MotherJones: Hillary Clinton's Email Scandal Continues to Fade Away

[wyldwolf]

Here's the latest on classified information being sent via email at the State Department:

The State Department has removed from its unclassified electronic archives a dozen sensitive emails sent to the personal accounts of former secretary of state Colin L. Powell and the staff of his successor, Condoleezza Rice, according to a memo released Friday by the agency’s watchdog....None of the messages was marked as classified or secret at the time it was sent, but (the department’s inspector general, Steve Linick) wrote the emails may have contained “potentially sensitive material” because of the subject matter.

Powell has said he has reviewed the messages and disagrees with a State Department decision to retroactively classify them. “I do not see what makes them classified,” he said.

Hillary Clinton probably sent a lot more emails the Powell, so she ended up with more emails retroactively being classified. Plus the CIA is apparently obsessed with pretending that the US drone program is a deep, dark secret. As usual with Clinton "scandals," this one is dribbling away to nothing in the light of day, and would undoubtedly dribble a lot faster if any of us could actually see the emails. It's an election season, so none of this will convince Republicans (*or Sanders supporters) that there's nothing of any consequence here, but there's nothing of any consequence here. It's just another boneheaded excrescence of the Benghazi pet rock.

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/03/hillary-clintons-email-scandal-continues-dribble-away

*wyldwolf

[BillZBubb]

1. Certainly the FBI is just dribbling away on this. They love wasting their time.

Maybe after they read your post they'll drop their investigation. They've seen all the emails.

Contrary to your wishful thinking, head in the sand post, with the granting of immunity to Pagliano, the investigation just accelerated.

[Enrique]

16. notice this article does not mention the FBI

it frames it as a GOP scandal and compares it to Benghazi. The problem is that like you say, and Kevin Drum omits, the FBI is investigating this, it's not just Trey Gowdy or Darrell Issa.

Let me add that when I saw this headline and saw the link to Mother Jones, I knew it was Kevin Drum. I suppose Drum's partisan writing has brought a lot of hits to Mother Jones, but they really have paid a price regarding their reputation.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

19. "Keep hope alive."/nt

[Depaysement]

64. Actually, I think it will be wrapped up by the end of April nt

[DCBob]

74. The FBI had no choice but get involved.

The FOIA revealed there was classified information in the emails that were going to be released to the public. Every email had to be scrutinized and the classified information redacted. That doesn't mean anyone is guilty of anything.

[BillZBubb]

91. Geez, you Hillary fans need to get informed. The FBI investigation has nothing to do with FOIA

It is a criminal investigation.

[DCBob]

93. Please provide evidence its a criminal investigation.

That may be a part of it investigation but the main focus is whether classified information passed through that server.

[BillZBubb]

97. No you first. Please provide information that it is not criminal and only related to the FOIA issue.

Good luck with that.

[DCBob]

100. The FBI has not given any specific details on the nature of the investigation.

[BillZBubb]

104. Well DUH! Yet they granted immunity to Pagliano. Why do you think they did that?

So they could review classifications of documents for a FOIA request???? Get serious.

The FBI won't give out the targets of the investigation or the subject. That's SOP.

But Loretta Lynch said this: “That matter is being handled by career independent law enforcement agents, FBI agents, as well as the career independent attorneys in the Department of Justice. They follow the evidence, they look at the law and they’ll make a recommendation to me when the time is appropriate.”

Now, you don't have to be a particularly bright to see that list is what you would get for any serious criminal inquiry. "...they look at the law..." should tell you all you need to know if you are truly interested in facts.

[DCBob]

105. They want details on how the server was setup...

to know whether or not classified data on that server may have been compromised. Pagliano is the best person to know that.

Duh.

[tblue37]

2. I am a Sanders supporter, but I think this is probably exactly right. I just hope the

FBI moves fast enough to clear her completely before the GE, so that if she is our candidate, this won't be used to smear her.

Heck, even if Bernie is our candidate, such a shadow could hurt him and our downticket, so I hope things move fast on this case so it is all cleared up post haste.

[CoffeeCat]

3. "It's the server, stupid" (not individual emails)

Article comment:

'His remarks buttress the contention of former secretary of state Hillary Clinton that some of her emails have been retroactively subjected to “over-classification.”'

