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oberliner

(58,724 posts)
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:11 AM Mar 2016

Where is Bernie's next win?

Here are the upcoming states:

1. Michigan
2. Mississippi
3. Florida
4. Illinois
5. Missouri
6. North Carolina
7. Ohio

Those are the states between now and March 15th (inclusive). About 1,000 delegates total.

Do folks think Bernie will win any of those states outright?

If so, which one(s)?

Edit to Add: There is also the Northern Marianas caucus on March 15.

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Where is Bernie's next win? (Original Post) oberliner Mar 2016 OP
Why do you want to disenfranchise firebrand80 Mar 2016 #1
Thanks oberliner Mar 2016 #3
Polls: Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #2
Ohio maybe? oberliner Mar 2016 #4
Ohio should be his wheelhouse. Not quite like New England, but his message should resonate. Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #5
A lot of people don't know who he is Rebkeh Mar 2016 #10
People know who he is oberliner Mar 2016 #11
Most people don't pay attention to politics Rebkeh Mar 2016 #13
Add the media blackout to that.... Svafa Mar 2016 #22
Are you still claiming to be undecided? merrily Mar 2016 #33
If Clinton wins big in Michigan,Sanders numbers in Ohio sufrommich Mar 2016 #6
Its fun to read this Fairgo Mar 2016 #26
It is. Chan790 Mar 2016 #35
The entire month of March looks bleak for Sanders CajunBlazer Mar 2016 #7
He needs to pick up whatever he can in March marions ghost Mar 2016 #8
Washington votes in March. seattleite Mar 2016 #58
This message was self-deleted by its author Rebkeh Mar 2016 #9
They seem excited about a 2 point poll lead in the Utah caucuses BainsBane Mar 2016 #12
Not really, .... CajunBlazer Mar 2016 #16
Don't look behind you... kenfrequed Mar 2016 #44
Don't look forward or behind you CajunBlazer Mar 2016 #49
Uhm kenfrequed Mar 2016 #50
How is Sanders going to catch up... CajunBlazer Mar 2016 #54
Wait and see... primary season isn't over. kenfrequed Mar 2016 #57
This is why a lot of people have predicted Bernie doesn't start closing the gap unti after the 15th. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #14
Idaho.. probably. DCBob Mar 2016 #15
I think he wins Idaho and the 4 caucuses that follow oberliner Mar 2016 #18
Reelection for Senate in the Great State of Vermont. NCTraveler Mar 2016 #17
Bernie's previous wins v. his next wins... Analytics_American Mar 2016 #19
welcome to DU - friendly advice/reminder Kali Mar 2016 #20
When is the next F.B.I. leak about Hillary going to come? John Poet Mar 2016 #21
Haven't they released all the emails? oberliner Mar 2016 #24
Idaho, possibly Utah, with MO an outside chance. Clinton gets the rest. K & R nt Persondem Mar 2016 #23
Very impressed that he won Michigan oberliner Mar 2016 #25
Put me on the record: Bernie is going to win Ohio. Joe the Revelator Mar 2016 #27
I think he could pull out Ohio since his trade policy message is getting through. Vinca Mar 2016 #28
I'd say MO and OH are in play. (nt) Recursion Mar 2016 #29
Even with mouthy McCaskill? merrily Mar 2016 #32
Ohio by 2, Missouri by 12, and a delegate tie in North Carolina Armymedic88 Mar 2016 #30
What do you think it will look like in Florida and Illinois? oberliner Mar 2016 #42
I think in Illinois Bernie can get within 10 points and in Florida I see 12-15 point win for Clinton Armymedic88 Mar 2016 #43
Depends kenfrequed Mar 2016 #45
If Bernies close in Illinois it's over for Clinton I believe Armymedic88 Mar 2016 #47
Rahm is a non-factor. Democratic Committeemen run Chicago. ieoeja Mar 2016 #59
Turnout is a factor kenfrequed Mar 2016 #60
Why are you stopping at March 15? Primaries and Bernie will go until June. merrily Mar 2016 #31
I didn't think he would win any states between the day I posted and 3/15 oberliner Mar 2016 #34
That's exactly why I thought you made 3/15 the cutoff--because you didn't think he could win any. merrily Mar 2016 #36
Yes, that was the point of the question oberliner Mar 2016 #37
Bwahahahaha !!!!! n/t Motown_Johnny Mar 2016 #38
Bernie really has something special going on oberliner Mar 2016 #40
I keep hearing Hillary will win here in NC, but I haven't seen any support for her here. n/t PonyUp Mar 2016 #39
Good point oberliner Mar 2016 #41
The Hill will probably take North Carolina kenfrequed Mar 2016 #46
No she won't oberliner Mar 2016 #48
WOrking hard to make it Illinios Ferd Berfel Mar 2016 #51
I'm still waiting on the media to report... scscholar Mar 2016 #52
It's been reported on extensively oberliner Mar 2016 #55
The only thing I've seen the past 12 hours about it... scscholar Mar 2016 #56
In the bag? cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #53
I don't know. We'll find out. MineralMan Mar 2016 #61
 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
2. Polls:
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:27 AM
Mar 2016
  • Michigan: Sanders down 20
  • Mississippi: Sanders down 30+
  • Florida: Sanders down 27
  • Illinois: Sanders down 19 (3 weeks old)
  • Missouri: (no data)
  • North Carolina: Sanders down 20
  • Ohio: Sanders down 8

