Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:17 PM

Women react to Sanders' "Excuse me I'm talking"

http://bluenationreview.com/bernie-sanders-to-hillary-clinton-im-talking/

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Women react to Sanders' "Excuse me I'm talking" (Original post)	stevenleser	Mar 2016	OP
BNR is a Brock propaganda outlet.	Qutzupalotl	Mar 2016	#1
Doesn't matter. Sanders actually said it and the Twitter quotes from women are real.	stevenleser	Mar 2016	#6
Doesn't matter that it's a site owned by Hillary's SuperPAC?	Kentonio	Mar 2016	#12
Unless you are saying Sanders didn't do it, nope doesn't matter. nt	stevenleser	Mar 2016	#18
I'll be sure to remind you of this	Kentonio	Mar 2016	#21
If you are standing by the information in them, sure. nt	stevenleser	Mar 2016	#24
Say, are you journalist Steven Leser?	JackRiddler	Mar 2016	#268
Damn, you beat me to it.	panader0	Mar 2016	#269
It does matter, since your OP claims this is "women" reacting, not merely a Hillary website reacting	merrily	Mar 2016	#109
Agreed!	Kittycat	Mar 2016	#114
I don't know any women who are reacting and I know a lot of women	Rosa Luxemburg	Mar 2016	#137
Me either and me too.	merrily	Mar 2016	#140
When it comes to discrimination against women---women are a monolith	Always Randy	Mar 2016	#256
Women are not a monolith in their perceptions of what = sexism, but that is beside the point.	merrily	Mar 2016	#264
It doesn't matter to our local Fox News pundit.	jeff47	Mar 2016	#29
I'm as much a Fox News pundit as Bernie is. I guess you can't vote for him.	stevenleser	Mar 2016	#38
You're the one with it on your resume. (nt)	jeff47	Mar 2016	#41
I don't have it on my resume. I can't speak for Bernie. nt	stevenleser	Mar 2016	#53
yep	AtomicKitten	Mar 2016	#54
Ooo! He'll be able to claim the chyron said strategist and not pundit!! (nt)	jeff47	Mar 2016	#62
Attacking me won't unsay it for Sanders, but please continue. nt	stevenleser	Mar 2016	#67
And there is no reason to un-say it. She was rude and kept interrupting him when it was hiis turn	pdsimdars	Mar 2016	#226
What in the World Were you Listening to?	LeFleur1	Mar 2016	#263
Ooooh, and with Falafel O'Loofah!	Aha	Mar 2016	#78
You mean like Bernie?	stevenleser	Mar 2016	#98
LOL, see my #98. And I am awaiting your attack on Sanders for doing the Townhall.	stevenleser	Mar 2016	#104
Oh really? Hillary has purchased Twitter followers	CoffeeCat	Mar 2016	#20
Good point. She purchased Facebook "likes" when she was SoS.	RufusTFirefly	Mar 2016	#116
HOLY SHIT! Can she get any phonier?!!!!!!!!!!	vintx	Mar 2016	#240
Our tax dollars at work. Thanks Hillary.	bklyncowgirl	Mar 2016	#247
Wouldn't be much of a stretch to believe she makes other purchases	RufusTFirefly	Mar 2016	#254
I'm a woman and you StevenLeser don't speak for me n/t	zazen	Mar 2016	#40
And you don't speak for those women on Twitter. nt	stevenleser	Mar 2016	#56
Those women don't speak for those	Gwhittey	Mar 2016	#141
See my #132 below, you can try to talk this away but it won't work. nt	stevenleser	Mar 2016	#142
Me too Zazen	dragonfly301	Mar 2016	#83
Or this woman.	840high	Mar 2016	#203
It matters and we know your agenda.	840high	Mar 2016	#201
I'm a woman	cannabis_flower	Mar 2016	#227
Well, given the OP, that's only logical. n/t	RufusTFirefly	Mar 2016	#8
You can shoot the messenger(s) as much as you want. Doesn't change the truth. nt	stevenleser	Mar 2016	#13
Why wouldn't he chide her for trying to talk over him in his timeslot?	kristopher	Mar 2016	#45
That's funny.	Control-Z	Mar 2016	#69
Never fear. This is just the latest shameless meme.	RufusTFirefly	Mar 2016	#75
It's a debate	All in it together	Mar 2016	#127
+She interrupts all the time. Goes on and on...	840high	Mar 2016	#205
THAT'S for sure.	polly7	Mar 2016	#241
What does the Washington Free Beacon say?	mcar	Mar 2016	#16
Heck, so is the OP writer...	artislife	Mar 2016	#86
You notice he was the first out of the gate with this?	Qutzupalotl	Mar 2016	#106
I was surprised actually,	artislife	Mar 2016	#108
Clintons are buying up as much media as they can	MaeScott	Mar 2016	#223
You mean Sanders has gone Trump on us.	Hoyt	Mar 2016	#2
Smells like brock...	Autumn	Mar 2016	#3
Meh	marions ghost	Mar 2016	#4
brock trash site	juxtaposed	Mar 2016	#5
See my #6 nt	stevenleser	Mar 2016	#7
See 'Anita Hill'. Do you even know who Brock is?	Bluenorthwest	Mar 2016	#258
So rude and condescending	mcar	Mar 2016	#9
She kept interrupting. I'd get pissed too.	Armstead	Mar 2016	#10
Guess we saw different debates	mcar	Mar 2016	#23
I'd suggest looking at a replay	Armstead	Mar 2016	#26
Funny she didn't do it then	mcar	Mar 2016	#36
Yes it is. It signals he wants to respond, don't move to next topic.	kristopher	Mar 2016	#47
In past debates she has steam-rolled over him	Karma13612	Mar 2016	#48
I didn't watch this interchange, but I have been frustrated in the past when Hillary	Frustratedlady	Mar 2016	#73
exactly	putitinD	Mar 2016	#202
you are not telling the truth ...... kind of debate etiquette.	trueblue2007	Mar 2016	#77
WTF are you talking about? That's what I said	Armstead	Mar 2016	#79
Sanders was talking; Hillary interrupted; Sanders told her he was talking	CoffeeCat	Mar 2016	#11
if he'd let her continue they'd call him a weakling.	JudyM	Mar 2016	#145
he didn't just tell her he was talking	6chars	Mar 2016	#195
Oh the humanity! (nt)	CoffeeCat	Mar 2016	#255
Brawk! Brawk Brawk Brawk bregawk!	bunnies	Mar 2016	#14
Best response!	Matariki	Mar 2016	#154
Yeah, she wouldn't shut-up and let anyone else have a word! Cooper shoulda used a hook to pull ...	ebayfool	Mar 2016	#15
Stay classy, David. n/t	DefenseLawyer	Mar 2016	#17
most women do not like people who interrupt be they male or female	awake	Mar 2016	#19
This is so important. Men should learn how to listen better	Bucky	Mar 2016	#44
what would your suggestions be?	JudyM	Mar 2016	#148
no, I was only making a joke about mansplaining	Bucky	Mar 2016	#152
Look, it is another Brock attack	TM99	Mar 2016	#22
It is tiresome.	Vattel	Mar 2016	#30
Brock site. Are the tweets real? Who knows?	Vattel	Mar 2016	#25
Not hard to figure out, just click on the Tweets they are real, as is the Sanders quote	stevenleser	Mar 2016	#27
Anyone can buy a certain amount of Twitter "followers"	Arazi	Mar 2016	#32
Also easy to figure out. These posters have a considerable history. Wrong again. nt	stevenleser	Mar 2016	#34
So you don't see a problem with how he spoke to Secretary Clinton? nt	fun n serious	Mar 2016	#59
I'm a woman	SheenaR	Mar 2016	#102
+1 from another woman. Lots of thin-skinned pretend-offense from the Clinton peeps.	JudyM	Mar 2016	#150
By real, I mean spontaneous reactions from independent sources.	Vattel	Mar 2016	#33
MSNBC talked about it, article on NY Times talked about it. Cartoonists immediately seized upon the	stevenleser	Mar 2016	#123
Which Hillary left a mark. Lol	MaeScott	Mar 2016	#224
Just because the media lept upon it	TM99	Mar 2016	#261
THIS woman thinks that's the appropriate thing to say to interrupters.	Matariki	Mar 2016	#28
THIS woman agrees with you	stopwastingmymoney	Mar 2016	#49
"That's not the sort of feminism I practice."	Matariki	Mar 2016	#57
Thanks!	stopwastingmymoney	Mar 2016	#129
This woman, too. n/t	TDale313	Mar 2016	#58
Add THIS woman also	dragonlady	Mar 2016	#130
raises hand	Lizzie Poppet	Mar 2016	#164
LOL	Matariki	Mar 2016	#165
another woman who agrees with you! n/t	dana_b	Mar 2016	#250
Her incessant interrupting was rude and bullying.	AtomicKitten	Mar 2016	#31
She was rude. Rudeness is genderless and being called on it isn't sexist	Arazi	Mar 2016	#35
Sorry, I am a woman and I reacted a different	sadoldgirl	Mar 2016	#37
Same here. Shut up and let him finish.	nc4bo	Mar 2016	#64
Its frustrating watching her interrupt him at every debate frequently and then wanting	glinda	Mar 2016	#96
I saw a huge turn against Bernie on FB during that one bad finger wagging	Lucinda	Mar 2016	#39
Yep, it looks like that was Bernie's "you're like able enough" moment	stevenleser	Mar 2016	#46
Prior to that debate, I saw little push back on Bernie's ads and posts, but after that	Lucinda	Mar 2016	#63
yeah, I think the constant finger wagging was far more obnoxious than the "excuse me" moment	Fast Walker 52	Mar 2016	#244
This woman LOVED it. Also loved the fact that he's not a pathological LIAR.	AzDar	Mar 2016	#42
I'm real. I'm not bought and I thought it was distasteful.	fun n serious	Mar 2016	#66
...	AzDar	Mar 2016	#71
Why?	Lizzie Poppet	Mar 2016	#160
Bernie also likes to interrupt.	fun n serious	Mar 2016	#175
And he should be called on it when he does.	Lizzie Poppet	Mar 2016	#177
It's classier to allow him to keep acting the way he does and let people see it. nt	fun n serious	Mar 2016	#179
Probably the best tack to take with her, too.	Lizzie Poppet	Mar 2016	#186
Yeah right. Bernie kicked her ass.	ThePhilosopher04	Mar 2016	#43
DU rec...	SidDithers	Mar 2016	#50
+1000	sheshe2	Mar 2016	#103
k&r	DesertRat	Mar 2016	#51
The Washington Post agrees.	Beacool	Mar 2016	#52
MSNBC just talked about it too. nt	stevenleser	Mar 2016	#65
yes Hillary the fragile flower who can't be responded to in any but dulcet tones....NOT	Armstead	Mar 2016	#89
Chris Cilizza -- Master of Trivia CW....Washington Post -- in the tank for Clinton	Armstead	Mar 2016	#88
It seems that a lot of people commented on this issue.	Beacool	Mar 2016	#99
See #132 below, looks like it is being talked about all over the place. nt	stevenleser	Mar 2016	#136
Apparently so.	Beacool	Mar 2016	#178
Not in my household.	OwlinAZ	Mar 2016	#200
That waving his finger in her face...SO RUDE	lunamagica	Mar 2016	#55
That's a debate signal...They all do it to let moderator know they want to respond	Armstead	Mar 2016	#91
They have set times to talk and respond, so, no, that is not it Besides, the finger waving would	lunamagica	Mar 2016	#94
They raise their fingers to signal they want a chance to respond after	Armstead	Mar 2016	#97