That's what this article is about. Exonerating Clinton, even though hundreds of emails that were classified or she should have known were classifiable went through an unsecure server, and 22 were extremely sensitive.

Kultursmog. "If Hillary did it, it's probably okay."

It's the server stupid, not individual emails, although they are evidence. It's the moving of all official communication away from government oversight for purposes of political viability and, most likely, criminality.

The Russians know. The Iranians know. The Chinese certainly know how much criminal activity Clinton engaged in. The question is, how much does the FBI know?

[JonLeibowitz]

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[CoffeeCat]

17. Hiding the truth about Clinton's emails is priority NUMBER ONE for Clinton right now

If you take a look at the news and information regarding Clinton's email scandal--there is a concerted, coordinated effort to disseminate key messages to counter the damage this is causing HRC.


My guess is that the FBI granting immunity to the IT expert, Bryan Pagliano, is doing serious damage to her credibility on this issue. Or it's possible that Clinton's new messaging strategy is to blunt any soon-to-be-released information that Pagliano reveals during the course of the investigation.

The key messages are as follows:

--Powell did it too
--This is nothing but a right-wing hit job on poor Hillary

They will be hammering these points for the next several days. They'll use friendly reporters (Washington Post, for sure) and others in the MSM to help them repeat these talking points.

Anyone who dares to state otherwise will be attacked. Unfortunately, many people who don't know any better will pick up these talking points. It's all very interesting.

Edited to add: Or mocked! Mocking is very popular!

[SoapBox]

28. Absolutely agree.

[JonLeibowitz]

29. Agree on most of what you said.

However it's still important to approach the situation with a healthy amount of recognition that we aren't privy to the private FBI investigation, so this thing could go many directions. I mean, saying things like "The Chinese certainly know how much criminal activity Clinton engaged in" are still unsubstantiated. Yes, her server was almost certainly compromised. But we don't really know for sure the Chinese hacked it. Yes, she almost certainly was involved in some kind of pay for play situation. But we can't say that for certain.

Hopefully the FBI investigation blows the doors off this one.

[John K]

37. Why are you repeating what the Republicans are saying?

It is the same as Benghazi, because we have indicted and CONVICTED someone with no evidence. Please state where you get the information that hiding the TRUTH is priority number 1. I thought I noticed that her main priority was in winning primary votes around the country.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

39. This has never been a "search for the truth".

This has never been a "search for the truth". It has been a search for a way to bring down Secretary Clinton "by any means necessary" by those on both ends of the political spectrum whom have proven, time and again, they are incapable of beating her and her husband at the ballot box.

[riversedge]

59. key words are "by those on both ends of the political spectrum ....."

[pandr32]

63. Absolutely true

And let's not forget the Republicans pushed the tax-payer funded House and Senate Committee hearings for the sole purpose of using their office to add the appearance of credibility to Sec. Clinton investigations--all to discredit her before the election.

[AgerolanAmerican]

79. That argument might have been a stronger one

had we not had all the deceptions about it all along the way

She is her own worst enemy! If she laid everything out on the table on Day 1 this would have completely blown over by now - presuming, of course, that no laws were violated.

If laws were violated then this is about equal justice under law, and not about bringing down HRC.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

81. I disagree...

These faux scandals are the instrument used by those whom the Clintons continue to vanquish at the ballot box.

[Jarqui]

69. WaPo "Clinton Foundation received subpoena from State Department investigators"

Investigators with the State Department issued a subpoena to the Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton Foundation last fall seeking documents about the charity’s projects that may have required approval from the federal government during Hillary Clinton’s term as secretary of state, according to people familiar with the subpoena and written correspondence about it.

The subpoena also asked for records related to Huma Abedin, a longtime Clinton aide who for six months in 2012 was employed simultaneously by the State Department, the foundation, Clinton’s personal office, and a private consulting firm with ties to the Clintons.

The full scope and status of the inquiry, conducted by the State Department’s inspector general, were not clear from the material correspondence reviewed by The Washington Post.

The Clinton Foundation received $5 million or more from Saudi Arabia and Boeing after Boeing sold Saudi Arabia a bunch of F-15s while Hillary oversaw and approved the deal as Secretary of State. This was one of several such "coincidences" reported by the media of big donors to the Clinton Foundation also receiving help from the Secretary of State.

