2016 Postmortem
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(25,816 posts)reformist2
(9,841 posts)GoneOffShore
(17,339 posts)From everything I've ever read about her, she and Bill have always seemed to be carny grifters except not as honest.
At least with carny grifters you know from the get go that there is a grift.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)gregcrawford
(2,382 posts)... it seems more like something we wanted to believe of her, rather than what decades of evidence suggests. Like all politicians, the Clintons crafted polished personas and we all said, "Ooo! shiny!" and bought into it without even kicking the tires, let alone looking under the hood. The not-so-shiny truth has emerged slowly, dots have been connected, and realizations have dawned. Some remain stubbornly blind to the facts, lashing out at anyone who tries to guide them back to the light of reason.
I think the former Goldwater girl is nothing more than a ruthless opportunist who will say or do anything to achieve her goal: The presidency. "Public service" is just a cynical mask covering a burning desire for dominion over the lives of others.
You can't be in the pocket of an irredeemably evil company like Goldman Sachs and still claim that you're "for the people."
I was born at night, but not last night.
Sigh... But she's still better than any Republican Satan ever defecated. I hope.
Cavallo
(348 posts)Walmart.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)forest444
(5,902 posts)We need the one they can't.
All in it together
(275 posts)But, but, but she won't be influenced by the corporate money, don't worry she'll fight for us. And she'll get rid of these kind of corrupt campaign contributions. Sarcasm
JudyM
(29,233 posts)monmouth4
(9,694 posts)Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)Ivan Kaputski
(528 posts)That would be a DU TOS violation
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)Munches popcorn.
senz
(11,945 posts)They'd probably say Third Way is a variation on Democratic.
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)AgerolanAmerican
(1,000 posts)awesome slogan... that's all Bernie really needs to be to vault him way above all other options in this election
Not An Asshole for President!
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)We have a choice.
A vote for Bernie is a vote against that corruption.
It is truly a vote for democracy.
Feel the Bern!
dana_b
(11,546 posts)thanks for the find!
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Spin it the first time and it lands on how she feels about health care, trades and tariffs, energy, fair taxation, prison industry profits, minimum wage, higher public education.... etc., etc., etc....
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)Ivan Kaputski
(528 posts)lastone
(588 posts)#'s associated with each - I'd photoshop those in and re-post.
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Tragl1
(104 posts)thereismore
(13,326 posts)kgnu_fan
(3,021 posts)TIME TO PANIC
(1,894 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)This isn't working and time's running out. Tick-tock.
GoneOffShore
(17,339 posts)And all the ballots are counted.
And when they are, perhaps HRC's red carpet to the White House will have been rolled up.
We can only hope that that is the case. And there are those of us who are working to make sure that the carpet is rolled out for President Sanders.
paleotn
(17,911 posts)...by corporate entities who's interests rarely coincide with average Americans is perfectly OK? If so, I feel very sorry for you.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)I have no particular feelings about you one way or the other.
paleotn
(17,911 posts)....overwhelming evidence be damned. So what to Hill supporters do in response?
You still have my sympathy.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... except with regard to the personal feelings. I have none regarding you.
pinebox
(5,761 posts)Cavallo
(348 posts)Herman4747
(1,825 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)for enough people to take a good look at Hillary Clinton?
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Please feel free to tell us how proud you are!
jhart3333
(332 posts)Herman4747
(1,825 posts)Yes, Bernie is special!
porkified
(24 posts)she should be driving the republicrat clown car. wasted 2 votes on her husband that threw glass steagall under the bus then wasted 2 votes on Obama who first baled on single payer and then leaves us with tpp. We can have a quiet civilized revolution hopefully with Bernie or have a very messy one with the Donald.
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)She is fucking worthless.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)to know how many of those who'll vote for her are genuinely aware of the facts shown in this graphic. Of course, if you simply insist in exercising denial, it wouldn't matter if you'd seen this anyways.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Ivan Kaputski
(528 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)pinebox
(5,761 posts)Ivan Kaputski
(528 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)Something is wrong.
Ivan Kaputski
(528 posts)PatrickforO
(14,570 posts)A nice corporate one. Great for the Third Way types but for us? Not so much.