NO, they have a set time to talk and respond. And he'd start a soon as she started to talk.	lunamagica	Mar 2016	#101
Rude! Zero points.	NurseJackie	Mar 2016	#60
Reminiscent of Al Gore sighing which lost him the debate	redstateblues	Mar 2016	#115
Oh My	noretreatnosurrender	Mar 2016	#61
Must. Find. Some. Controversy. That way, we're not talking issues, we're talking	nc4bo	Mar 2016	#68
Anything to avoid talking issues.	Beowulf	Mar 2016	#70
the brock gazette - journalism at its finest	virtualobserver	Mar 2016	#72
Did you not see the debate?	fun n serious	Mar 2016	#84
As a woman, I find this type of attack on Bernie really insulting.	TDale313	Mar 2016	#74
No one forced Bernie to respond rude and angry. nt	fun n serious	Mar 2016	#80
No one forced Hillary to be bullying and	TM99	Mar 2016	#92
She barely tried to talk when he screamed at her. nt	fun n serious	Mar 2016	#181
Bullshit.	TM99	Mar 2016	#188
Post removed	Post removed	Mar 2016	#210
BS - poor Hillary.	840high	Mar 2016	#208
Brock's crappy website.	Aha	Mar 2016	#76
Really? The sexist card? She's running for President, for chrissake...	dchill	Mar 2016	#81
Do you not see him dance, jump, make faces and wag his finger when it is NOT his turn to talk? nt	fun n serious	Mar 2016	#183
Does that not strike you as exaggeration?	dchill	Mar 2016	#189
No. nt	fun n serious	Mar 2016	#194
Well, then, you stand corrected.	dchill	Mar 2016	#196
Bernie was right it was his allotted time to speak and Hillary kept interrupting.	Uncle Joe	Mar 2016	#82
There is NOTHING wrong with what he said!	Chasstev365	Mar 2016	#85
Aren't you a journalist or something?	noamnety	Mar 2016	#87
Are you serious?	Gwhittey	Mar 2016	#151
K&R	UtahLib	Mar 2016	#90
Pffft	yourpaljoey	Mar 2016	#93
Apparently, women are too weak to take it.	Luminous Animal	Mar 2016	#95
I can't believe you were alerted for this post.	Aerows	Mar 2016	#187
I have exactly one female FB friend who was disturbed by that.	Blue_In_AK	Mar 2016	#100
K&R!	sheshe2	Mar 2016	#105
If she had said it - she'd have been anointed a feminist god by now.	bunnies	Mar 2016	#107
Why are we wasting time talking about BS propaganda	Jarqui	Mar 2016	#110
So she rudely interrupted Sander's and that's OK because she's Hillary?	imagine2015	Mar 2016	#111
unbelievable	TheFarseer	Mar 2016	#112
Better than "STFU while I'm talking!" In a situation like that I'll usually say, "excuse me, was I	brewens	Mar 2016	#113
Post removed	Post removed	Mar 2016	#117
Nope. Unless you are saying Sanders didnt say it, you have no point.	stevenleser	Mar 2016	#119
Pretending that BlueNationReview is anything but	John Poet	Mar 2016	#122
That is only an argument if you are saying Sanders didn't say it. He did say it. nt	stevenleser	Mar 2016	#124
I'm only talking about your link to a Brock propoganda organ.	John Poet	Mar 2016	#138
Then you have lost the argument. See my #132, its all over all different kinds of media.	stevenleser	Mar 2016	#143
I don't really give a shit about that,	John Poet	Mar 2016	#146
Then you have no point at all. nt	stevenleser	Mar 2016	#147
Jury results	metroins	Mar 2016	#220
Lol, temper temper Steve! Fox News hates bad language. Nt	Logical	Mar 2016	#128
What??? I was not offended by him saying 'I am talking' when she interrupted him ...	slipslidingaway	Mar 2016	#118
No Hillary was rude by interupting n/t	silenttigersong	Mar 2016	#120
BNR was recently bought by David Brock. He and Peter Daou et al use it as an attack hammer	madfloridian	Mar 2016	#121
Lol, nice try Stevie!	Logical	Mar 2016	#125
But yet she's so tough she can take on Trump, eh?	Waiting For Everyman	Mar 2016	#126
The poutrage is strong in this one.	Fearless	Mar 2016	#131
Courtesy of MADEM in another thread this is popping up in media all over the place	stevenleser	Mar 2016	#132
Yep, it's all over the place. It's a conspiracy!!!!!!!!!!!!!	grossproffit	Mar 2016	#134
And it's all my fault according to many posters here.	stevenleser	Mar 2016	#176
No, but you've become part of the problem with media in this country.	noamnety	Mar 2016	#234
Notice how all those thread titles start with, "Excuse me?"	dchill	Mar 2016	#206
You're going with the old oblivious to tone and context play? Good luck. nt	stevenleser	Mar 2016	#207
Thanks. much appreciated	riversedge	Mar 2016	#221
She was cheating by talking through his turn.	Cheese Sandwich	Mar 2016	#133
I would have just told her to shut the fuck up and quit stealing my time to talk	Cheese Sandwich	Mar 2016	#135
+1 !!! nt.	polly7	Mar 2016	#243
Wow-Hillary really is royalty.	jalan48	Mar 2016	#139
Oh Jesus goddamn fucking Christ.	WIProgressive88	Mar 2016	#144
David Brock was so polite to Anita Hill	jfern	Mar 2016	#149
What is sad	Gwhittey	Mar 2016	#153
That wasn't a difficult prediction. Sanders had already been close to the line in previous debates.	stevenleser	Mar 2016	#155
Your concern about women having to follow the rules is duly noted.	Kalidurga	Mar 2016	#156
See my #132 below, you can try to talk this away but it won't work.	stevenleser	Mar 2016	#158
I don't care if it goes away or not.	Kalidurga	Mar 2016	#166
Nope, she wasn't interrupting nor was that the discussion, you made that up out of thin air.	stevenleser	Mar 2016	#167
So Bernie says Excuse me I was talking	Kalidurga	Mar 2016	#171
It was in response so numerous interruptions by Hillary.	OwlinAZ	Mar 2016	#204
I have seen them debate more than a couple times	Kalidurga	Mar 2016	#213
Somebody should've interrupted Hillary when she was speaking on the Senate floor for 20 minutes . .	Major Hogwash	Mar 2016	#157
I'm a woman, last I looked, and I was fine with that.	Lizzie Poppet	Mar 2016	#159
He treated her like an equal	DebDoo	Mar 2016	#161
I hope they reacted to Hillary's rude interruption just 1 1/2 seconds into Bernie's turn, and every	silvershadow	Mar 2016	#162
I do remember	Jake2413	Mar 2016	#163
Dang.	The Midway Rebel	Mar 2016	#168
See my #132. You can attack me all you want, it won't help.	stevenleser	Mar 2016	#169
Yeah, I know.	The Midway Rebel	Mar 2016	#170
Nope. Nothing you can say to me will stop the articles all over the media. nt	stevenleser	Mar 2016	#172
Does your desperation to keep this thread kicked count as part of the media blitz?	The Midway Rebel	Mar 2016	#173
Well, ask yourself. You are kicking it as much as I am. nt	stevenleser	Mar 2016	#174
Kicking it? How about shredding it.	Matariki	Mar 2016	#182
You can't shred it. Its not a DU meme. Its all over the media. nt	stevenleser	Mar 2016	#184
"awareness of this issue" ROFLMAO!	Matariki	Mar 2016	#180
See my #184 and my #132. nt	stevenleser	Mar 2016	#185
Wtf do you keep ordering people to look up your posts?	polly7	Mar 2016	#265
Would it be ok for @HillaryClinton to make faces, smirk at Sen Sanders comments & shake her finger a	riversedge	Mar 2016	#190
I almost forgot about the stupid smirking. He always does that when he is caught too.	stevenleser	Mar 2016	#191
Other women seem to think posts like this are sexist	Quixote1818	Mar 2016	#192
But we're expected to be Hillary's sheep if we are female.	Cobalt Violet	Mar 2016	#230
Yes, yikes	Aerows	Mar 2016	#193
See my #132 above. Attacking me won't help. But your pointless ad-hominem is noted. nt	stevenleser	Mar 2016	#198
What do you say to the women who say your pedeling this kind of ilk is what actually is sexist?	Quixote1818	Mar 2016	#209
I say exactly what I said to the other poster. Addressing your comments to me is pointless.	stevenleser	Mar 2016	#211
I will ask it again. Do you think Bernie is sexist?	Quixote1818	Mar 2016	#214
Since I started this OP, my question first. Do you discount the women who find it sexist?	stevenleser	Mar 2016	#215
To be quite frank, yes because the other women's arguments are 1000 times more compelling.	Quixote1818	Mar 2016	#216
Take it up with those women. They are on Twitter. nt	stevenleser	Mar 2016	#217
So you refuse to answer my question then?	Quixote1818	Mar 2016	#218
Yeah, they're playing victim for something that didn't exist.	polly7	Mar 2016	#245
What a surprise eh.	ucrdem	Mar 2016	#197
If some women didn't like "excuse me, I'm talking," then they are being sexist.	amborin	Mar 2016	#199
.+10	840high	Mar 2016	#212
Instructional	Matariki	Mar 2016	#219
Yes, and the Steven Lesser of 2008	TM99	Mar 2016	#262
no doubt - it was rude . . . I was surprised to hear that . . .	DrDan	Mar 2016	#222
Bunch of nonsense	pdsimdars	Mar 2016	#225
Brock's rat fuck rag.	morningfog	Mar 2016	#228
Well this woman say "Good for him, Go Bernie, Go"	Cobalt Violet	Mar 2016	#229
She interrupted HIM. She interrupted/ignored Anderson. She talked and talked even ...	agracie	Mar 2016	#231
WEAK...how about the Queen dismissing 2 black women?	noiretextatique	Mar 2016	#232
If they couldn't play victim or make her one they'd have nothing to run on. nt.	polly7	Mar 2016	#242
What is the proper response ...	beedle	Mar 2016	#233
As a woman, considering how rude Hillary was being, I'd have said "STFU already."	Vinca	Mar 2016	#235
Not the first time that Bernie was rude and sexist...	Sancho	Mar 2016	#236
"He really needs to have fewer debates at this point."	NurseJackie	Mar 2016	#246
Some people will do anything for a buck. n/t	Skwmom	Mar 2016	#237
Title is wrong, it should be SOME women react	pdsimdars	Mar 2016	#238
Did you bother looking at any tweets yourself?	vintx	Mar 2016	#239
So the woman who stood up to a 12 hour grilling from a Senate Committee out to hang her is a wuss?	bklyncowgirl	Mar 2016	#248
I'm a woman	dana_b	Mar 2016	#249
From Hillary basher in '08 to enthusiastic supporter today.	hobbit709	Mar 2016	#251
yes it does	Go Vols	Mar 2016	#266
I am a woman and my reaction is he was correct	aintitfunny	Mar 2016	#252
Poor Hillary.	tazkcmo	Mar 2016	#253
.	UglyGreed	Mar 2016	#257
You mean "Clinton supporters react..." n/t	Orsino	Mar 2016	#259
2008:	Bluenorthwest	Mar 2016	#260
Better Check This Out if you're Voting	Sweetearth	Mar 2016	#267

Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:18 PM

Qutzupalotl (13,254 posts)

1. BNR is a Brock propaganda outlet.

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Response to Qutzupalotl (Reply #1)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:19 PM

stevenleser (32,886 posts)

6. Doesn't matter. Sanders actually said it and the Twitter quotes from women are real.

Doesn't matter who reports it.

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #6)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:21 PM

Kentonio (4,377 posts)

12. Doesn't matter that it's a site owned by Hillary's SuperPAC?

What an interesting view of the world you have..

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Response to Kentonio (Reply #12)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:21 PM

stevenleser (32,886 posts)

18. Unless you are saying Sanders didn't do it, nope doesn't matter. nt

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #18)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:22 PM

Kentonio (4,377 posts)

21. I'll be sure to remind you of this

Next time some right wing news sites have a story about Hillary's emails.

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Response to Kentonio (Reply #21)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:24 PM

stevenleser (32,886 posts)

24. If you are standing by the information in them, sure. nt

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #24)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 04:46 PM

JackRiddler (24,979 posts)

268. Say, are you journalist Steven Leser?

The one who works or worked for free as a pundit for FOXNEWS? I don't watch it, so I don't know.

The one who said this?

Journalist Steve Leser in 2008: Hillary is a liar.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251658816

Now why would you be duplicating from David Brock's odious campaign attack site?

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Response to JackRiddler (Reply #268)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 04:52 PM

panader0 (25,593 posts)

269. Damn, you beat me to it.

More weather vane BS.

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #18)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:18 AM

merrily (45,251 posts)

109. It does matter, since your OP claims this is "women" reacting, not merely a Hillary website reacting

Women are not a monolith. Stereotyping and lumping us all together is NOT the least bit cool.

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Response to merrily (Reply #109)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:24 AM

Kittycat (10,493 posts)

114. Agreed!

This women found HRC offensive and rude, but they're on opposite sides. However, it was good seeing the ISSUES vigorously debated, instead of focusing on the merits or lack of ones body parts. The GOP debate was a national embarrassment!!!

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Response to merrily (Reply #109)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:14 AM

Rosa Luxemburg (28,627 posts)

137. I don't know any women who are reacting and I know a lot of women

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Response to Rosa Luxemburg (Reply #137)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:19 AM

merrily (45,251 posts)

140. Me either and me too.

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Response to merrily (Reply #109)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 11:03 AM

Always Randy (986 posts)

256. When it comes to discrimination against women---women are a monolith

I have been in the business world for 50 years----behind the doors men make plans without and against women---------if women are not monolithic on this that stupidity of men will continue----Rush calling them sluts ------Trump alluding to their periods ---O'Reilly playing loofah with them, ---my aunt was a senior official at McGraw Hill---when there was a business meeting at a men's club she had to go in through the kitchen------even if you don't like HRC-----at least it would be good to enjoy Limbaugh melt in front of her----and he will---he's first on the list-----as a father of 3 women and the grandfather of 5 ---it is time for a women in that White House-------HRC is not my Favorite -----Elizabeth Warren is more to my liking----but that is not going to happen ---so if HRC does not go in ---I doubt the wealthy will let Bernie anywhere near the Presidency----so maybe a few years of Trump or Cruz will make women be more monolithic----men need to be shown a lot of things ----they are very slow learners ----particularly on women's issues -------but HRC will help them learn that a woman is quite capable of making some decisions for men that truly need to be made-----it will be liberating for most men ----it used to be stylish to make fun of gays for these me who would limp their wrist and speak stereo-typically ------it has been drowned out a lot after Obama position on the issue ----it takes leadership-----all those bigots have also watched their heroes be outsmarted by the "black guy" over and over ------if HRC wins-----they will be wishing Obama was back in the White House----because the bottom line is that --if they have to---they can listen to a black MAN ----but God forbid they have to listen to a woman----on this issue women need to be monolithic---

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Response to Always Randy (Reply #256)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:35 PM

merrily (45,251 posts)

264. Women are not a monolith in their perceptions of what = sexism, but that is beside the point.

I was replying to someone who equated something said on a Hillary website with "women" speaking out. Not only is that not an accurate statement, but that treats women like a monolith. If something appeared on Bernie Sanders.com and I claimed that equaled men speaking out, people would laugh and/or get offended and rightly so.

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Response to Kentonio (Reply #12)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:28 PM

jeff47 (26,549 posts)

29. It doesn't matter to our local Fox News pundit.

Steve would have a lot less airtime if propaganda outfits bothered him.

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Response to jeff47 (Reply #29)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:31 PM

stevenleser (32,886 posts)

38. I'm as much a Fox News pundit as Bernie is. I guess you can't vote for him.

Welcome to team Hillary!

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #38)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:33 PM

jeff47 (26,549 posts)

41. You're the one with it on your resume. (nt)

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Response to jeff47 (Reply #41)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:37 PM

stevenleser (32,886 posts)

53. I don't have it on my resume. I can't speak for Bernie. nt

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Response to jeff47 (Reply #41)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:37 PM

AtomicKitten (46,585 posts)

54. yep

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Response to AtomicKitten (Reply #54)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:42 PM

jeff47 (26,549 posts)

62. Ooo! He'll be able to claim the chyron said strategist and not pundit!! (nt)

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Response to jeff47 (Reply #62)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:43 PM

stevenleser (32,886 posts)

67. Attacking me won't unsay it for Sanders, but please continue. nt

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #67)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 07:39 AM

pdsimdars (6,007 posts)

226. And there is no reason to un-say it. She was rude and kept interrupting him when it was hiis turn

and when someone is constantly being rude, you say, "Excuse me, I was talking." It is the polite way of telling them that they are being rude and they should shut up and let someone else speak. And SHE was being rude with her constant interruptions.

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Response to pdsimdars (Reply #226)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:06 PM

LeFleur1 (1,197 posts)

263. What in the World Were you Listening to?

EVERY time Hillary spoke and told of her plans Bernie was standing beside her making faces, stepping back, waving his finger, trying to take attention away from what she was saying. He was extremely rude and that isn't even counting him having the audacity to tell another candidate, with way more experience in the world, to be quiet so he could repeat his canned speech. Rude. Very Rude.

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Response to AtomicKitten (Reply #54)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:50 PM

Aha (53 posts)

78. Ooooh, and with Falafel O'Loofah!

Not surprising.

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Response to Aha (Reply #78)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:13 AM

stevenleser (32,886 posts)

98. You mean like Bernie?

Besides, weren't you guys just saying how terrific it is to try to reach viewers on Fox when Bernie said he would do the Townhall there?

Can you guys be consistent on anything? Just one thing?

