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think

(11,641 posts)
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 12:08 PM Mar 2016

Today's talking point: Convolute Single Payer as just a "$15 trillion tax increase".

Get it while it's hot!:

Link to Today's Google News results for the term (15 trillion tax bernie sanders):
https://goo.gl/Mz6pkk


Everybody's doing it! Join in! Because Single Payer Health Care coverage is just another damn tax increase.....

No one wants Single Payer! Absolutely NO ONE!!

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lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
4. If we're going to treat "15t tax hike" as a legitimate argument, then I'm going with free stuff.
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 12:16 PM
Mar 2016

[font size="6" face="arial"]Sanders health care plan saves average family $16,555 a year![/font]

 

think

(11,641 posts)
10. Two memes for Single Payer that contradict themselves. Thank you for combining them to point out
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 12:32 PM
Mar 2016

the incredible inconsistency in the talking points being trotted out!

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
5. So, it appears by these types of presentations that
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 12:18 PM
Mar 2016

Supporters of the other candidates would Reject this ROI and Prefer that "we" have No say and No control over how and where our Tax Dollars are invested? Is that about right?

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
6. What kinds of Dems would smear a Dem with lies?
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 12:21 PM
Mar 2016

Don't we fight with truth, not lies? It seems inappropriate.

I think we now know who we're fighting. It's Dems and Repubs. How absurd.

 

MadDAsHell

(2,067 posts)
11. I'm surprised the "Medicare for All" moniker is so popular; current Medicare rates would bankrupt...
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 12:35 PM
Mar 2016

many providers if those losses weren't being subsidized by payments from commercial payers.

Something has got to happen with Medicare rates if that's going to be the only payer.

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
13. Medicare pays an extra $17 billion per year for prescription drugs versus prices paid
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 01:17 PM
Mar 2016

by Medicaid and the VA for the same drugs. And Medicaid and the VA pay significantly higher prices than most countries around the world.

The people who administer Medicare are forbidden from trying to negotiate lower prescription drug prices without getting approval from Congress.

Nanjeanne

(4,915 posts)
12. Too bad Politico doesn't pick up Citizens for Tax Justice Analysis which
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 12:39 PM
Mar 2016

contradicts the TPC analysis.

http://ctj.org/ctjreports/2016/02/bernie_sanders_health_care_tax_plan_would_raise_13_trillion_yet_increase_after-tax_incomes_for_all_i.php#.VtsEQpwrKUk

Also too bad that people read Politico for their "tax" analysis instead of actually reading the real analysis done by these organizations. If you do - you can see for yourself the flaws and as flawed as the TPC is - it's not anywhere as blatantly lying as the Politico article that gives no detail except to pull out a few numbers that mean nothing out of context - and includes a quote by someone who served in Bill Clinton's administration.

I wish people would really do their homework and look at things a bit more carefully - always consider a source and when possible - actually make up your own mind!

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