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DCBob

(24,689 posts)
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 09:54 PM Mar 2016

Hillary nailed Bernie on the auto bailout.

That's Michigan's biggest issue and Bernie voted against the bill that saved the MI auto industry. That is likely the main thing most MI voters watching this will take away from this debate.

Hillary wins.

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Hillary nailed Bernie on the auto bailout. (Original Post) DCBob Mar 2016 OP
But spyker29 Mar 2016 #1
Did he vote to bail out the auto industry? TheCowsCameHome Mar 2016 #2
He PROPERLY voted against TARP basselope Mar 2016 #7
He voted against the original bill that included auto bailout provisions. DCBob Mar 2016 #8
HRC lied. Bernie supported the bailout. n/t. Ken Burch Mar 2016 #3
She lied! Again! Chasstev365 Mar 2016 #4
No she didnt. He voted against the original bailout bill that included auto bailout provisions. DCBob Mar 2016 #9
Wall Street, Big Banks, Billionaires, top 1/10 of 1% timlot Mar 2016 #5
Yes, Bernie resorts to those terms all the time. Boring. riversedge Mar 2016 #11
He's gutted her on everything else... Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #6
Not really. DCBob Mar 2016 #10
No...Bernie made the point with Bank of Boeing Armstead Mar 2016 #26
well that is Ohio, MI, PA, and IN dsc Mar 2016 #14
K&R mcar Mar 2016 #12
More lies from Hillary. 840high Mar 2016 #13
No she didnt. He voted against the original bailout bill that included auto bailout provisions. DCBob Mar 2016 #16
Yes. Correct. He is spinning now nt fun n serious Mar 2016 #28
Not quite accurate Samantha Mar 2016 #15
He did vote against the original bailout bill that included auto bailout provisions. DCBob Mar 2016 #17
but supported the second version, as you can see from the quoted material (eom) Samantha Mar 2016 #20
Without the first bill the auto industry would have likely collapsed. DCBob Mar 2016 #22
Not really Samantha Mar 2016 #30
Dishonest dreamnightwind Mar 2016 #18
Without the original bill the auto industry would have likely collapsed. DCBob Mar 2016 #19
Why not a line of credit dreamnightwind Mar 2016 #21
Let's get the facts straight. Vattel Mar 2016 #23
I think Hillary was referring to the original tarp bailout.. DCBob Mar 2016 #25
But he voted for the earlier auto bailout bill. Vattel Mar 2016 #27
Agreed. nt tawadi Mar 2016 #24
Yes, she did! lunamagica Mar 2016 #29

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
8. He voted against the original bill that included auto bailout provisions.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 10:12 PM
Mar 2016

I think that's a fact... correct?

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
9. No she didnt. He voted against the original bailout bill that included auto bailout provisions.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 10:13 PM
Mar 2016

That's a fact.. correct?

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
6. He's gutted her on everything else...
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 10:02 PM
Mar 2016

...and the debate's playing to a national audience. Non-auto states voters don't give a rat's ass about the auto bailout.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
16. No she didnt. He voted against the original bailout bill that included auto bailout provisions.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 10:15 PM
Mar 2016

Correct?

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
15. Not quite accurate
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 10:14 PM
Mar 2016
http://www.vpr.net/news_detail/83206/leahy-sanders-reluctantly-support-auto-industry-rescue

(Host) Vermont's two U.S. Senators, Patrick Leahy and Bernie Sanders, say they're reluctantly supporting a $15 billion rescue package for the nation's auto industry.

Both senators say that allowing Ford, General Motors or Chrylser to fall into bankruptcy could affect a lot of auto related jobs in Vermont.

* * *

Senator Bernie Sanders voted against the $700 billion bail out of the financial services industry but he says this package is different:

(Sanders) "The problem is if you don't act in the midst of a growing recession what does it mean to create a situation where millions of more people become unemployed and that could spread and I have serious concerns about that I think it would be a terrible idea to add millions more to the unemployment rolls."

Sam

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
30. Not really
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 03:04 AM
Mar 2016

The funds to bail out Detroit were actually "siphoned" out of the TARP funds. Eventually, loans were established and a lot of the money was paid back. Wall Street didn't pay back a dime.

Sam

dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
18. Dishonest
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 10:33 PM
Mar 2016

Bernie was absoutely in favor of, and voted for, the auto bailout. The bill you speak of was the larger bailout bill, of which a small part was the auto bailout.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
19. Without the original bill the auto industry would have likely collapsed.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 10:48 PM
Mar 2016

The bill Bernie supported would have been too late.

dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
21. Why not a line of credit
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 10:54 PM
Mar 2016

like they gave to the large banks, in addition to TARP? The FED did this. The auto manufacturers had morphed into financial institutions as much as they were car companies, something that needs wider attention.

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
23. Let's get the facts straight.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:13 PM
Mar 2016

In December of 2008, Bernie voted for the first auto bailout bill, the one that died in the Senate. He voted against the big bailout bill that included an auto bailout the next year.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
25. I think Hillary was referring to the original tarp bailout..
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:26 PM
Mar 2016

which contained provisions for the auto industry. Bernie voted against that.

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