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Response to AtomicKitten (Reply #54)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:14 AM

stevenleser (32,886 posts)

104. LOL, see my #98. And I am awaiting your attack on Sanders for doing the Townhall.

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #6)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:22 PM

CoffeeCat (24,411 posts)

20. Oh really? Hillary has purchased Twitter followers

how do we know this isn't bought-and-paid for outrage from Hillary's peanut gallery?

We don't.

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Response to CoffeeCat (Reply #20)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:28 AM

RufusTFirefly (8,812 posts)

116. Good point. She purchased Facebook "likes" when she was SoS.

State Department Facebook: DOS spent $630,000 On 'Likes' For Social Media Pages, Report Indicates

More than 2 MILLION of Hillary Clinton's Twitter followers are fake or never tweet – and she's already under fire for 'buying' fake Facebook fans

Kind of sad, really. I mean, what kind of person has to buy friends?

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Response to RufusTFirefly (Reply #116)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 09:13 AM

vintx (1,748 posts)

240. HOLY SHIT! Can she get any phonier?!!!!!!!!!!

How is that not bigger news?

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Response to RufusTFirefly (Reply #116)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:14 AM

bklyncowgirl (7,960 posts)

247. Our tax dollars at work. Thanks Hillary.

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Response to bklyncowgirl (Reply #247)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:40 AM

RufusTFirefly (8,812 posts)

254. Wouldn't be much of a stretch to believe she makes other purchases

A well-placed shill is like an agent provocateur in a non-violent rally. If he's paid to throw the first punch, it's a sad but safe bet that the fighting that follows will often come for free.

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #6)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:33 PM

zazen (2,978 posts)

40. I'm a woman and you StevenLeser don't speak for me n/t

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Response to zazen (Reply #40)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:39 PM

stevenleser (32,886 posts)

56. And you don't speak for those women on Twitter. nt

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #56)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:23 AM

Gwhittey (1,377 posts)

141. Those women don't speak for those

women on twitter. If that is the case then Donald Trump is loved by Latinos if go by the fact 1000s of Followers of his are Latino names that tweet out how great he is.

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Response to Gwhittey (Reply #141)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:23 AM

stevenleser (32,886 posts)

142. See my #132 below, you can try to talk this away but it won't work. nt

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Response to zazen (Reply #40)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:52 PM

dragonfly301 (399 posts)

83. Me too Zazen

ffs it's 2016 and HRC is running for POTUS - she shouldn't be treated any differently.

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Response to zazen (Reply #40)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 03:36 AM

840high (17,196 posts)

203. Or this woman.

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #6)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 03:35 AM

840high (17,196 posts)

201. It matters and we know your agenda.

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #6)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 07:54 AM

cannabis_flower (3,678 posts)

227. I'm a woman

and she kept interrupting him. I would have said the same thing, and if Hillary was a man or Sanders was another woman we wouldn't be talking about it.

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Response to Qutzupalotl (Reply #1)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:20 PM

RufusTFirefly (8,812 posts)

8. Well, given the OP, that's only logical. n/t

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Response to RufusTFirefly (Reply #8)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:21 PM

stevenleser (32,886 posts)

13. You can shoot the messenger(s) as much as you want. Doesn't change the truth. nt

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #13)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:34 PM

kristopher (29,798 posts)

45. Why wouldn't he chide her for trying to talk over him in his timeslot?

She cheats and her supporters are incensed that she was called on it. Typical.

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Response to kristopher (Reply #45)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:45 PM

Control-Z (15,681 posts)

69. That's funny.

He had just interrupted her. What a piece of work.

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Response to kristopher (Reply #45)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:48 PM

RufusTFirefly (8,812 posts)

75. Never fear. This is just the latest shameless meme.

Most times they fail, but occasionally they succeed, primarily because they're broadcast by the world's most powerful bullhorn. Even more powerful than this election law breaker's one.

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Response to kristopher (Reply #45)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:46 AM

All in it together (275 posts)

127. It's a debate

Hillary doesn't get to talk all the time. Bernie did great.

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Response to kristopher (Reply #45)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 03:39 AM

840high (17,196 posts)

205. +She interrupts all the time. Goes on and on...

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Response to 840high (Reply #205)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 09:20 AM

polly7 (20,582 posts)

241. THAT'S for sure.

This whole 'excuse me!' thing is so damn pathetic.

SEXISM is trying to make her some sort of little victim for not being allowed to go on and on with her interrupting and verbal bullying.

So fucking sad.

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Response to Qutzupalotl (Reply #1)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:21 PM

mcar (40,524 posts)

16. What does the Washington Free Beacon say?

That seems to be a very acceptable source.

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Response to Qutzupalotl (Reply #1)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:56 PM

artislife (9,497 posts)

86. Heck, so is the OP writer...

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Response to artislife (Reply #86)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:15 AM

Qutzupalotl (13,254 posts)

106. You notice he was the first out of the gate with this?

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Response to Qutzupalotl (Reply #106)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:17 AM

artislife (9,497 posts)

108. I was surprised actually,

I thought I had him on ignore...I must have taken him off.

But yeah, rather predictable.

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Response to Qutzupalotl (Reply #1)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 07:13 AM

MaeScott (870 posts)

223. Clintons are buying up as much media as they can

Even Kos has gone corporate centrist

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:19 PM

Hoyt (54,770 posts)

2. You mean Sanders has gone Trump on us.

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:19 PM

Autumn (42,593 posts)

3. Smells like brock...

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:19 PM

marions ghost (19,841 posts)

4. Meh

---she is just as likely to say that to him.

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:19 PM

juxtaposed (2,778 posts)

5. brock trash site

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Response to juxtaposed (Reply #5)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:20 PM

stevenleser (32,886 posts)

7. See my #6 nt

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #7)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 11:24 AM

Bluenorthwest (45,319 posts)

258. See 'Anita Hill'. Do you even know who Brock is?

I don't get how anyone can associate with that sort of rhetoric while claiming to respect women.

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:20 PM

mcar (40,524 posts)

9. So rude and condescending

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:21 PM

Armstead (47,803 posts)

10. She kept interrupting. I'd get pissed too.

But I guess if she's a fragile little woman I guess he should have just let her talk over him.

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Response to Armstead (Reply #10)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:23 PM

mcar (40,524 posts)

23. Guess we saw different debates

He waved his hand at her, interrupted, told her to stop talking and regularly talked over the time. But when she did it he'd start the arm flailing again.

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Response to mcar (Reply #23)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:26 PM

Armstead (47,803 posts)

26. I'd suggest looking at a replay

Some of his hand waving was him being quiet and letting her talk, but signaling to the moderators he wanted to speak afterward. Making sure he would have a turn. That's kind of debate etiquette.

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Response to Armstead (Reply #26)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:31 PM

mcar (40,524 posts)

36. Funny she didn't do it then

There were only two people on the stage. It wasn't necessary for him to wave his hand to get a chance to speak. He had plenty of time.

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Response to mcar (Reply #36)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:35 PM

kristopher (29,798 posts)

47. Yes it is. It signals he wants to respond, don't move to next topic.

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Response to mcar (Reply #36)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:35 PM

Karma13612 (4,290 posts)

48. In past debates she has steam-rolled over him

and the moderators would not allow him adequate equal time to rebutt.

Tonight he owned the stage.

I am a woman, and I was proud he told her to let him finish.

He did not interrupt her. He spoke, she interrupted and he told her to wait her turn.

THAT is how it went down.

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Response to Karma13612 (Reply #48)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:47 PM

Frustratedlady (16,252 posts)

73. I didn't watch this interchange, but I have been frustrated in the past when Hillary

talked over Bernie and he politely held back his comments in deference to her. Watching this happen time after time, I wanted to shake some decency into Hillary, so I can understand how frustrated Bernie would finally become. Good for him!

And, yes! I am a woman and I approve.

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Response to Karma13612 (Reply #48)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 03:35 AM

putitinD (1,551 posts)

202. exactly

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Response to Armstead (Reply #26)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:49 PM

trueblue2007 (16,337 posts)

77. you are not telling the truth ...... kind of debate etiquette.

Lie, you can not interrupt the speaker when they still have time and the floor.

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Response to trueblue2007 (Reply #77)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:51 PM

Armstead (47,803 posts)

79. WTF are you talking about? That's what I said

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:21 PM

CoffeeCat (24,411 posts)

11. Sanders was talking; Hillary interrupted; Sanders told her he was talking

Your attempt at making a mountain out of a molehill is laughable.

Then again, your side has tried to say that Bernie is sexist for much, much less.

And then quoting Brock's website.

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Response to CoffeeCat (Reply #11)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:32 AM

JudyM (26,138 posts)

145. if he'd let her continue they'd call him a weakling.

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Response to CoffeeCat (Reply #11)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 03:09 AM

6chars (3,967 posts)

195. he didn't just tell her he was talking

he said excuse me.

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Response to 6chars (Reply #195)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:45 AM

CoffeeCat (24,411 posts)

255. Oh the humanity! (nt)

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:21 PM

bunnies (15,859 posts)

14. Brawk! Brawk Brawk Brawk bregawk!

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Response to bunnies (Reply #14)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:46 AM

Matariki (18,775 posts)

154. Best response!

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:21 PM

ebayfool (3,411 posts)

15. Yeah, she wouldn't shut-up and let anyone else have a word! Cooper shoulda used a hook to pull ...

her in when she droned on way past her time while not really answering a direct question!

And David Brock? Pffft! Try harder, dear. Your bias is showing.

Yikes indeed.

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:21 PM

DefenseLawyer (11,101 posts)

17. Stay classy, David. n/t

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:22 PM

awake (3,226 posts)

19. most women do not like people who interrupt be they male or female

I do not no any woman who has not said "Excuse me I'm talking" on more than one occasion.

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Response to awake (Reply #19)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:33 PM

Bucky (52,291 posts)

44. This is so important. Men should learn how to listen better

As a man I think I should explain to you little ladies how to speak up for yallselves better too.

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Response to Bucky (Reply #44)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:34 AM

JudyM (26,138 posts)

148. what would your suggestions be?

