Fri Mar 4, 2016, 01:21 PM
Segami (14,923 posts)
Hillary Clinton to Indian Audience: ‘OUTSOURCING has Benefited Many Parts of Our Country’PRESS RELEASE Clinton to Indian Audience: ‘Outsourcing has Benefited Many Parts of Our Country’ MARCH 4, 2016 BURLINGTON, Vt. – In a video from the Indian TV state NDTV from May 7, 2012, then-Secretary Hillary Clinton told an Indian audience that outsourcing benefited many parts of the United States: “Well, you know, it’s been going on for many years now and it’s part of our economic relationship with India, and I think that there are advantages with it that have certainly benefited many parts of our country and there are disadvantages that go to the need to, you know, improve the job skills of our own people and create a better economic environment, so it’s, like anything it’s, you know, got pluses and minuses.” Following a question from the host about a political ad by President Obama about outsourcing, Secretary Clinton laughingly responds, “Well, you know, it’s an election year . . . .” Her remarks to the Indian audience stand in stark contrast to her comments here in the United States denouncing outsourcing. For instance, in February 2004, Secretary Clinton said, “I do not think outsourcing American jobs is a new kind of trade . . . and I certainly do not believe it is a good thing.” Congressional Record 2/10/04 Page S769 “This new video shows Secretary Clinton says different things to different audiences about outsourcing,” Jeff Weaver, Bernie 2016 campaign manager, said. “In the United States she condemns it but when she’s in India she says it has benefitted many parts of our country. Secretary Clinton should explain to the people of Michigan how they have benefited from the outsourcing of their manufacturing jobs. “Given the Secretary’s long history of supporting job-crushing trade deals it’s not a surprise she thinks there are ‘pluses’ to outsourcing. But to go abroad and just describe it ‘as part of our economic relationship with India’ is disturbing when so many communities like Detroit and Flint that have been hurt so badly by outsourcing. America workers need a president they can trust to protect their jobs.” Weaver also said the video shows why voters should be allowed to see the transcripts of Secretary Clinton secret paid speeches. “If she’s willing to say positive things about outsourcing when she knows she’s on film in India, we can only imagine what she told Goldman Sachs, foreign banking interests, drug companies and other corporate interests in those closed-door speeches she was paid millions to give. Voters deserve to see them.” Full Text of Clinton’s remarks on outsourcing is below: The entire video can be found here. The relevant section begins at approximately 51:30. Transcript below: Audience: good morning ma’am, I’m also a part of the youth advisory council of the US government. so I have [inaudible] questions the first one is: with the possible cut down on outsourcing, [inaudible] protectionism, and [inaudible, will you do anything] about the jobs? And uhh Host: okay let’s take one question at a time so we can get other people to respond. Clinton: So you’re talking about outsourcing from the United States to India? Outsourcing from the United States to India? Well you know it’s been going on for many years now, and it’s part of our economic relationship with India, and I think that there are advantages with it that have certainly benefited many parts of our country and there are disadvantages that go to the need to, you know improve the job skills of our own people and create a better economic environment, so it’s, like anything it’s, you know, got pluses and minuses. Host: There’s a new advertisement in the election campaign of President Obama, that causing a lot of [inaudible hot word?] about outsourcing. Clinton: Well, you know it’s an election campaign, and there is an obligation in any election campaign Host: to overstate a little bit? Clinton: Well I’m not overstating I wouldn’t go that far, but to talk about what’s on people’s minds, and you know it’s more directed toward the fear that a lot of Americans who were in manufacturing, who don’t feel like they have any other job possibilities because they weren’t trained for any other job possibilities, so it’s a legitimate issue, it needs to be aired, but i think the President has been very clear that he wants to improve our own exports. You know when we’re on our way to doubling our exports, he wants to improve education, skills training so that people can have the jobs of the 21st century. So it’s fair to talk about but you also have to have a solution that looks at what’s really going to work. https://berniesanders.com/press-release/clinton-to-indian-audience-outsourcing-has-benefited-many-parts-of-our-country/