Can someone explain to me (& provide a link) which foundations of Condoleezza Rice and Colin Powell received $5 million or more from parties they helped during their time as Secretary of State and when their foundation got subpoenaed? Somehow I missed that report.

And somehow, this is all being swept under the rug as "just another Benghazi".

Another difference between Benghazi and this email scandal is that hundreds of FBI and Intelligence Community agents gawked at this email scandal for months. Why the fuck would they do that if there wasn't a serious good reason to make such a gargantuan effort?

This spin about "there's nothing to see here" is bullshit.

You'd have to be incredibly naive to believe that the donations to the Clinton Foundation are not going to come up in the general election. And to date, after nearly a year in the media, we haven't got a shred of solid evidence to clear her nor a good, credible answer from anyone. If you want to believe this is all magically going to go away, I'm sure someone could come up with some good swamp land to sell you.

If a solider falls asleep while on guard, whether someone attacks while he's on duty or not, they are subject to discipline - maybe a court martial or even death if the nation is at war.

Hillary setting up a server at home that held classified material (some of it born classified) is something like falling asleep while on duty to protect the nations classified secrets. It is against the law - period. No ifs, ands. buts or maybes about it. And the Republicans howling about it, as they inevitably will, will be on the side of criminal law. This is not going to get swept under the carpet either - even if Obama pardons her - there will be outrage. And quite frankly, there should be because it is blatantly against the law to take possession of classified material without authorization - her husband pardoned someone for doing it and it was profiled in the media so it's kind of hard to pretend nobody knew that law.

This is "let's pretend there isn't a problem and put it out there in the media we control so that people will continue to vote for us to clinch the primary ... after which, shit is likely to hit the fan but it's too late for the voters - they'll be stuck with Hillary as their candidate".

That's my take on what is going on here. Telling folks there isn't a problem is bullshit. Hillary will not walk into the Oval Office without getting hacked up in this gantlet. No chance of that.

[Gwhittey]

31. So

this post that was critical of Hillary gets Alert but one it is replying to calling someone Stupid is OK. Freaking people are so GOP around here. Talk bad about the Oligarchy and you try to silence them.

[msanthrope]

61. I voted to leave it. Kinda blows your theory. nt

[JonLeibowitz]

65. My theory? What theory is that? /nt

[msanthrope]

113. That HRC supporters are trying to supress something. I let your silly stand. nt

[JonLeibowitz]

114. I neither 1) am coffeecat, nor 2) expressed an opinion that HRC supporters are suppressing something

[DemocratSinceBirth]

18. "Keep hope alive."/nt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

21. You mean the super duper secure server.

Security Logs of Hillary Clinton’s Email Server Are Said to Show No Evidence of Hacking


WASHINGTON — A former aide to Hillary Clinton has turned over to the F.B.I. computer security logs from Mrs. Clinton’s private server, records that showed no evidence of foreign hacking, according to people close to a federal investigation into Mrs. Clinton’s emails.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/04/us/politics/security-logs-of-hillary-clintons-email-server-are-said-to-show-no-evidence-of-hacking.html

Oh, I would be remiss if I didn't leave you with this.
"Keep hope alive."

[JonLeibowitz]

30. Logs can be erased, easily, once one has root access to the server.

I am sure that nothing discoverable by a simple grep would be left after a sophisticated cracking attempt. There may as yet be a way to show the server was likely not hacked, but nothing is certain. The mistake is in assuming our people are sophisticated enough to uncover every attack that could be perpetrated. I am not so optimistic.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

32. Please see Posts 19 and 23

Thank you in advance.

[JonLeibowitz]

41. Got it, you have no substantive retort. Have a wonderful day. n/t

[DemocratSinceBirth]

42. Please see Post 39 for (another) substantive retort.

Thank you in advance.

[JonLeibowitz]

44. That is not a retort to the technical substance of Post #30. Still no counterargument on my post.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

47. I was laboring under the impression that you said our conversation was over.

"...Have a wonderful day."

[JonLeibowitz]

55. Your nonresponsive posts have shown a distinct lack of laboring. n/t

[DemocratSinceBirth]

57. It's the Shabbat . I am supposed to refrain from labor.

[Gwhittey]

35. HaHa

you said "cracking attempt" thank you!!. I as, someone who has been into computer programming since 1992, hate when people call it hacking because the Media changed the meaning to mean anything that is malicious with computers.