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Response to JudyM (Reply #148)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:44 AM

Bucky (52,291 posts)

152. no, I was only making a joke about mansplaining

I honestly think we just have to cultivate the value of listening in our society. Men aren't very good at it. We interrupt women about twice as much as women interrupt men in conversations. There's not really A solution, just a need to bring up boys with models of active listening.

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:23 PM

TM99 (8,352 posts)

22. Look, it is another Brock attack

being pushed by the Clinton supporters.

She kept interrupting. It was his turn to speak. He did the appropriate thing.

To make this a 'sexist' thing is bullshit. Is she a fragile little woman? No, she is not. Is she not capable of following the rules? Yes, she is.

Yet again, nothing on policies, just fucking identity politics.

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Response to TM99 (Reply #22)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:28 PM

Vattel (9,289 posts)

30. It is tiresome.

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:25 PM

Vattel (9,289 posts)

25. Brock site. Are the tweets real? Who knows?

Brock's Correct the Record put the following into a commercial right before the Nevada caucus:

“Bernie Sanders on Immigrants: Silly, Tribal, and Economically Illiterate” Newsweek, July 30, 2015

Of course Sanders never called immigrants silly, tribal or economically illiterate.

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Response to Vattel (Reply #25)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:27 PM

stevenleser (32,886 posts)

27. Not hard to figure out, just click on the Tweets they are real, as is the Sanders quote

Since both of them are real your attack on the messenger makes no sense.

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #27)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:29 PM

Arazi (5,643 posts)

32. Anyone can buy a certain amount of Twitter "followers"

Hint: the internet is not reliable

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Response to Arazi (Reply #32)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:30 PM

stevenleser (32,886 posts)

34. Also easy to figure out. These posters have a considerable history. Wrong again. nt

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Response to Arazi (Reply #32)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:40 PM

fun n serious (4,451 posts)

59. So you don't see a problem with how he spoke to Secretary Clinton? nt

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Response to fun n serious (Reply #59)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:14 AM

SheenaR (2,052 posts)

102. I'm a woman

No I don't. She's running for President. If she can't handle this then forget it. And she should stop interrupting people. Then it will never happen.

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Response to SheenaR (Reply #102)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:35 AM

JudyM (26,138 posts)

150. +1 from another woman. Lots of thin-skinned pretend-offense from the Clinton peeps.

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #27)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:29 PM

Vattel (9,289 posts)

33. By real, I mean spontaneous reactions from independent sources.

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Response to Vattel (Reply #33)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:35 AM

stevenleser (32,886 posts)

123. MSNBC talked about it, article on NY Times talked about it. Cartoonists immediately seized upon the

finger wagging in her face...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1429643

How many spontaneous independent reactions do you need?

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #123)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 07:16 AM

MaeScott (870 posts)

224. Which Hillary left a mark. Lol

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #123)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:01 PM

TM99 (8,352 posts)

261. Just because the media lept upon it

like fucking rabid dogs does not mean it was REAL.

It is just more of the Clinton playbook. She was a petulant child last night. She interrupted. When called on it, she bit back. When asked questions from an AA on the 1990's crime bill, she replied "Well Sanders did it too!"

And then her army of sycophants and rat-fuckers pepper the airways for the next 24 hour news cycle with how poor little Hillary was treated poorly by the big bad mean and angry Sanders.

It is a game. You apparently saw through the same playbook in 2008 with no problems. It is fascinating that now you are denying the reality of the same.

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:27 PM

Matariki (18,775 posts)

28. THIS woman thinks that's the appropriate thing to say to interrupters.

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Response to Matariki (Reply #28)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:36 PM

stopwastingmymoney (1,792 posts)

49. THIS woman agrees with you

To carry this argument to its absurd conclusion is to say that women can interrupt and men can't call them on it. Why? Because they're precious little flowers whose feelings need protecting?

That's not the sort of feminism I practice.

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Response to stopwastingmymoney (Reply #49)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:39 PM

Matariki (18,775 posts)

57. "That's not the sort of feminism I practice."

+1 sister

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Response to Matariki (Reply #57)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:03 AM

stopwastingmymoney (1,792 posts)

129. Thanks!

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Response to Matariki (Reply #28)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:40 PM

TDale313 (7,758 posts)

58. This woman, too. n/t

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Response to Matariki (Reply #28)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:05 AM

dragonlady (3,577 posts)

130. Add THIS woman also

She should have let him finish his statements.

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Response to Matariki (Reply #28)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:01 AM

Lizzie Poppet (10,164 posts)

164. raises hand

Add me to the list. She was being insufferable, and in Bernie's place I'd have likely caused a bit of a furor (or at least some bleeped-out audio, if they're on a delay). I hate being interrupted.

"What the fuck...were you raised by wolves, or something?"

Betcha my numbers would go up afterwards, too...

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Response to Lizzie Poppet (Reply #164)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:04 AM

Matariki (18,775 posts)

165. LOL

"Betcha my numbers would go up afterwards, too..."

If she makes it to the general election against Trump, oh boy...

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Response to Matariki (Reply #28)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:25 AM

dana_b (11,546 posts)

250. another woman who agrees with you! n/t

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:29 PM

AtomicKitten (46,585 posts)

31. Her incessant interrupting was rude and bullying.

She can't hide behind her gender for that behavior.

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:30 PM

Arazi (5,643 posts)

35. She was rude. Rudeness is genderless and being called on it isn't sexist

but do try to keep pushing the meme that Sanders is Sexist.

We get it

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:31 PM

sadoldgirl (3,431 posts)

37. Sorry, I am a woman and I reacted a different

way than you: Let him finish, and don't try
steadily to interrupt him, for crying out loud!

But then I cannot trust your judgement anymore
anyways after your " religious conversion" from
2008.

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Response to sadoldgirl (Reply #37)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:42 PM

nc4bo (17,651 posts)

64. Same here. Shut up and let him finish.

Complain to CNN for having the stupid podiums so close together.

Sanders is very animated, everyone knows that by now!

Sorta like a major News Network not allowing sufficient time for all the candidates to use the restroom during commercial breaks in the debate.

Real elementary school stuff that's easily fixed rather than whine and cry about.

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Response to nc4bo (Reply #64)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:11 AM

glinda (14,807 posts)

96. Its frustrating watching her interrupt him at every debate frequently and then wanting

more time than he is allowed/given to speak and then almost always wanting the last word.

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:32 PM

Lucinda (30,872 posts)

39. I saw a huge turn against Bernie on FB during that one bad finger wagging

debate with the women moderators. It will have an effect.

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Response to Lucinda (Reply #39)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:34 PM

stevenleser (32,886 posts)

46. Yep, it looks like that was Bernie's "you're like able enough" moment

I didn't catch either one in real time in terms of the effect they would have but lots of women were extremely angered in both cases.

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #46)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:42 PM

Lucinda (30,872 posts)

63. Prior to that debate, I saw little push back on Bernie's ads and posts, but after that

women really started speaking out. They nailed him on the finger wagging, and constantly pivoting back to the same economic talking points. They were especially vocal on the ads, which is really bad, because those ads were reaching people who many not be already be Bernie supporters.

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Response to Lucinda (Reply #39)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 09:25 AM

Fast Walker 52 (7,723 posts)

244. yeah, I think the constant finger wagging was far more obnoxious than the "excuse me" moment

and I'm a Bernie supporter.

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:33 PM

AzDar (14,023 posts)

42. This woman LOVED it. Also loved the fact that he's not a pathological LIAR.

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Response to AzDar (Reply #42)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:43 PM

fun n serious (4,451 posts)

66. I'm real. I'm not bought and I thought it was distasteful.

I am sure you would not want a man t o talk to you that way. Unless... Never mind I won't go there.

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Response to fun n serious (Reply #66)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:46 PM

AzDar (14,023 posts)

71. ...

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Response to fun n serious (Reply #66)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:54 AM

Lizzie Poppet (10,164 posts)

160. Why?

I'd have reacted to her graceless interruptions a hell of a lot more forcefully than that (one reason I'd make an entertaining but hugely unsuccessful political candidate...). I find nothing distasteful about not putting up with her shit.

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Response to Lizzie Poppet (Reply #160)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:25 AM

fun n serious (4,451 posts)

175. Bernie also likes to interrupt.

He also dances around, moves his head, wags his finger.. just doesn't stand still when others are talking! I's very distracting. They way he responds shows poor mannerisms, anger and disrespect. You should watch some videos on how he responds when a MAN interrupts him. VERY different. It's not the first time he appeared angry and sexist. He does in every debate. Google previous debates and you will see.

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Response to fun n serious (Reply #175)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:44 AM

Lizzie Poppet (10,164 posts)

177. And he should be called on it when he does.

Interrupting is boorish.

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:47 AM

fun n serious (4,451 posts)

179. It's classier to allow him to keep acting the way he does and let people see it. nt

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:55 AM

Lizzie Poppet (10,164 posts)

186. Probably the best tack to take with her, too.

With interrupters, I prefer to let the wind down, smile at them tolerantly*, then hit them with some variation of "okay...can I speak now?" They're kind of stuck with letting you talk then, or they come off as a compete ass to any audience you might have. Even works (usually) in one-on-one conversations...although it can be a bit awkward for both.

* thus reinforcing the impression that you're the adult, mildly indulging an unruly child; your opponent, however, is seething at the condescension and at being outmaneuvered. You've got them flustered!

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Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:33 PM

ThePhilosopher04 (1,732 posts)

43. Yeah right. Bernie kicked her ass.

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Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:36 PM

SidDithers (44,228 posts)

50. DU rec...

WaPo thought it was a very bad moment for Bernie too.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/03/06/winners-and-losers-from-the-7th-democratic-presidential-debate/?postshare=2701457320146330&tid=ss_tw

Losers

* Bernie Sanders: The Vermont Senator had effectively walked a fine line in the previous six debates when it came to attacking Clinton without coming across as either bullying or condescending. He tripped and fell while trying to execute that delicate dance on Sunday night. Sanders's "excuse me, I'm talking" rebuttal to Clinton hinted at the fact that he was losing his temper with her. His "can I finish please" retort ensured that his tone and his approach to someone trying to become the first female presidential nominee in either party would be THE story of the night.

