2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumLatino voters seem split on candidates. This could hurt Hillary Clinton
?itok=OiuN4YVUBernie Sanders entered the 2016 presidential as the clear underdog with Latinos voters. Few knew his name, let alone his credentials. His campaign was late to the game in releasing a formal immigration plan, highlighting that the Vermont senators only real record on the issue was a vote in Congress against comprehensive reform.
But over the course of a few short months, hes managed to siphon off pieces of Hillary Clintons hold on the fastest-growing voting bloc in the country. Sanders is now counting on Latinos many college students and first-time voters to carry him in contests throughout March.
His campaign took a victory lap this week, claiming that they won the Latino vote in Colorado on Super Tuesday. Now, theyre looking ahead.
Latinos will play a pivotal role in Sen. Sanders path to victory in important states like Arizona, Illinois, New York, California and Florida, and were confident he can continue to win in battleground states with their help, Arturo Carmona, Sanders deputy political director, said in a statement.
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/latino-voters-seem-split-candidates-could-hurt-hillary-clinton
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)but am afraid this is not the place to expound on that. The only thing I will say is as long as campaigns treat minorities as monolithic building blocks....
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)should be used as building blocks or to be used to tear down a candidate like the white men threads I've seen this past week. I did not think this article was bad but I may of missed something.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)let me take one slice of the latino electorate, this is the Mexican American electorate
First off, there is a major division. recent immigrants like me, and old time US residents that still identify with Mexico, some going back to 1848
Then you have the class division. Middle class and wealthy Mexican americans tend to be far more conservative than working class. The working class will like Sanders far more, (this is a general statement), because he sounds more like the populist politicians they have heard form at home. The MC and upper class will for Hillary (and later Trump), becuase well, PRI.
Then you have regional differences. In Mexico you can ID three regions with ease, The North is far more conservative, business friendly trickle down, neoliberal, The Bajio Central is a soup, socially conservative starting to go economic liberally. This is also the heart of the maquila system)
Then you have the south, poor liberal, some might say with communist and socialist tendencies, where guerrillas have existed on and off for the last 100 years.
A lot of that comes to the states.
So look at Rubio and Cruz, both are cuban american (I will ignore the city of birth here). While the Mexican government has had close diplomatic relations with Cuba, conservative Mexicans will vote for Rubio or Cruz, but their more working class counterparts will not, This has not one lick to do with American politics, but the Cuban revolution,
So when campaigns talk of the Latino and Hispanic vote, that is me in the corner trying not to snort my coffee, since I am laughing that hard. And this does not include the cuban community, the puerto ricans, central americans and the rest of the soup. Or the intra Latino tensions.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)your detailed reply. I understand completely your point and I totally agree. It works for all people and beliefs even varies in families. My sister follows Ann Coulter on Twitter for the love of God. BTW We haven't spoken in 15 years.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)I need the entertainment. She can be. I also follow the real Donald trump, yesterday I was waiting for the inevitable response to Romney. It came, but not on twitter,
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)garbage you have a stronger stomach than I LOL Also let me put it this way my sister believes in the Ayn Rand philosophy.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)I even had trump retweet one of my tweets, and agree with me. It was... humorous, Kind of like the mussolini quote.
It will stop being funny soon, but for the moment I have my laughs, (in a very dark way)
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)fully and with full attention, Dreamers is a major division too.
brush
(53,763 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)but the folks here in City Heights have not one lick of a clue who the Hispanic Caucus is. But they have heard of a person running for city hall who likes Sanders and has been on their side for the last 10 years. Tell me, who do think they will truly listen to? And that is one example.
Latinos are not at all a single voting block, Stop treating it that way. (For the record, this goes for all PoC at the risk of opening that can of worms)
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Vattel
(9,289 posts)and various high-profile Clinton supporters, it's amazing that Any Latino would support Sanders. But I guess the truth is emerging to some degree.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)A new poll from The Washington Post and Univision finds that Hillary Clinton is the most popular candidate among Hispanics who plan to vote in the Democratic primary, and Sen. Marco Rubio is the most popular among those who plan to vote Republican. The poll, which was conducted before Jeb Bush dropped out after South Carolina, found Clinton leading Sanders by a wide margin, with Rubio's lead over Trump and Cruz much narrower. (Support from Bush backers was reallocated to those voters' second choices.)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/02/24/nevada-aside-donald-trump-and-bernie-sanders-trail-among-u-s-latinos/