[politicaljunkie41910]

80. So the Chinese managed to break into the Office of Personnel Mgmt and download

files of individuals who have completed applications for Security Clearances giving the Chinese complete access to thousands of those people who have Secret and Top Secret clearances but they didn't bother to wipe away their fingerprints off that server. The same for those who hacked into the IRS and stole data on thousands of taxpayers records but though they were sophisticated enough to break in they left their trail that alerted authorities that they had been there but didn't wipe away their fingerprints which you say is so easy to do.

[yourpaljoey]

58. Inquiring minds want to know!

This is not going away and it should not go away.
We need answers.

[DCBob]

72. There was nothing illegal about her using a personal email server for her office correspondence.

As long as no classified information was passed through it. So far they have not found any email that was classified at the time it was sent/received.

[sufrommich]

4. Imagine the sadness freepers and some

Sanders supporters will have as this faux scandal fades to nothingness. Cool!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

23. They know it's all that stands between their candidate(s) and a crushing defeat.

[Fla Dem]

5. "It's just another boneheaded excrescence of the Benghazi pet rock."

Loved that comment in the article. Thanks for posting. Yes this will end up being another nothing soup.

[NurseJackie]

7. "Pet Rock" ... Ha! Perfect!

[66 dmhlt]

6. But we can count Andrea (nee Mitchell) Greenspan w/ her endless "DRIP, DRIP, DRIP" ...

God, that woman is annoying as HELL!

[CoffeeCat]

8. Clinton deleted emails; Rice and Powell's emails were preserved

This from the WaPo yesterday. Point at hand. Rice and Powell's emails were preserved. Clinton deleted 30,000 emails. I would like to hear from the FBI on the Powell and Rice emails with regard to classification. The St Dept is an arm of the WH so this could just be political bs.

"Former secretary of state Hillary Rodham Clinton appears to have operated in violation of what the White House said Tuesday was “very specific guidance” that members of the Obama administration use government e-mail accounts to carry out official business."

"At the State Department, spokeswoman Marie Harf said, “there was no prohibition on using a non-state.gov account for official business, as long as it’s preserved.”

(WaPo article comment)

[sufrommich]

10. .........

[CoffeeCat]

22. I'm doing fantastic! I'm on my second cup of coffee and all is peachy.

So, I'm angry...or whatever?

Just discussing the issues. Kinda hard to be too angry when you're drinking really strong coffee with Italian sweet cream in it.

[Depaysement]

66. Hell yeah

I wanna cup too!

Ok, I don't really need the donut.

[randome]

33. "For official business". She was well within her rights to delete personal mail.

Most government regulations contain this type of loophole.
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[leveymg]

9. If only this were as simple and easily dispensed with as some pretend.

Unfortunately, 2 federal Judges, 150 FBI agents, and the Inspectors General of the Intelligence Community and the State Department don't think this is "dribbling away to nothing" anytime soon.

Dream on, Kevin Drum.

[UglyGreed]

11. If I were

Hillary and the way everyone has attacked her over the years I would make sure I did things to avoid giving the enemy anything they could use against me and dot my I's and cross my T's........... just sayin

[A Simple Game]

70. You're right 99% of people would avoid giving the enemy anything to use against them.

Hillary? She thrives on playing the victim.

Or is she possibly that stupid? I really don't know.

[UglyGreed]

115. arrogance

might be to blame.

[A Simple Game]

116. Yes another strong possibility, even more likely a combination of all of the above. n/t

[vintx]

13. Yes and it will keep appearing to fade till the GE

if she gets the nomination.

[MoonRiver]

14. Slip Sliding Away

Awww, poor haters.

[wyldwolf]

15. I know a man...

... he came from my hometown
He wore his passion for his candidate like a thorny crown
He said Bernie I live in fear
My love for you's so overpowering, I'm afraid that I will disappear...