    http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster#2016-primaries

    Not looking good.
  •  

    Buzz Clik

    (38,437 posts)
    5. Ohio should be his wheelhouse. Not quite like New England, but his message should resonate.
    Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:40 AM
    Mar 2016

    But, apparently not.

     

    oberliner

    (58,724 posts)
    11. People know who he is
    Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:11 PM
    Mar 2016

    He has been running for president for close to a year and has won numerous states.

    sufrommich

    (22,871 posts)
    6. If Clinton wins big in Michigan,Sanders numbers in Ohio
    Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:41 AM
    Mar 2016

    will shrink. I don't see him winning any of those states.

     

    Chan790

    (20,176 posts)
    35. It is.
    Wed Mar 9, 2016, 08:53 AM
    Mar 2016

    I never thought I'd say this but "If Sanders can hold tight through March 16 in pledged delegates, it becomes his race to lose."

    If he can pull off another couple wins in that time (perhaps OH and MO)...I think we can stick a fork in Clinton; her candidacy will be dead. The rest of the road to Philly looks like a hike up Everest for Hillary if Sanders has the momentum going past mid-March.

    marions ghost

    (19,841 posts)
    8. He needs to pick up whatever he can in March
    Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:50 AM
    Mar 2016

    so plenty of reason to keep support high as possible, even if not a win.

    Response to oberliner (Original post)

    BainsBane

    (53,029 posts)
    12. They seem excited about a 2 point poll lead in the Utah caucuses
    Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:27 PM
    Mar 2016

    I had no problem believing he can carry Utah.

    CajunBlazer

    (5,648 posts)
    16. Not really, ....
    Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:43 PM
    Mar 2016

    I am a lot more excited about Hillary's 26 point lead in Michigan, her 44 point lead in Mississippi and her 24 point lead in Florida.

    March Democratic Primaries and Caucuses – Polls and Projections

    CajunBlazer

    (5,648 posts)
    49. Don't look forward or behind you
    Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:19 PM
    Mar 2016

    While Sanders did much better than expected in Michigan, the states delegates will essentially be split. That's not good enough for Sanders. He has to start winning a lot of states by at least 60% to 40% margins to gain any lost ground.