Sid

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:14 AM

sheshe2 (78,141 posts)

103. +1000

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Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:36 PM

DesertRat (27,995 posts)

51. k&r

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Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:37 PM

Beacool (30,183 posts)

52. The Washington Post agrees.

Losers

* Bernie Sanders: The Vermont Senator had effectively walked a fine line in the previous six debates when it came to attacking Clinton without coming across as either bullying or condescending. He tripped and fell while trying to execute that delicate dance on Sunday night. Sanders's "excuse me, I'm talking" rebuttal to Clinton hinted at the fact that he was losing his temper with her. His "can I finish please" retort ensured that his tone and his approach to someone trying to become the first female presidential nominee in either party would be THE story of the night.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/03/06/winners-and-losers-from-the-7th-democratic-presidential-debate/?postshare=2701457320146330&tid=ss_tw

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Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:42 PM

stevenleser (32,886 posts)

65. MSNBC just talked about it too. nt

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Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:57 PM

Armstead (47,803 posts)

89. yes Hillary the fragile flower who can't be responded to in any but dulcet tones....NOT

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Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:56 PM

Armstead (47,803 posts)

88. Chris Cilizza -- Master of Trivia CW....Washington Post -- in the tank for Clinton

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:13 AM

Beacool (30,183 posts)

99. It seems that a lot of people commented on this issue.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/03/#

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/03/06/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-flint-debate/81419952/

http://time.com/4249193/democratic-debate-bernie-sanders-excuse-me-talking/

http://news.yahoo.com/video/excuse-im-talking-sanders-snaps-015324937.html

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:12 AM

stevenleser (32,886 posts)

136. See #132 below, looks like it is being talked about all over the place. nt

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:45 AM

Beacool (30,183 posts)

178. Apparently so.

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 03:31 AM

OwlinAZ (410 posts)

200. Not in my household.

Hillary's constant time overruns and endless name dropping got old fast.
My apolitical spouse innocently asked if she was not talking much more than Sanders.
Yes she was

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:38 PM

lunamagica (9,967 posts)

55. That waving his finger in her face...SO RUDE

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Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:58 PM

Armstead (47,803 posts)

91. That's a debate signal...They all do it to let moderator know they want to respond

He did that INSTEAD OF TALKING OVER CLINTON.

Clinton dispensed with etiquette and talked over him

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Response to Armstead (Reply #91)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:09 AM

lunamagica (9,967 posts)

94. They have set times to talk and respond, so, no, that is not it Besides, the finger waving would

start as soon as she started to speak.

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:11 AM

Armstead (47,803 posts)

97. They raise their fingers to signal they want a chance to respond after

Bernie COULD interrupt her, but he doesn't interrupt. He follows the rules and signals...She doesn't bother with that etiquette

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:14 AM

lunamagica (9,967 posts)

101. NO, they have a set time to talk and respond. And he'd start a soon as she started to talk.

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Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:41 PM

NurseJackie (42,862 posts)

60. Rude! Zero points.

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:24 AM

redstateblues (10,559 posts)

115. Reminiscent of Al Gore sighing which lost him the debate

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Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:41 PM

noretreatnosurrender (1,890 posts)

61. Oh My

It never ends, does it. This is stupid beyond belief. As a woman I'm insulted that so many Clinton supporters seem to think that she should get special treatment because she is some delicate flower. PLEASE. We've fought way too hard for women's rights to be going backward just to score political points.

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Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:45 PM

nc4bo (17,651 posts)

68. Must. Find. Some. Controversy. That way, we're not talking issues, we're talking

bullshit.

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Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:46 PM

Beowulf (761 posts)

70. Anything to avoid talking issues.

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Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:47 PM

virtualobserver (8,760 posts)

72. the brock gazette - journalism at its finest

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Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:53 PM

fun n serious (4,451 posts)

84. Did you not see the debate?

CNN, MSNBC, everyone is saying it was awful

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Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:47 PM

TDale313 (7,758 posts)

74. As a woman, I find this type of attack on Bernie really insulting.

Figures Brock would be running with this crap.

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Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:51 PM

fun n serious (4,451 posts)

80. No one forced Bernie to respond rude and angry. nt

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:02 AM

TM99 (8,352 posts)

92. No one forced Hillary to be bullying and

to talk over her debate opponent.

He responded perfectly to her pattern of interruptions.

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:49 AM

fun n serious (4,451 posts)

181. She barely tried to talk when he screamed at her. nt

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 03:03 AM

TM99 (8,352 posts)

188. Bullshit.

She was cutting him off and attempting to talk over him.

She has done it in each and every debate.

Stop defending the indefensible.

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 03:44 AM

840high (17,196 posts)

208. BS - poor Hillary.

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Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:49 PM

Aha (53 posts)

76. Brock's crappy website.

Rejected for propaganda.

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Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:52 PM

dchill (34,918 posts)

81. Really? The sexist card? She's running for President, for chrissake...

She's tough, she can take it. Also, she was rudely interrupting.

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:51 AM

fun n serious (4,451 posts)

183. Do you not see him dance, jump, make faces and wag his finger when it is NOT his turn to talk? nt

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 03:05 AM

dchill (34,918 posts)

189. Does that not strike you as exaggeration?

Really?

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 03:08 AM

fun n serious (4,451 posts)

194. No. nt

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 03:10 AM

dchill (34,918 posts)

196. Well, then, you stand corrected.

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Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:52 PM

Uncle Joe (55,195 posts)

82. Bernie was right it was his allotted time to speak and Hillary kept interrupting.

What else is he going to say?

Bernie never cut in on Hillary when it was her time to speak.

Thanks for the thread, stevenleser.

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Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:55 PM

Chasstev365 (5,191 posts)

85. There is NOTHING wrong with what he said!

She kept interrupting, talking when it wasn't her turn, and kept going was her time was up.

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Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:56 PM

noamnety (20,234 posts)

87. Aren't you a journalist or something?

This is what you got from the debate???

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:37 AM

Gwhittey (1,377 posts)

151. Are you serious?

All news sites are talking about it and people think that it matters because all M$M are posting it. journalist pah if want a journalist go to another country, there are no journalist in US for sale. Because they have all been bought and paid for already/

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Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:57 PM

UtahLib (3,175 posts)

90. K&R

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:07 AM

yourpaljoey (2,166 posts)

93. Pffft

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:10 AM

Luminous Animal (27,310 posts)

95. Apparently, women are too weak to take it.

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 03:01 AM

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:13 AM

Blue_In_AK (46,436 posts)

100. I have exactly one female FB friend who was disturbed by that.

But she doesn't like the way Bernie talks with his hands, either. In fact, judging by most of her posts, there's not much she likes about Bernie, which is fine and her right. But as for me, I don't think in terms of "Hillary's a woman, Bernie's a man." If Hillary was talking over him, she needs to be called on it. And vice versa.

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:15 AM

sheshe2 (78,141 posts)

105. K&R!

That was a bad moment.

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:15 AM

bunnies (15,859 posts)

107. If she had said it - she'd have been anointed a feminist god by now.

Its pathetic that common courtesy has been made into an issue by those waiting for an excuse to scream "Sexism". Her supporters dont give her very much credit and that says a lot.

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:20 AM

Jarqui (9,133 posts)

110. Why are we wasting time talking about BS propaganda

spun up by a chronic, self confessed liar employed by Hillary Clinton?

Quite frankly, Hillary has never needed David Brock to lie for her over the previous 25 years - because she lied just fine all by herself during those years.

If you doubt that, go to google and enter "poll Hillary untrustworthy" .. about 60% of America thinks she's dishonest or untrustworthy.

She's not a great liar because she gets caught a lot but I don't think she needs David Brock's help in that area.

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:22 AM

imagine2015 (2,054 posts)

111. So she rudely interrupted Sander's and that's OK because she's Hillary?

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:23 AM

TheFarseer (9,247 posts)

112. unbelievable

this kind of thing is said in most debates. I suppose she just gets to talk whenever, no matter whose turn it is because she's a woman. This is just people seeing what they want to see and being offended because they wanted to be offended. You act like he said, "A man's talking. go bake some cookies."

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:23 AM

brewens (12,111 posts)

113. Better than "STFU while I'm talking!" In a situation like that I'll usually say, "excuse me, was I

interrupting you?" I doubt she can hear well with her mouth moving. That might be part of her problem.

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:31 AM

stevenleser (32,886 posts)

119. Nope. Unless you are saying Sanders didnt say it, you have no point.

That means YOU should STFU, not me.

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:34 AM

John Poet (2,510 posts)

122. Pretending that BlueNationReview is anything but

a slimy propaganda organ shows your regard for the truth (or rather lack thereof), in this campaign.

You should go back and read some of your 2008 posts about Hillary. Good stuff!
They are still true.

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:36 AM

stevenleser (32,886 posts)

124. That is only an argument if you are saying Sanders didn't say it. He did say it. nt

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:15 AM

John Poet (2,510 posts)

138. I'm only talking about your link to a Brock propoganda organ.

I did not click-thru and read it, anymore than I would click-thru and read an article on RedState or Breitbart. 'BlueNationReview' is now in the same class, they're just bought and paid for by a neocon Democrat instead of right-wing Republican. Propaganda organs ALL.

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:30 AM

stevenleser (32,886 posts)

143. Then you have lost the argument. See my #132, its all over all different kinds of media.

Game, set, match.

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:33 AM

John Poet (2,510 posts)

146. I don't really give a shit about that,

care to justify using a David Brock propaganda link? I see you don't,
because you can't, obviously.

You declaring the argument "over" reminds me of your type declaring the primaries "over".
It just makes you look like an idiot.

