]

156. Strategy is one thing and perception another.

And the perception will be she's afraid to take questions from Fox News.

I think there's truth to this.

This gives Bernie a very interesting platform to highlight her weaknesses. that's strategy too.

I'll take 'honesty' for $1000 with that crowd.

[arcane1]

185. Well, today she "evolved" and decided to go on the Fox town hall after all.

Sounds like peril

[JohnnyRingo]

195. Damn her

She just did this to make me look stupid. hahaha
She'd better be careful, I might flip to the Bern side.

[noamnety]

188. Danger, Will Robinson!!!

"Why would the front runner want more debates? While it's possible she actually has something more important to do, what could she gain in another debate so soon? The underdog candidate always calls for more debates and Town Halls because they have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

Eventually she'll have to face him again, but when Hillary starts calling for more debates you'll know her campaign is in peril."

(we've probably all said things that proved wrong in this primary, myself included - so I feel you, but it is pretty funny all the same.)

[JohnnyRingo]

194. You got me

Thanx for being gracious. ...and humorous.

[bigwillq]

193. Mrs. Clinton will now join Bernie on Fox News!

[JohnnyRingo]

144. The underdog always wants more debates.

I'm not cracking on Bernie here, but it's a traditional strategy to quit when one feels ahead of the game. There's nothing to gain a front runner in a political debate, but much to lose. That's why candidates who are behind always call for more appearances.

Meanwhile, Bernie may make some headway in a Town Hall by himself, or he may not, depending on how the random questions go. He can't slip into third place so the gamble is well worth it to him.

[Armstead]

164. "much to lose".....like having to answer questions and expose who one is

[FlatBaroque]

167. GREAT! I hope he fully exploits this opportunity to appeal to Fox viewers and earn their votes

There is a large segment of the Republican party that would switch over if they heard Bernie. This is a great opportunity to broaden his base of support.

[Chichiri]

172. It's not courage: they're going to go soft on him before the nomination. nt

[Armstead]

178. I doubt it, though you'd like to believe it fits into their nefarious agenda

[bunnies]

179. Michigan has an open primary. This is a brilliant move.

[Barack_America]

182. Absolutlely. I know plenty of Independents planning on voting for him.

[bigwillq]

183. Kick (nt)

[noamnety]

189. k&r

we got ourselves a breastfeeding olivegarden eatin' duzy of a thread here now.

[riversedge]

201. Courage: Fox News to hold Democratic town hall with Hillary Clinton & Bernie Sanders in Detroit

as most know--both Hillary and Bernie will attend the Town Hall.

[Barack_America]

207. What an exciting new development that Hillary decided to attend after all...

...after initially declining the invitation as noted in the OP.

[libdem4life]

212. Just HRC being HRC...the Flip Flop Queen. n/t

[Mike Nelson]

202. I wish they would boycott FOX "News", but...

...I suppose it's good exposure. I will watch and hope Republicans see how adult candidates act.

[Macattack1]

204. why would anyone boycott more exposure?

..Bernie will pick up votes from R's after this for sure. I am one of the people who's mind he has changed on a lot of things. As a former Republican, I could NEVER vote for Hillary, because of all the lying,...but Bernie I could vote for, because even folks on the right eventually get fed up with the system as it is, and want change...ANY change.

[Autumn]

206. How exciting! We really need to keep this wonderful thread kicked until the debate.

[nc4bo]

210. Ha. Ha. HA! Hillary didn't want Bernie to outcourage her!

What a ditto-head.

[libdem4life]

213. There she goes again, following Bernie. I wonder how she managed to discharge the schedule conflict?

The one no one could find on any schedule. Maybe she had an abuela evening planned.

[libdem4life]

213. There she goes again, following Bernie. I wonder how she managed to discharge the schedule conflict?

The one no one could find on any schedule. Maybe she had an abuela evening planned.