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Segami | Mar 2016 | OP |
djean111 | Mar 2016 | #1 | |
peacebird | Mar 2016 | #2 | |
whathehell | Mar 2016 | #7 | |
arcane1 | Mar 2016 | #13 | |
abelenkpe | Mar 2016 | #19 | |
Akicita | Mar 2016 | #30 | |
peacebird | Mar 2016 | #31 | |
Akicita | Mar 2016 | #32 | |
valerief | Mar 2016 | #3 | |
SoapBox | Mar 2016 | #24 | |
UglyGreed | Mar 2016 | #4 | |
highprincipleswork | Mar 2016 | #5 | |
Kip Humphrey | Mar 2016 | #6 | |
abelenkpe | Mar 2016 | #18 | |
LiberalArkie | Mar 2016 | #25 | |
pdsimdars | Mar 2016 | #28 | |
AzDar | Mar 2016 | #8 | |
VulgarPoet | Mar 2016 | #9 | |
senz | Mar 2016 | #10 | |
Chelsea2032 | Mar 2016 | #11 | |
arcane1 | Mar 2016 | #12 | |
olddots | Mar 2016 | #14 | |
antigop | Mar 2016 | #15 | |
abelenkpe | Mar 2016 | #16 | |
jalan48 | Mar 2016 | #17 | |
appalachiablue | Mar 2016 | #22 | |
Duppers | Mar 2016 | #38 | |
Duval | Mar 2016 | #20 | |
sarge43 | Mar 2016 | #21 | |
MisterP | Mar 2016 | #23 | |
pdsimdars | Mar 2016 | #26 | |
dana_b | Mar 2016 | #27 | |
peacebird | Mar 2016 | #33 | |
charlespercydemocrat | Mar 2016 | #29 | |
vintx | Mar 2016 | #34 | |
moondust | Mar 2016 | #35 | |
bobthedrummer | Mar 2016 | #36 | |
Duppers | Mar 2016 | #37 | |
Amishman | Mar 2016 | #39 | |
Vinca | Mar 2016 | #40 | |
Impedimentus | Mar 2016 | #41 | |
Bread and Circus | Mar 2016 | #42 | |
Bread and Circus | Mar 2016 | #43 | |
treestar | Mar 2016 | #44 | |
hobbit709 | Mar 2016 | #45 | |
bobthedrummer | Mar 2016 | #46 |
Response to Segami (Original post)
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 01:22 PM
djean111 (14,255 posts)
1. Yes, it has benefited corporations in many parts of our country.
Workers - not at all.
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Response to Segami (Original post)
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 01:23 PM
peacebird (14,195 posts)
2. Outsourcing is gutting the American IT industry.
Thanks Hillary, for NOTHING.
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Response to peacebird (Reply #2)
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 01:38 PM
whathehell (27,159 posts)
7. Abbott Labs in Illinois outsourcing jobs, making laid off workers
train the foreigners who are taking their jobs. Sickening ecample of 'adding insult to injury'.
![]() Dick Durbin complained to them on a letter...Don't know if it will do any good. |
Response to peacebird (Reply #2)
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 03:19 PM
arcane1 (38,613 posts)
13. And we are encouraged to dream of "inventing the next Facebook" instead of having a damn job.
Either be a billionaire inventor of some new application, or serve hamburgers at McDonald's.
Those are the choices our leaders want to leave us with. |
Response to peacebird (Reply #2)
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 04:09 PM
Akicita (1,196 posts)
30. Insourcing foreign workers is also gutting American IT jobs.
What's the difference between outsourcing American jobs to foreigners and insourcing foreigners to take American jobs? Both put Americans out of work, make the rich richer and the middle class poorer.
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Response to Akicita (Reply #30)
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 04:10 PM
peacebird (14,195 posts)
31. Coincidentally Hillary ALSO supports more H1B visas....
Response to peacebird (Reply #31)
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 04:22 PM
Akicita (1,196 posts)
32. And HGC's buddy Rahm Emmanuel promised a portion of Chicago city jobs will be reserved for
undocumented immigrants denying good jobs to AA citizens in a city with a sky high AA unemployment rate.