[MoonRiver]

20. Great rendition!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

26. You should start a thread about the super duper secure server.

Security Logs of Hillary Clinton’s Email Server Are Said to Show No Evidence of Hacking


WASHINGTON — A former aide to Hillary Clinton has turned over to the F.B.I. computer security logs from Mrs. Clinton’s private server, records that showed no evidence of foreign hacking, according to people close to a federal investigation into Mrs. Clinton’s emails.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/04/us/politics/security-logs-of-hillary-clintons-email-server-are-said-to-show-no-evidence-of-hacking.html

[lunamagica]

27. Thread winner!

[Bread and Circus]

24. But they do call it a scandal - interestingly enough

[mmonk]

25. Nothing on the security or Benghazi side. But IMO

plenty on the public corruption side if they look for it.

[jalan48]

34. I don't think anything will come of the email issue until after the election.

If Hillary wins there will be years of committees and investigations to keep the public distracted from what is really going on in our government and in places like Wall Street. Th public loves this stuff-a sex scandal would be better but we have to settle for what we can get.

[6chars]

82. once she is elected that will be the end of the story

[jalan48]

83. Actually, since the Republican's control Congress there will be never-ending investigations.

That's what they do and it serves as a perfect cover for business as usual.

[6chars]

107. worst case she could

preemptively pardon everyone involved including herself and there would be nothing to investigate.

[jalan48]

109. True-the Republicans do it. I think it's part of our Kabuki Democracy.

Keep the rubes looking in the other direction so they don't notice they are being fleeced.

[Trust Buster]

36. All of Hillary's emails have now been released. No government official in memory has had

such a thorough scrutiny of their correspondence. Stay thirsty my friends.

[Lazy Daisy]

38. She has apologized for her bad decision. It's time to move along.

And that line works for all her bad decisions.

[LS_Editor]

40. This isn't going away any time soon.

The FBI just gave the person who set her e-mail system up immunity. That is a bad sign for Hillary Clinton.

Benghazi is a bullshit scandal.

This one has some teeth.

I think having a presidential candidate under FBI investigation is a bad thing, but a sizable group here clearly does not.

[riversedge]

60. not when you believe the RW smut.

[LS_Editor]

88. FACT: The FBI has given immunity to someone and Hillary is under investigation.`

For using a private e-mail server.

Benghazi is RW smut. The FBI investigation is reality.

[CoffeeCat]

102. A Democrat presidential candidate and her email server are being investigated by the FBI

The Democratic party, as a whole, is concerned about this. I started following the articles because I am terrified that this has the potential to blow the election for us.

Do you want Trump in the White House?

Democrats who want this to end are following the FBI reports, nothing from the right-wing, I assure you.

[Lucinda]

43. Much ado...

KNR

[Mike Nelson]

45. Hillary will be cleared, then...

...they will move on to make the "Clinton Foundation Scandal" their main story. They will not rest until Hillary Clinton hands over the Lindberg baby!

[maindawg]

53. Not the Linberg baby

Just the transcripts from her speeches to Goldman Sax. Because that's where we will find her Romneyesque 47 percent statement. Where she assures the billionaires that she can control the rabble. If there was nothing there, we would have seen them by now.

[cheapdate]

46. The idea that FBI will bring charges against the U.S. Secretary of State

for communicating via email with her staff and advisers about matters related to diplomacy and foreign policy is almost incomprehensible. Unless she was sending troop positions to North Korea, I don't see anything coming of this.

[DCBob]

75. +1

[Persondem]

48. Exactly as it should be. K & R nt

[Beowulf]

49. Kevin Drum

Huge Hillary apologist.

[MaggieD]

50. LOL! Of course it does

Just another faux GOP scandal.

[Gary 50]

73. Exactly when did the FBI get taken over by the GOP?

I must have missed it. If that's not the case, if the Republican party does not control the FBI how can you say it's a faux GOP scandal? Please explain.

[DCBob]

76. The FBI had no choice but get involved.

The FOIA request required releasing emails that contained classified information. Those had to be scrutinized before being released.

[BillZBubb]

92. Wrong. Bob. Wrong.

This is a criminal investigation involving information in the emails not related to the FOIA. That is an entirely different investigation.

[DCBob]

95. The main focus is not criminal.

The focus is on whether classified information may have been compromised.

[BillZBubb]

96. You are still wrong Bob. But keep trying to spin it.

The main focus of the FBI is on a criminal matter.

[DCBob]

101. Prove it.

[monicaangela]

51. Good!

As Bernie says we are tired of hearing about her damn emails...there are more important fish to fry.