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:33 AM

stevenleser (32,886 posts)

147. Then you have no point at all. nt

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #119)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:49 AM

Logical (22,457 posts)

128. Lol, temper temper Steve! Fox News hates bad language. Nt

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:30 AM

slipslidingaway (21,210 posts)

118. What??? I was not offended by him saying 'I am talking' when she interrupted him ...

and I do not care if he was speaking to a flea.

Stop dividing our country by gender, race, religion, race or any other class that you might think of.

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:31 AM

silenttigersong (957 posts)

120. No Hillary was rude by interupting n/t

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:31 AM

madfloridian (88,117 posts)

121. BNR was recently bought by David Brock. He and Peter Daou et al use it as an attack hammer

toward Bernie.

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:37 AM

Logical (22,457 posts)

125. Lol, nice try Stevie!

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:38 AM

Waiting For Everyman (9,385 posts)

126. But yet she's so tough she can take on Trump, eh?

What a crock that is! #WhichHillary

I'm a (boomer) woman and I'm glad Sanders is starting to shut down her hogging the time and running over his answers. Enough is enough!

Sanders was fantastic tonight. He stated facts and she was all spin.

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:06 AM

Fearless (18,421 posts)

131. The poutrage is strong in this one.

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:08 AM

stevenleser (32,886 posts)

132. Courtesy of MADEM in another thread this is popping up in media all over the place

Those of you doing so can keep attacking me as the messenger but it won't help.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1430963

Sanders to Clinton: 'Excuse me, I'm talking'
http://www.wmur.com/politics/sanders-to-clinton-excuse-me-im-talking/38375366

Sanders Tells Clinton: ‘Excuse Me, I’m Talking’ in Arguably Sexist Debate Exchange
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/03/sanders-to-clinton-excuse-me-im-talking.html

Sanders to Clinton: 'Excuse me, I'm talking'
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/03/06/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-flint-debate/81419952/

Sanders Snaps At Clinton “Excuse Me, I’m Talking”
http://www.buzzfeed.com/evanmcsan/sanders-snaps-at-clinton-excuse-me-im-talking?utm_term=4ldqpia

Bernie Sanders’ feisty debate: ‘Excuse me, I’m talking!’
https://www.yahoo.com/politics/bernie-sanders-feisty-debate-excuse-me-im-023738092.html

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #132)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:12 AM

grossproffit (5,591 posts)

134. Yep, it's all over the place. It's a conspiracy!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Response to grossproffit (Reply #134)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:28 AM

stevenleser (32,886 posts)

176. And it's all my fault according to many posters here.

I control the media!!!!!!11!!11!!111111!!!elevens... evil laugh...

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #176)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 08:58 AM

noamnety (20,234 posts)

234. No, but you've become part of the problem with media in this country.

It might be time to do some soul searching. I can do dumb crap on the internet because it's entirely unrelated to my job. I'm just someone sitting in my living room typing.

You, on the other hand, claim to be a journalist - and already have damaged your reputation in the contortions it took to transition from exposing Hillary as the compulsive liar she is - and then doing the weathervane thing to endorse her.

Then a lot of people questioned you when you went on Fox News, and I think the explanation was something about getting the message out to all people. (?)

But once you start actually becoming Fox News and internalizing their "journalism" methods - latch onto a talking point from the echo chamber that's entirely unrelated to policy or substance and start working to catapult the talking point, people notice what you've become.

Soul searching, dude. Think about what made you want to be a journalist to begin with. Do you have any reporters from days gone past that you look up to?

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #132)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 03:39 AM

dchill (34,918 posts)

206. Notice how all those thread titles start with, "Excuse me?"

Where I come from, that's called polite.

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 03:40 AM

stevenleser (32,886 posts)

207. You're going with the old oblivious to tone and context play? Good luck. nt

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #132)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 05:49 AM

riversedge (65,375 posts)

221. Thanks. much appreciated

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:10 AM

Cheese Sandwich (9,086 posts)

133. She was cheating by talking through his turn.

She was stealing his time.

This has been the story of this whole campaign is false charges of sexism and fake outrage, anything to distract from the issues and the record.

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:12 AM

Cheese Sandwich (9,086 posts)

135. I would have just told her to shut the fuck up and quit stealing my time to talk

She used up her time and was stealing Bernie's time.

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Reply #135)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 09:23 AM

polly7 (20,582 posts)

243. +1 !!! nt.

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:15 AM

jalan48 (13,692 posts)

139. Wow-Hillary really is royalty.

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:31 AM

WIProgressive88 (314 posts)

144. Oh Jesus goddamn fucking Christ.

Hillary rudely interrupts Bernie. Bernie responds. And somehow Bernie's the bad guy in this exchange?

I've never been a Hillary fan, and the more this primary goes on, the more I honestly can't stand her, and this sort of thing is exactly why. The sense of entitlement expressed by many of her supporters is simply nauseating.

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:35 AM

jfern (5,204 posts)

149. David Brock was so polite to Anita Hill

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:44 AM

Gwhittey (1,377 posts)

153. What is sad

Is that news has been so fucked up this primary that that TYT talked about this issue and how Sanders was going to be called a sexist my the media because the media sucks ass. It is really a bad sign when the 4th estate is so blatly bias you can call headlines before they post them.

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Response to Gwhittey (Reply #153)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:48 AM

stevenleser (32,886 posts)

155. That wasn't a difficult prediction. Sanders had already been close to the line in previous debates.

He has been cutting her off and wagging his finger in her face pretty much every debate so far.

He just went much farther with it this time.

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:50 AM

Kalidurga (14,177 posts)

156. Your concern about women having to follow the rules is duly noted.

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Response to Kalidurga (Reply #156)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:50 AM

stevenleser (32,886 posts)

158. See my #132 below, you can try to talk this away but it won't work.

Making it personal against me won't work either.

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #158)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:05 AM

Kalidurga (14,177 posts)

166. I don't care if it goes away or not.

In fact this bump will just let more people know you don't care that this is an admission Hillary was interrupting.

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Response to Kalidurga (Reply #166)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:07 AM

stevenleser (32,886 posts)

167. Nope, she wasn't interrupting nor was that the discussion, you made that up out of thin air.

Thanks for the bump on my OP though and nice try trying to suggest something of yours was being bumped.

P.s., see my #132.

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #167)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:10 AM

Kalidurga (14,177 posts)

171. So Bernie says Excuse me I was talking

and it wasn't a response to an interruption? That's pretty strange.

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Response to Kalidurga (Reply #171)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 03:37 AM

OwlinAZ (410 posts)

204. It was in response so numerous interruptions by Hillary.

and constant attempts by her to monopolize the comments

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Response to OwlinAZ (Reply #204)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 03:50 AM

Kalidurga (14,177 posts)

213. I have seen them debate more than a couple times

It is something she does a whole lot. So does Bernie. So does everyone that debates. It's kind of a thing. And no I don't blame Bernie for that or even Hillary too much unless someone wants to make this an issue. Then it's on.

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:50 AM

Major Hogwash (17,656 posts)

157. Somebody should've interrupted Hillary when she was speaking on the Senate floor for 20 minutes . .

. . . in 2002 justifying her vote for the Iraq War.

They should have said something like "Excuse me, there are no WMD's in Iraq, Senator Clinton."

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:51 AM

Lizzie Poppet (10,164 posts)

159. I'm a woman, last I looked, and I was fine with that.

Hillary kept interrupting. I'd have been tempted to tell her to shut the fuck up (obviously, my future has never been with the Diplomatic Corps).

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:55 AM

DebDoo (319 posts)

161. He treated her like an equal

And women are mad about that? Seriously, she interrupted him and he reacted like he would to anyone who interrupted him. Are these women upset that he didn't give the floor to her because she's a woman? You can't have it both ways.

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:00 AM

silvershadow (10,336 posts)

162. I hope they reacted to Hillary's rude interruption just 1 1/2 seconds into Bernie's turn, and every

few seconds thereafter.

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:01 AM

Jake2413 (226 posts)

163. I do remember

Bernie talking and Hillary interrupting.

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:07 AM

The Midway Rebel (2,191 posts)

168. Dang.

I can smell the Bern of desperation in this post.

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Response to The Midway Rebel (Reply #168)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:07 AM

stevenleser (32,886 posts)

169. See my #132. You can attack me all you want, it won't help.

p.s., thanks for kicking my OP and helping raise awareness of this issue.

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #169)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:09 AM

The Midway Rebel (2,191 posts)

170. Yeah, I know.

Impervious and all that.

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Response to The Midway Rebel (Reply #170)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:10 AM

stevenleser (32,886 posts)

172. Nope. Nothing you can say to me will stop the articles all over the media. nt

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #172)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:13 AM

The Midway Rebel (2,191 posts)

173. Does your desperation to keep this thread kicked count as part of the media blitz?

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Response to The Midway Rebel (Reply #173)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:14 AM

stevenleser (32,886 posts)

174. Well, ask yourself. You are kicking it as much as I am. nt

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #174)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:49 AM

Matariki (18,775 posts)

182. Kicking it? How about shredding it.

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Response to Matariki (Reply #182)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:51 AM

stevenleser (32,886 posts)

184. You can't shred it. Its not a DU meme. Its all over the media. nt

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #169)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:49 AM

Matariki (18,775 posts)

180. "awareness of this issue" ROFLMAO!

Where Steve Leser, a man, schools women on how we feel about Sanders asking to not be interrupted.

Please, do go on.

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Response to Matariki (Reply #180)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:51 AM

stevenleser (32,886 posts)

185. See my #184 and my #132. nt

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #185)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:40 PM

polly7 (20,582 posts)

265. Wtf do you keep ordering people to look up your posts?

Do you really think they're that important? You're spreading a lie and despite many women here telling you it is a LIE and that you DO NOT speak for women - you just keep referencing earlier posts no-one has probably even read and tell them to 'go look it up' whenever these women respond. NOW who's being dismissive and rude??