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Response to Segami (Original post)
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 01:25 PM
valerief (53,235 posts)
3. It has benefited the .01%, most definitely, Hillary. Not so much everyone else. nt
Response to Segami (Original post)
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 01:26 PM
UglyGreed (7,661 posts)
4. And we wonder why
so many Americans would be devastated by a 500 hundred emergency or that there are 46.7 million people living in poverty......
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Response to Segami (Original post)
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 01:28 PM
highprincipleswork (3,111 posts)
5. "Jobs of the 21st Century" - that bullshit line again.
Response to highprincipleswork (Reply #5)
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 01:35 PM
Kip Humphrey (4,753 posts)
6. I heard "Jobs of the 21st Century" were over a bridge built to the 21st Century somewhere, but
that bridge turned out to be a bridge to nowhere!
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Response to highprincipleswork (Reply #5)
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 03:35 PM
abelenkpe (9,933 posts)
18. Gig jobs
Y'know where you're brought on per project, work long hours for a short time and no benefits. I've had many of these since my old 20th century style staff position was off shored. Wonder if each one is counted as a new job to boost employment numbers? That would be funny.
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Response to abelenkpe (Reply #18)
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 03:53 PM
LiberalArkie (14,691 posts)
25. I wonder if every H1B is a new job?
Response to LiberalArkie (Reply #25)
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 04:02 PM
pdsimdars (6,007 posts)
28. the answer is no.
A decade ago I was a contract software engineer. I think the main pressure was from Microsoft but they wanted to expand the H1B visas to bring in cheap software people from India and Pakistan.
Many of my friends I had met from different parts of the country, especially one guy from Virginia, talked about training the H1B guy who would be taking over their job. My friend in Virginia said that the month he got laid off there were about 3,0000 new H1B visa workers in Virginia. He knew this because there is a government website where they are required to post the numbers. |
Response to Segami (Original post)
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 01:40 PM
AzDar (14,023 posts)
8. Hillary Clinton is part of the problem... damned sure not part of the solution.
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Response to Segami (Original post)
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 01:43 PM
VulgarPoet (2,872 posts)
9. The kind of job I do in the military is the kind of job Clinton wants to send away.
And then what am I supposed to do, after eight years of wasted time(assuming I live that long if she gets the presidency)?
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Response to Segami (Original post)
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 02:01 PM
senz (11,945 posts)
10. This would make a very good campaign ad.
I hope the Bernie campaign, or some other group, does it.
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Response to Segami (Original post)
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 03:17 PM
arcane1 (38,613 posts)
12. Why Hillary's Word Is Meaningless and Unreliable, exhibit # 1,574
Response to Segami (Original post)
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 03:25 PM
olddots (10,237 posts)
14. I think this was misinterpreted
Many farts of our country instead of parts of our country ......She who smelt ot dealt it .
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Response to Segami (Original post)
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 03:29 PM
antigop (12,778 posts)
15. it benefits corporate CEOS and shareholders. nt
Response to Segami (Original post)
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 03:32 PM
abelenkpe (9,933 posts)
16. So I benefitted having my 18 year secure
Job with benefits off shored. Who knew?
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Response to Segami (Original post)
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 03:32 PM
jalan48 (13,204 posts)
17. I think Hillary should run for President of India. Outsourcing at it's best.
Response to jalan48 (Reply #17)
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 03:46 PM
appalachiablue (36,551 posts)
22. + 10 That's hysterical!
Response to jalan48 (Reply #17)
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 04:15 AM
Duppers (24,691 posts)
38. LoL! Perfect. nt
Response to Segami (Original post)
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 03:42 PM
sarge43 (28,425 posts)
21. From the expressions in that photo, the audience isn't buying it either.
All that picture needs is a photoshop of a thought balloon "Bullsh*t!"
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Response to Segami (Original post)
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 03:48 PM
MisterP (23,730 posts)
23. the owners, the human brokers for the indenturees, media flacks that yell about the "STEM shortage"
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Response to Segami (Original post)
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 03:55 PM
pdsimdars (6,007 posts)
26. And polls reflect this, her trust rating is among the lowest if not the lowest of all candidates
People already know this about her, what she says depends on the audience she says it to. What's the hashtag "whichHillary". Exactly.
