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Hillary Clinton often boasts about helping children, but she betrayed them as First Lady (Original Post) cannabis_flower Mar 2016 OP
This was a DARK mark of the Clinton era UMTerp01 Mar 2016 #1
I posted this because cannabis_flower Mar 2016 #2
This 2007 Edelman quote has been posted before.Are you aware that in 2013 Hillary was honored by the Tanuki Mar 2016 #6
I'm curious then cannabis_flower Mar 2016 #7
the quote is from a 2007 Amy Goodman interview with Edelman tk2kewl Mar 2016 #10
Shamefully misleading post. Hillary's focus has always been Hortensis Mar 2016 #3
Incomplete in what way? cannabis_flower Mar 2016 #5
:) Hortensis Mar 2016 #9
I'm not sure what to make of your cartoon. cannabis_flower Mar 2016 #14
Does that well being include being thrown in to homelessness? Live and Learn Mar 2016 #8
yeah, she's great for kids all over the world tk2kewl Mar 2016 #11
What a shady article. No surprise. Nt NCTraveler Mar 2016 #4
Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #12
kick. There is a difference between what she says and what she does. liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #13
 

UMTerp01

(1,048 posts)
1. This was a DARK mark of the Clinton era
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 12:22 AM
Mar 2016

I am an administrator in child welfare. In graduate school, I took a Social Welfare Policy in America class and I remember in class talking about how Bill Clinton pushed a lot of children into poverty with implementing welfare reform. When you have a system that is structured the way that it is, it was abominable to put forth such a policy and it has had DEVASTATING results. I sit on a lot of committees and go to a lot of conferences on child welfare and the statistics about child poverty and food insecurity and poor health outcomes at every SES level can definitely be linked to that so called "reform". Definitely a policy blight on the Clinton administration.

cannabis_flower

(3,764 posts)
2. I posted this because
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 07:39 AM
Mar 2016

I was hearing someone on TV talking about how Hillary had worked with Marion Wright Edelman as if to imply that Edelman had endorsed Clinton. I don't believe she has and I think the people hearing them talk about how she had worked with Edelman sort of lead them to believe that she has.

Tanuki

(14,914 posts)
6. This 2007 Edelman quote has been posted before.Are you aware that in 2013 Hillary was honored by the
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 08:31 AM
Mar 2016

Childrens Defense Fund at their 40th Anniversary Gala?

Said Marian Wright Edelman on that occasion:
“CDF is pleased to recognize Hillary Rodham Clinton, who has been a tireless voice for children. She’s brilliant. She cares deeply about children. She perseveres. She’s an incredibly hard worker, and she stays with it. She’s done extraordinarily well in everything she’s ever done. and I’m just so proud of her,” said Marian Wright Edelman, President of the Children’s Defense Fund. - See more at: http://www.childrensdefense.org/newsroom/cdf-in-the-news/press-releases/2013/honoring-hillary-clinton.html#sthash.LLZSYwrL.dpuf



Above is a picture of Edelman and Clinton that evening in 2013, six years after your quote. Btw, you did not disclose that the author of that article, Ben Norton, is a pro-Bernie partisan.

cannabis_flower

(3,764 posts)
7. I'm curious then
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 09:02 AM
Mar 2016

Last edited Tue Mar 8, 2016, 12:36 PM - Edit history (1)

what changed between these two dates?

Also, I didn't know it was written by a Sanders supporter, but so what?

If it was an article criticizing Sanders I'm sure it would be ok with you if a Clinton supporter wrote it.

There are plenty of them out there.

 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
10. the quote is from a 2007 Amy Goodman interview with Edelman
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 09:49 AM
Mar 2016

http://www.democracynow.org/2007/7/24/childrens_defense_funds_marian_wright_edelman

AMY GOODMAN: Marian Wright Edelman, we just heard Hillary Rodham Clinton. She used to be the head of the board of the Children’s Defense Fund, of the organization that you founded. But you were extremely critical of the Clintons. I mean, when President Clinton signed off on the, well, so-called welfare reform bill, you said, "His signature on this pernicious bill makes a mockery of his pledge not to hurt children." So what are your hopes right now for these Democrats? And what are your thoughts about Hillary Rodham Clinton?

MARIAN WRIGHT EDELMAN: Well, you know, Hillary Clinton is an old friend, but they are not friends in politics. We have to build a constituency, and you don’t — and we profoundly disagreed with the forms of the welfare reform bill, and we said so. We were for welfare reform, I am for welfare reform, but we need good jobs, we need adequate work incentives, we need minimum wage to be decent wage and livable wage, we need healthcare, we need transportation, we need to invest preventively in all of our children to prevent them ever having to be on welfare.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
3. Shamefully misleading post. Hillary's focus has always been
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 07:50 AM
Mar 2016

on the wellbeing of children, families and women. As soon as anyone reads this it should be obvious that this is at very best extremely incomplete. Not worth my time, but I will point out that Bill was president, not Hillary, and that historians consider her more liberal than he in that period.

cannabis_flower

(3,764 posts)
5. Incomplete in what way?
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 08:03 AM
Mar 2016

What part of this is not true?

Hillary, as First Lady, advocated strongly for the restructuring of welfare. Her former co-workers at CDF, on the other hand, were infuriated. CDF founder and President Marian Wright Edelman declared that President Clinton’s “signature on this pernicious bill makes a mockery of his pledge not to hurt children.

“Hillary Clinton is an old friend, but they are not friends in politics,” the CDF president told Democracy Now in a 2007 interview. At the time, CDF “profoundly disagreed with the forms of the welfare reform bill, and we said so,” Marian Wright Edelman explained.


In the second paragraph she is talking about Hillary, not her husband.

And this:

As recently as 2008, Hillary characterized the “welfare reform” she fervently campaigned for as First Lady as a success. She still maintains that welfare “should not be considered an anti-poverty program. It simply did not work.”


Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
8. Does that well being include being thrown in to homelessness?
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 09:44 AM
Mar 2016

Being unable to afford college? Being saddled with education debt? Being left an environment unfit to live in? Being imprisoned for life? Being sent to wars for corporate profit?

I think our children would be much better off without her help.

 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
11. yeah, she's great for kids all over the world
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 09:54 AM
Mar 2016

Casualties of the Iraq War (children)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511327192

Farmworkers, 4 Children Slain in Honduras
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101423404

Children's rights defender in Honduras beaten, detained
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014804017

Five Children Murdered After They Were Deported Back To Honduras
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1311927

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