    He has to do like Hillary did in Mississippi where her 44 point lead in the polls expanded to 62% in the primary meaning that she got 29 of the 36 delegates up for grabs in Mississippi and Sanders got 7 for a 22 point difference. Even with a narrow loss in Michigan Hillary was awarded 58 delegates to Sanders' 65 delegates according to the latest figures for a difference of -7. So yesterday Hillary increased her lead over Sanders by 15 delegates.

    And don't forget those pesky super delegates that with Sanders slipping even further behind, remain firmly in Hillary's column.

    And let me point out that Sanders received the support of 72% of the "independent" voters while Clinton received the support of a large majority of registered Democrats, meaning that independents were the reasons for Sanders' very narrow win. Let me remind you that Florida is a closed primary.

    So crow all you want about the big win in Michigan, but remember that now that the March 8th primaries are over, the net result is that your candidate is even further behind.

    kenfrequed

    (7,865 posts)
    50. Uhm
    Wed Mar 9, 2016, 05:02 PM
    Mar 2016

    Illinois and Ohio are both open primaries. We only need to hold the line or win or lose by a small amount. (Mayor Rahm Emmanuel isn't going to be very helpful for you guys) These states could swing either way pretty easily.

    You guys might get Florida and North Carolina.

    After that we have a lot of Bernie favored states leading right up to New York and California.

    If Bernie pulls ahead in regular delegate count of Hillary those Superdelegates are going to read the writing on the wall, identify where the heaviest turn outs and enthusiasm has been, and switch.



    I will grant you that this outcome is not certain. But Hillary is no longer a sure thing and she cannot take any states for granted again.

    CajunBlazer

    (5,648 posts)
    54. How is Sanders going to catch up...
    Wed Mar 9, 2016, 06:53 PM
    Mar 2016

    ...if he doesn't start winning states by large margins. He can't catch up wining states by a few percentage points. Clinton could tie Sanders in each of the remaining states and still lead by more than 200 delegates and win on the first vote at the convention. That's where all of those Super Delegates come into to play.

    So which states are you predicting that Sanders will win by margins like 70% to 30% or at least by 60% to 40%?

    kenfrequed

    (7,865 posts)
    57. Wait and see... primary season isn't over.
    Thu Mar 10, 2016, 02:27 PM
    Mar 2016

    There will be states after the 15th that are going to favor him. Washington, Oregon, and California are going to be good for Bernie as long as he hangs in close in Ohio and Illinois.

     

    Lizzie Poppet

    (10,164 posts)
    14. This is why a lot of people have predicted Bernie doesn't start closing the gap unti after the 15th.
    Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:40 PM
    Mar 2016

    Whether he'll be in too deep a hole is the question. The corporate media being all-in for Hillary might make the difference, as just enough Bernie voters lose hope in the face of a constant barrage of "Hillmentum" propaganda and marginalizing of Bernie's issues.

     

    oberliner

    (58,724 posts)
    18. I think he wins Idaho and the 4 caucuses that follow
    Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:35 PM
    Mar 2016

    Idaho, Utah, Alaska, Hawaii, Washington are all states he can win, but I think he will lose all the contests leading up to those.

    19. Bernie's previous wins v. his next wins...
    Mon Mar 7, 2016, 05:13 PM
    Mar 2016

    Check out the data from the last 50 years; upcoming states have an awful lot of importance.

    50 years of election results are not insignificant, and as our access to data grows exponentially, our ability to decipher it becomes more and more detrimental!

    Analytics@American created this infographic illustrating the states' accuracy in predicting the eventual nominee. The blog post also provides more insight into caucus and primary season.

    https://onlinebusiness.american.edu/blog/presidential-primary-predictions/

    Kali

    (55,007 posts)
    20. welcome to DU - friendly advice/reminder
    Mon Mar 7, 2016, 05:36 PM
    Mar 2016

    posting multiple times about your blog may get you in trouble for spamming. you are free to put a blurb and a link in your signature line instead.

     

    oberliner

    (58,724 posts)
    25. Very impressed that he won Michigan
    Wed Mar 9, 2016, 08:14 AM
    Mar 2016

    If he can win the states this Tuesday then the revolution is on for sure.