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Response to Segami (Original post)
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 03:57 PM
dana_b (11,546 posts)
27. "improve the job skills of our own people"
with regards to the IT industry, I would say that she may have a point but there are so many here who have the education and still can't get the jobs because the Indians will come over here on special visas and work for much lower wages than we will. It's a bunch of b.s.!
Then if she is talking about the call centers, well, please.... most of our workers with minimal training could do those jobs! It's just the corporations are money hungry assholes who don't want to pay a living wage. |
Response to dana_b (Reply #27)
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 04:24 PM
peacebird (14,195 posts)
33. Many positions are filled by less qualified H1B workers, as more expensive Americans are laid off
Response to Segami (Original post)
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 04:03 PM
charlespercydemocrat (46 posts)
29. No way!
Theres no way she could ever win in november her supporters are delusional.
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Response to Segami (Original post)
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 04:28 PM
vintx (1,748 posts)
34. This is the kind of thing that makes me worried about our chances
IF shes our nominee. Which I hope she isn't
And the GOP has been preparing to run against her for decades. I dread to think of the ads that will come out if she's in the GE. This kind of thing will destroy our chances of winning. They're just going to talk about how Bill ushered in NAFTA and see how that worked out and we will lose so many voters. So many people are saying she has the nomination sewn up and I'm'm seriously worried. |
Response to Segami (Original post)
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 05:30 PM
bobthedrummer (26,083 posts)
36. Two Clintons. 41 Years. $3 Billion. Inside The Clinton Donor Network (Washington Post 11-19-15)
"Both Clintons declined to be interviewed or comment for this article."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/clinton-money |
Response to bobthedrummer (Reply #36)
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 04:14 AM
Duppers (24,691 posts)
37. Wow!
Bookmarking.
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Response to Segami (Original post)
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 09:17 AM
Amishman (4,933 posts)
39. bullshit, I've had two good tech jobs outsourced away from me
ugh, if I actually typed out how mad that statement makes me, I would get a hide.
This is why she cannot be allowed to win the nomination. |
Response to Segami (Original post)
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 09:35 AM
Vinca (48,578 posts)
40. The people who used to work at the now defunct printing plant near me and the
now defunct paper plant and the now defunct handbag factory and the now defunct optical manufacturer and all the rest of them will be happy to know their new fast food jobs have helped the economy so much.
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Response to Segami (Original post)
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 09:40 AM
Impedimentus (898 posts)
41. Outsourcing = Indentured Servitude and Loss of STEM Jobs , Promotes Age Discrimination
SHAMEFUL and DISGUSTING !!! |
Response to Segami (Original post)
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 09:47 AM
Bread and Circus (9,454 posts)
42. That's a Trump campaign commercial that writes itself. Jesus fucking Christ.
Why doesn't she just rub some salt in the wounds a bit more.
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Response to Segami (Original post)
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 09:49 AM
Bread and Circus (9,454 posts)
43. Hillary acts like she is on an inside joke where those who don't agree with her are just too stupid
get the genius of "outsourcing jobs".
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Response to Segami (Original post)
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 11:36 AM
treestar (80,197 posts)
44. It could benefit Americans
One thing where is a business that could not pay labor costs can exist at this end - say you design something, like a line of dishes or the like. But you can't afford a factory in the US. You can afford Chinese/Indian labor. Therefore that business exists here in the US and eventually employs people where it would not otherwise.
I recall being in Australia and they were very wise there - the labels did not just say "Made in China" like ours do, but "Designed in Australia/Made in China" All in all this issue is not so black and white and cut and dried as job for job. |
Response to Segami (Original post)
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 11:39 AM
hobbit709 (41,694 posts)
45. Yep. Those parts of the country that are the live, work, and play enclaves of the 1%.
Response to Segami (Original post)
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 05:11 PM
bobthedrummer (26,083 posts)
46. The New World Order can ALL go to hell...n/t