[Agnosticsherbet]

52. Plus the CIA is apparently obsessed with pretending that the US drone program is a deep, dark secret

[OnyxCollie]

68. It's a great way to assassinate people in Libya.

Of course, it tends to piss off the locals. See: Benghazi.

But that's O.K.; just blame it on the YouTubes.

[zappaman]

54. Not on DU it doesn't.

[pandr32]

56. There is nothing more to see here Folks

No scandal--it was a media made one ahead of the facts, and for the sole purpose of tainting Hillary Clinton with as much stink as possible before the election--to keep her from beating the Republican nominee.
The facts have shown there is nothing remotely worthy of the intense media scrutiny, but unfortunately is largely responsible for the "can't trust her" baloney that remains. She has been a victim.
Nobody who supports Sanders likes it when the media attacks him.

[Pauldg47]

62. This will be a continuous logjam for her that will diminish her ability as president.

[DCBob]

84. This fake scandal will go the way of Whitewater, Benghazi and Sidney Blumenthal.

The GOP will try to keep them alive but they are all dead horses that wont revive no matter how much beating.

[lark]

67. Over generalized

I am voting for Bernie but HRC emails having nothing to do with that and it's just another Benghanzi, Foster, BS story. Emails have zero to do with my decision, her being too corporatist is why Bernie is my first choice, plus Bernie is just so awesome.

[DCBob]

71. Thank goodness.. it was always a fake scandal.

Finally dying a deserved death.

[silenttigersong]

77. The rel event question at this point is Did Hillary Clinton stonewall and why?

Leave the investigation up to the Feds.The tech stuff to the professionals.The debate of merits of case to legal scholars.The leaks well hmmmm,that very well could be partisan.So once again it is as Sen.Sanders says a legal battle.I for one think ,the problem is partially Clinton's to have,which as her supporters will point out she has apologized for.This has been ongoing ,and detracted from time spent on real issues as Sen.Sanders states.We will see,you cannot blame Sen.Sanders for Clinton's problems.But censoring info about it making Benghazi joke meme well dare I say has many wondering ,why it would be anywhere near comical.

[HassleCat]

78. It would hurt her if voters were smarter.

Her emails show she used her position as Secretary of State to lobby for corporations do favors for political friends, etc. This is the kind of thing that should be damaging, but will not be. As long as there is no indictment, voters will continue to not care.

[CoffeeCat]

99. The FBI giving Brian Pagliano immunity has thrown the Clinton camp into hyper-spin

I agree with you that most people find Clinton's email scandal complicated and they often avoid tuning in and reading. I mean, who has time for that three-thousand word WaPol articles?

However, people do understand that the FBI granting immunity to the IT guy who set up HRC's server--is a big deal.

People "get" that. Very easy to understand.

When people start "getting" the details of the investigation, they begin paying attention and that can lead to damage.

My guess is that this Pagliano-immunity situation is problematic for Clinton. Maybe their internal polling is showing that this is damaging. With 69 percent untrustworthy numbers--that cut across all political lines--it doesn't take much to further erode her campaign.

The Clinton camp is certainly in PR overdrive--attempting to do damage control.

[oasis]

85. And Hillary has remained cool as a cucumber throughout.

Presidential.

[ucrdem]

98. Yep. When she got everybody laughing about it at the first debate

I knew she was in.

[AgingAmerican]

86. It was escalated this week

By Obama's FBI

[Skwmom]

87. Muddying the waters. What a surprise! Let's compare apples to apples, not apples to oranges.

Did Powell have Top Secret documents on a private server?

[AtomicKitten]

89. Did he instruct an aide to remove top secret headers & send through unsecured channels?

v

[Vinca]

90. The problem is, as it apparently fades away, it could turn into a giant stink bomb overnight.

She needs to be cleared before this goes much further. We can't run a candidate who is actively being investigated by the FBI.

[lovuian]

94. My prediction is Congress will get involved

after the FBI
because they will say the FBI was biased and call for a special prosecutor

drip drip drip

[Purveyor]

103. Dream On Little Dreamer

[UtahLib]

106. K&R

[DCBob]

108. This must be devastating to the Bernie die-hards.

Their last gasp hope to beat her.

[silenttigersong]

110. Okay

[DCBob]

111. Laughter is the best medicine they always say.

I hope it helps you.

[DesertRat]

112. k&r