    Vinca

    (50,260 posts)
    28. I think he could pull out Ohio since his trade policy message is getting through.
    Wed Mar 9, 2016, 08:18 AM
    Mar 2016

    Forget the states that traditionally vote Republican - they go to Hillary.

    kenfrequed

    (7,865 posts)
    45. Depends
    Wed Mar 9, 2016, 12:18 PM
    Mar 2016

    How much of a factor will Rahm Emmanuel be?

    I suspect he will be hiding under his desk or away for vacation during the race.

     

    ieoeja

    (9,748 posts)
    59. Rahm is a non-factor. Democratic Committeemen run Chicago.
    Thu Mar 10, 2016, 03:39 PM
    Mar 2016

    And the Democratic Committeemen have slated Hillary. Personally, I have yet to meet a Hillary supporter in Chicago. And I have seen only one Hillary sign. But I don't doubt the city will go for Hillary anyway because lots of Democrats in Chicago vote the slate.

    The suburbs are also probably a lock for Hillary. Suburbs are the core constituency of Third-Wayers.

    Bernie should win "downstate". But that is a pretty small percentage of the vote.


    kenfrequed

    (7,865 posts)
    60. Turnout is a factor
    Thu Mar 10, 2016, 04:22 PM
    Mar 2016

    I was talking about the primary and whether Rahm will be a bit of an albatross for Hillary.

     

    oberliner

    (58,724 posts)
    34. I didn't think he would win any states between the day I posted and 3/15
    Wed Mar 9, 2016, 08:40 AM
    Mar 2016

    I was very impressed by his victory yesterday in Michigan. The sky is the limit at this point.

    merrily

    (45,251 posts)
    36. That's exactly why I thought you made 3/15 the cutoff--because you didn't think he could win any.
    Wed Mar 9, 2016, 08:58 AM
    Mar 2016

    crappy tactics

    Same for "outright win"

     

    oberliner

    (58,724 posts)
    37. Yes, that was the point of the question
    Wed Mar 9, 2016, 09:01 AM
    Mar 2016

    Could he win any of the primaries that were coming up in the next week. The answer was a resounding yes! I am very bullish on his chances at this point to say the least. I look forward to having the opportunity to vote for him myself next month.

     

    oberliner

    (58,724 posts)
    40. Bernie really has something special going on
    Wed Mar 9, 2016, 12:09 PM
    Mar 2016

    His win in Michigan was amazing.

    I now expect him to go on a run that will culminate in him getting the nomination.

    kenfrequed

    (7,865 posts)
    46. The Hill will probably take North Carolina
    Wed Mar 9, 2016, 12:20 PM
    Mar 2016

    And she will probably take Missouri as well. Ohio... well that is a bit open. The mayor of Chicago will be a factor.

     

    oberliner

    (58,724 posts)
    48. No she won't
    Wed Mar 9, 2016, 12:56 PM
    Mar 2016

    She was only leading by 10 points in February. The momentum is with Bernie. He has opened numerous campaign offices across the state and will be making several appearances there in the coming days. The more people get to know him, the more he wins.

     

    scscholar

    (2,902 posts)
    56. The only thing I've seen the past 12 hours about it...
    Thu Mar 10, 2016, 01:17 PM
    Mar 2016

    has been about how they're taking even more delegates from Sanders. Taking more delegates.

    MineralMan

    (146,285 posts)
    61. I don't know. We'll find out.
    Thu Mar 10, 2016, 04:29 PM
    Mar 2016

    Neither candidate will win any of them with 100% of the vote. All will allocated delegates according to the voting percentage of primary voters. Each state will allocate delegates to both candidates.

    We will see, on March 16, how the elections went, as always, the day after the election. Then, we won't have to guess. We'll have our answer.

    If you live in one of those states, please go and vote.

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