What about 'sell-out corporatist neocon?'

[bigtree]

...yep, it's in there.

Joanne Leon @joanneleon
Even the word "neocon" is censored this year at dkos if it's used in relation to Hillary. And "warmonger"




Joanne Leon ?@joanneleon 22h22 hours ago
Censoring rules at dkos better than ever this yr. No crit of estab, no use of word oligarch
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/3/4/1495813/-March-15-and-Daily-Kos-transition-to-General-Election-footing …




...I'm not huge a DKos fan, never posted there, read articles as they interest me, but I think this is a blunt, yet compelling set of guidelines for the general.

[kstewart33]

1. Wise words from Kos.

Thanks for posting.

[reformist2]

27. "Wise"? I think you meant to write "insane."

I find it hilarious that you're not even allowed to be pessimistic about her chances now. I mean, seriously?

[highprincipleswork]

2. I think stepping on people's feelings is a great way to win an election. (sarcasm)

If Hillary acts like a Progressive, she will get Progressive votes.

If not, it may be much harder now, now that a someone has stepped up who doesn't seem to be changing his spots for decades.

I really do challenge Hillary to continue the Progressive stances she has adopted from Bernie, especially after seeing how popular they are. Heck, even Donald Trump is borrowing them, and if Hilary is not careful, he will run more Populist and more Left than she does.

In any case, I hope against hope that she will not veer sharply to the right, even during the GE, but will maintain the sanity and correctness of Progressive-leaning views and policies that have the support of the majority of Americans.

[ismnotwasm]

3. Well if "oligarch" is a proscribed word

Bernard Sanders will never be able to post at Kos.

I do like these guidelines, and I "get" them because when political argument is reduced to grunts and single syllables or, conversely, a word salad type OP full of memes, well there is no point is there?

[Armstead]

12. Who determines what a "word salad" is?

[kath]

4. "What about 'sell-out corporatist neocon?'" - Well, if the shoe fits...

[John Poet]

19. KOS is a sell-out corporatist neocon.

You are what you support, me-says, and he does.

[Vattel]

5. She doesn't really deserve not to be called a warmonger.

[JackRiddler]

6. Rules for an irrelevant echo chamber.

People who subject themselves to that regime can blame themselves.

Makes for a small and delusional corner of the Internet.

I have always found this character repugnant. His desire to work for the CIA in his youth is no surprise.

[whatchamacallit]

7. ^^^THIS^^^

[bigtree]

9. to think

...that all of that insult, innuendo and invective toward our nominee in the general would represent some sort of redeeming enlightenment for readers, after a dismal and failing effort to advance a campaign with the same petty politics, is a classic definition of 'delusion.'

[JackRiddler]

10. You confuse criticism with insult.

And to think that people won't get what they want to read everywhere outside the Kos miniverse is delusional.

[bigtree]

14. I know the difference

...suggesting voters don't know their own minds is one of the more offensive tendencies of the Sanders supporter appeal these days.

You're right that people are free to go elsewhere. That makes a lie of the claims of censorship. There will certainly be plenty of anti-Democratic nominee forums that you're free to participate in.

[JackRiddler]

15. Sophistry & word games

[bigtree]

16. it all comes down to folks who want to campaign more against our Democratic nominee in the general

...than they do the republican.

Sophistry, indeed.

[whatchamacallit]

8. Kos is a downright hero

to those who find democracy inconvenient.

[John Poet]

20. Well, he was raised on Central American dictatorship--

so to speak.

Now he's acting like one. I guess he approves of Hillary's SOS activities in Honduras-- or at least one could infer that he does.

[whatchamacallit]

21. "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss" - TheWho

[Armstead]

11. Orwellian little blogmaster

[SidDithers]

13. Jeez, if "oligarch" isn't allowed at DU...

there will be posters with absolutely nothing to say.

Sid

[whatchamacallit]

18. Imagine what would happen to your vital input if we disallowed

and "DU rec".

[mythology]

28. To be fair, most of those have nothing useful to say which is why they resort to insults

[John Poet]

17. KOS is acting like one of the Central American dictatorships

his family fled before coming here.

He ought to know better.

[Waiting For Everyman]

22. So the truth is a disadvantage to Hillary, is it? Quelle surprise.

I don't know why anybody puts up with outright censorship like that, although I never joined there because I really dislike the format they have.

I certainly wouldn't put up with it here either though. I don't do thought control. Those who do can write the damn posts themselves, they won't get my help with that.

Censoring there or here won't unmake the facts, it will just make other sites bigger that report them.

[AZ Progressive]

23. MarKos Moulitsas Zuniga was sympathetic to the right wing dictatorship of El Salvador

From Markos' biography on Dailykos:

Moulitsas was born on September 11, 1971, in Chicago, IL. The son of a Salvadoran mother and Greek father, Moulitsas spent his formative years in El Salvador (1976-1980), where he saw first-hand the ravages of civil war. His family fled threats on their lives by the communist guerillas and settled in the Chicago area.

The "communist guerrillas" were after the rich power families. He must have been from a well connected family.

Some quotes from an article from the Washington Monthly:

Moulitsas was born in Chicago to a middle class, ethnically-Greek family from El Salvador (his uncle, an architect, had briefly been that country's education minister). The family moved back to El Salvador when Moulitsas was four and was on the right-wing side of the Cold War proxy fight there.

After high school, Moulitsas, then a Reagan Republican thanks largely to the White House's support of the Salvadorean government, spent four years as an army artillery scout, mainly in Germany.

[bigtree]

26. that means squat

...except that you disagree with his site's rules, so you've chosen to smear him with what I think amounts to outright slander.

There isn't ONE prominent person who's dared to deny the Sanders campaign whatever they want who hasn't had their character attacked in the most vicious way.

We all know if he favored Sanders he'd be a hero here. I'd call this type of politics sophomoric, if it wasn't so pernicious and destructive.

[AZ Progressive]

31. Its not slander to say that he was sympathetic to the right wing government in El Salvador

I already laid out the evidence, you've chosen to ignore it.

[bigtree]

32. you cut and pasted something about him being a child when his family emigrated here

...and you smeared him with the most horrible innuendo, based on what appears to be your own imagination.

[mhatrw]

24. LOL at Kos' equating "oligarch", "neocon", and "warmonger" to Free Republic.

Those perfectly objectively accurate labels for Hillary Clinton are the highest of compliments on Free Republic.

[retrowire]

25. No use of the word oligarch?

.... That's not even always used against Hillary. Are they protecting the ENTIRE corruption of a moneyed political machine over there?

Glad I never joined.

[Metric System]

29. Sanders supporters seem to be more interested in focusing attacks on Hillary than GOP.

[LWolf]

30. She's not the presumptive nominee, it's not over, and

it's not sloganeering to call an oligarch, or a neo-liberal, or a socialist, what he or she is.

Free Republic is where I'd go if I were so afraid to speak truth about all sides that I needed to hide.

And yes, there is some intended irony in that last statement.

I'm not a poster at dKos, though, so I don't have to comply with them.