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pinebox

(5,761 posts)
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:26 AM Mar 2016

Sorry Hillary, Bernie supported the auto bailout

Whoops!

Leahy, Sanders reluctantly support auto industry rescue
12/11/08 5:50PM By Bob Kinzel

http://www.vpr.net/news_detail/83206/leahy-sanders-reluctantly-support-auto-industry-re/

Senator Bernie Sanders voted against the $700 billion bail out of the financial services industry but he says this package is different:
(Sanders) "The problem is if you don't act in the midst of a growing recession what does it mean to create a situation where millions of more people become unemployed and that could spread and I have serious concerns about that I think it would be a terrible idea to add millions more to the unemployment rolls."
A large number of Republican senators are threatening to block consideration of this bill.
Senator Leahy is angry about this possibility:
(Leahy) "These are the same people who voted billions of dollars with the idea that it's supposed to create jobs in Iraq well what I'm saying we're in a crisis in America we should be concentrating on what kinds of jobs we create in America."
Leahy says it's too soon to tell if a compromise bill can be drafted in time for a Senate vote before the weekend.
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Sorry Hillary, Bernie supported the auto bailout (Original Post) pinebox Mar 2016 OP
Hillary's willingness to attack Bernie with lies is so unPresidential virtualobserver Mar 2016 #1
She is a serial liar, she can't stop. She is never straight forward. pdsimdars Mar 2016 #16
Why didn't he blast her with this? aspirant Mar 2016 #2
TARP was the bill metroins Mar 2016 #3
Do another 30 seconds more research and you find out that is not true. nt CdnExtraNational Mar 2016 #5
Actually, TARP funded the Detroit bailout metroins Mar 2016 #10
Twisted logic. CdnExtraNational Mar 2016 #19
The October 2008 TARP vote was for a bill just about the financial industry jfern Mar 2016 #7
Yes. metroins Mar 2016 #11
You are just as dishonest as she was... CdnExtraNational Mar 2016 #20
When you do just an ounce of research you find out it is deception. CdnExtraNational Mar 2016 #4
Yes, she avoided it being a total pants on fire lie, but certainly proved jfern Mar 2016 #8
The fact that she lied about Bernie's voting record will come back to haunt her. Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #6
I hope you're right, but I'm afraid you're wrong. John Poet Mar 2016 #9
Well then, why doesn't Bernie just cut her off at the "pass"? Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #12
Seems to SOP for HRC when she is losing in the primaries GreatGazoo Mar 2016 #14
yes he did nt silvershadow Mar 2016 #13
supported it - just did not want to pay for it . . . I am quite sure the people of Flint will accept DrDan Mar 2016 #15
I think this guy knows a thing or 2 about Flint pinebox Mar 2016 #17
so that money was wasted . . . got it DrDan Mar 2016 #18
 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
1. Hillary's willingness to attack Bernie with lies is so unPresidential
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:34 AM
Mar 2016

Trustworthiness just isn't her thing

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
16. She is a serial liar, she can't stop. She is never straight forward.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 08:59 AM
Mar 2016

And this is who the Hillarians support? A serial liar. WOW!

metroins

(2,550 posts)
3. TARP was the bill
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:38 AM
Mar 2016

That provided funds for the auto bailout.

Sanders voted Nay.

You can argue why he did, but the bill that actually provided the funds, in real life, he voted Nay on.

http://www.politico.com/story/2008/10/the-senate-bailout-vote-014196

metroins

(2,550 posts)
10. Actually, TARP funded the Detroit bailout
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:49 AM
Mar 2016
https://www.treasury.gov/press-center/press-releases/Pages/tg139.aspx

You shouldn't be arguing whether Bernie voted yay or nay on the Detroit bailout. Because he voted Nay on TARP, which is where the funds came from in REALITY.

Factually, if the funds came from TARP, and Sanders voted against TARP. Then Sanders voted against the bailout.

Your argument should be on whether TARP was a good thing or a bad thing.

EESA and TARP Sanders voted against.

http://maplight.org/us-congress/bill/110-hr-1424/352600/contributions-by-vote
 

CdnExtraNational

(105 posts)
19. Twisted logic.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 08:58 AM
Mar 2016

Bernie voted for the auto bailout.

Bernie voted against the bank bailout (TARP).

Thanks to President Obama for taking some of the money out of the bank bailout to help the auto industry.

I guess you weren't paying attention back then.

jfern

(5,204 posts)
7. The October 2008 TARP vote was for a bill just about the financial industry
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:46 AM
Mar 2016

Even a Democratic Senator from Michigan, Stabenow voted no. Are you going to claim a Democratic Senator from Michigan voted against the auto bailout. Lets keep this beliveable.

 

CdnExtraNational

(105 posts)
20. You are just as dishonest as she was...
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 09:02 AM
Mar 2016

The Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) is a program of the United States government to purchase assets and equity from financial institutions to strengthen its financial sector that was signed into law by U.S. President George W. Bush on October 3, 2008.

What part of that says auto bailout?
Republicans didn't even support the auto bailout.
Thanks to President Obama for taking some of the second tranche of the TARP and giving it to the auto industry.

 

CdnExtraNational

(105 posts)
4. When you do just an ounce of research you find out it is deception.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:41 AM
Mar 2016

... and she chose her words so carefully to avoid a total lie.

"He voted against the money that ENDED UP bailing out the auto industry."

Even though the bill had nothing in it about the auto industry.

It was only by President Obama's administrative authority that some of the money was used to bailout the auto industry.

jfern

(5,204 posts)
8. Yes, she avoided it being a total pants on fire lie, but certainly proved
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:47 AM
Mar 2016

that she deserves her 67% not honest and trustworthy rating.

 

John Poet

(2,510 posts)
9. I hope you're right, but I'm afraid you're wrong.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:48 AM
Mar 2016

Hillary seems to get a "pass" for every lie she can come up with...

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
12. Well then, why doesn't Bernie just cut her off at the "pass"?
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 03:04 AM
Mar 2016

That's the way Randolph Scott would've done it.

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
15. supported it - just did not want to pay for it . . . I am quite sure the people of Flint will accept
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 08:30 AM
Mar 2016

this considering their problems today

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
18. so that money was wasted . . . got it
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 11:35 AM
Mar 2016

btw - where would GM and Chrysler be today without the money?

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