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 03:05 AM

riversedge (65,375 posts)

190. Would it be ok for @HillaryClinton to make faces, smirk at Sen Sanders comments & shake her finger a

Hillary4TampaBay
‏@Hillary4Tampa

Would it be ok for @HillaryClinton to make faces, smirk at Sen Sanders comments & shake her finger at him & the yelling! Ugh. #ImWithHer

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Response to riversedge (Reply #190)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 03:07 AM

stevenleser (32,886 posts)

191. I almost forgot about the stupid smirking. He always does that when he is caught too.

Like when she called him out for trying to primary Obama.

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 03:07 AM

Quixote1818 (27,651 posts)

192. Other women seem to think posts like this are sexist

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1431812

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Response to Quixote1818 (Reply #192)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 08:07 AM

Cobalt Violet (9,855 posts)

230. But we're expected to be Hillary's sheep if we are female.

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 03:07 AM

Aerows (39,961 posts)

193. Yes, yikes

The day I need you to speak for me is the day swine with wings are flying around all over the place.

Damn, Steven, this is over the top even for you.

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Response to Aerows (Reply #193)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 03:11 AM

stevenleser (32,886 posts)

198. See my #132 above. Attacking me won't help. But your pointless ad-hominem is noted. nt

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #198)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 03:46 AM

Quixote1818 (27,651 posts)

209. What do you say to the women who say your pedeling this kind of ilk is what actually is sexist?

You can point to all kinds of articles but many women on DU have pointed out why they don't believe he was being sexist and such attacks actually are. I don't believe you think he was being sexist either which makes your OP really quite disgusting. What do you say to those women who are offended by this type of disingenuous smear campaign? And if you want to hide behind saying "I am only the messenger" it won't work. By posting this ilk you are flat out suggesting Bernie is sexist as directly as anyone who actually said it. Do you really believe Sanders is sexist Steve? Come on, your better than this, you know Bernie isn't sexist so don't try to smear him by spreading this kind of dirt around and hide behind suggesting you are only a messenger.

If you admit you truly think Bernie is sexist I will let you slide but if you don't believe it then posting this was in really poor taste.

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Response to Quixote1818 (Reply #209)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 03:48 AM

stevenleser (32,886 posts)

211. I say exactly what I said to the other poster. Addressing your comments to me is pointless.

Unless for some reason you think I can cause all the articles on this to vanish from existence.

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #211)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 03:54 AM

Quixote1818 (27,651 posts)

214. I will ask it again. Do you think Bernie is sexist?

After every debate there are always dozens of articles that suggest all kinds of things about what the author thinks the candidates are up to but people post on DU what they want people to hear. Again, if you think Bernie is sexist, more power to you but if not then you might want to ask yourself what was in your heart that made you feel it was so necessary to spread these kind of McCarthy tactics.

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Response to Quixote1818 (Reply #214)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 03:56 AM

stevenleser (32,886 posts)

215. Since I started this OP, my question first. Do you discount the women who find it sexist?

Are their opinions to be dismissed?

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #215)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 03:57 AM

Quixote1818 (27,651 posts)

216. To be quite frank, yes because the other women's arguments are 1000 times more compelling.

But I am still waiting to hear if you actually think Bernie is sexist?

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Response to Quixote1818 (Reply #216)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 03:58 AM

stevenleser (32,886 posts)

217. Take it up with those women. They are on Twitter. nt

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #217)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 04:00 AM

Quixote1818 (27,651 posts)

218. So you refuse to answer my question then?

Do you personally think Bernie is sexist after he has spent his entire fucking life working his ass off for women's rights?

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #215)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 09:25 AM

polly7 (20,582 posts)

245. Yeah, they're playing victim for something that didn't exist.

Saying 'excuse me' when being continually interrupted is just being polite towards anyone (man or woman).

It's bullshit.

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 03:10 AM

ucrdem (15,502 posts)

197. What a surprise eh.

And people keep saying how disappointed he'd be in his ruder supporters. Not hardly.

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 03:11 AM

amborin (16,631 posts)

199. If some women didn't like "excuse me, I'm talking," then they are being sexist.

If Person A interrupts when Person B is speaking, then Person B has every right to say, "excuse me, I'm talking."

If person A supporters don't like that reply, they are implying that Hillary should have received some special, preferential treatment, based on sex categorization.

But that is totally sexist. Get it? Asking for something different or special, based on one's sex, is sexist. Just like voting for someone based on their sex categorization is also sexist.

That's how these ascribed characteristics work. Being either for or against someone, purely on the basis of an ascribed characteristic, is bad. Sex, race, ethnicity are ascribed characteristics.

And, if Hillary does need some kind of delicate, kid glove deference, then it's just reason #2459 why she is a poor candidate for the nomination.

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Response to amborin (Reply #199)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 03:48 AM

840high (17,196 posts)

212. .+10

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 04:08 AM

Matariki (18,775 posts)

219. Instructional

I guess President Obama is 'sexist' too - from 3:45 - 4:40

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Response to Matariki (Reply #219)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:06 PM

TM99 (8,352 posts)

262. Yes, and the Steven Lesser of 2008

rightly criticized Clinton and did not call Obama sexist.

The Steven Lesser of 2016 is doing the opposite.

I wonder why that is?!

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 06:49 AM

DrDan (20,411 posts)

222. no doubt - it was rude . . . I was surprised to hear that . . .

but considering how intense things are getting as we begin to close out this primary season, I can understand it.

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 07:35 AM

pdsimdars (6,007 posts)

225. Bunch of nonsense

Look at any debate and when some person tries to talk over another person, often they tell them to "Excuse me, I'm talking."
It was rude of her to constantly interrupt when he was trying to talk.
If you want to be treated as equal then you can't react when you are treated just like anyone else. When you are rude, someone may point that out to you, just like the men always do when they are interrupted.

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 08:00 AM

morningfog (18,115 posts)

228. Brock's rat fuck rag.

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 08:05 AM

Cobalt Violet (9,855 posts)

229. Well this woman say "Good for him, Go Bernie, Go"

I don't take my cues from other women. Nice try though.

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 08:10 AM

agracie (950 posts)

231. She interrupted HIM. She interrupted/ignored Anderson. She talked and talked even ...

when her time was up. She was rude and obnoxious. That smirk of hers p*sses me off to no end.

Anderson did a poor job of controlling her nonsense.

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 08:21 AM

noiretextatique (27,274 posts)

232. WEAK...how about the Queen dismissing 2 black women?

Her priviledged attitude sucks. So does her and her supporters constantly playing the victim.

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Response to noiretextatique (Reply #232)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 09:22 AM

polly7 (20,582 posts)

242. If they couldn't play victim or make her one they'd have nothing to run on. nt.

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 08:35 AM

beedle (1,235 posts)

233. What is the proper response ...

... When a strong feminist rudly interupts you in the middle of answering a question?

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 09:02 AM

Vinca (49,166 posts)

235. As a woman, considering how rude Hillary was being, I'd have said "STFU already."

Do not play the gender card . . . please. Rude is rude.

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 09:05 AM

Sancho (8,855 posts)

236. Not the first time that Bernie was rude and sexist...

sooner or later it will cost him a lot of votes.

Put that together with all those "poor black people" and "mentally ill republicans" I suspect Bernie is narrowing his voter base every time he speaks.

He really needs to have fewer debates at this point.

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Response to Sancho (Reply #236)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 09:26 AM

NurseJackie (42,862 posts)

246. "He really needs to have fewer debates at this point."

He really needs to have fewer debates at this point.

I'd commented several times in the past that Bernie and his supporters should be THANKING Debbie for the light debate schedule. But, as the old saying goes: "be careful what you wish for".

After seeing his initial performances during the first debates, I was ALSO hoping for additional debates... but for reasons that were ENTIRELY OPPOSITE from those of Bernie's campaign and supporters.

Go, Hillary! We love you!

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 09:06 AM

Skwmom (12,685 posts)

237. Some people will do anything for a buck. n/t

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 09:08 AM

pdsimdars (6,007 posts)

238. Title is wrong, it should be SOME women react

Reasonable women didn't. They realize when someone is being rude, man or woman, as Hillary was by constantly interrupting Bernie and talking over him during his time, that that person, man or woman, should be called out on it at some point.
Reasonable people understand this common sense idea.

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 09:11 AM

vintx (1,748 posts)

239. Did you bother looking at any tweets yourself?

There are plenty of women pushing back against this biased bullshit on twitter.

People need to stop claiming to speak for women. We can speak for ourselves just fine.

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:22 AM

bklyncowgirl (7,960 posts)

248. So the woman who stood up to a 12 hour grilling from a Senate Committee out to hang her is a wuss?

Sorry, I don't think so.

Hillary Clinton is smart as a whip and hard as nails. That's what I like about her. She tried to cut Sanders off and he shut her down. It was fair game and as a woman I would want nothing less.

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:24 AM

dana_b (11,546 posts)

249. I'm a woman

and I thought that she was rude. She kept talking over him so what was he supposed to do?

Bunch of b.s.

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:28 AM

hobbit709 (41,694 posts)

251. From Hillary basher in '08 to enthusiastic supporter today.

You and a host of others here. Makes you wonder what the deal was.

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Response to hobbit709 (Reply #251)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:51 PM

Go Vols (5,902 posts)

266. yes it does

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:28 AM

aintitfunny (1,421 posts)

252. I am a woman and my reaction is he was correct

He had an absolute, undeniable right to expect her to stop interrupting him and trying to take away his opportunity for rebuttal.

It isn't complicated and BlueNationReview should be shunned by anyone who seeks fair reporting.

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:31 AM

tazkcmo (7,096 posts)

253. Poor Hillary.

That battle tested, fighting, liberated, principled warrior sure is tougher than her supporters that don't see their own rudeness when interrupting another person that's speaking and get butt hurt over "excuse me". Delicate flowers.

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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 11:03 AM

UglyGreed (7,661 posts)