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(85,977 posts)
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 08:36 AM Mar 2016

Koch brothers, NRA, and Heritage Foundation have all come to Sanders' defense in the last 24 hours

Matt Ortega ?@MattOrtega 15h15 hours ago
Koch brothers, NRA, and Heritage Foundation have all come to Bernie Sanders' defense in the last 24 hours.






NYT: N.R.A. Praises Bernie Sanders for Debate Comments on Gunmakers
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/03/07/n-r-a-praises-bernie-sanders-for-debate-comments-on-gunmakers/

NRA @NRA
Sen. Sanders was spot-on in his comments about gun manufacturer liability/PLCAA http://cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/sanders-what-youre-really-talking-about-ending-gun-manufacturing-america-I … #DemDebate


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Koch brothers, NRA, and Heritage Foundation have all come to Sanders' defense in the last 24 hours (Original Post) bigtree Mar 2016 OP
Let us keep it simple..... FarPoint Mar 2016 #1
A Hillary supporter suggesting that one "follow the money"?? Barack_America Mar 2016 #3
let's talk about "secondary gain" with the Clinton Foundation and the State Dept! nashville_brook Mar 2016 #4
+1,000,000 (dollars) dchill Mar 2016 #5
So i'ts ok follow the money if it's Hillary, but Bernie is too pure to question? nt BreakfastClub Mar 2016 #12
I am following politics... FarPoint Mar 2016 #23
Yes, Let's follow the money... Actual inbred oil (Koch/BP) relationships, like Hillary's Podesta. TheBlackAdder Mar 2016 #11
Oh, god fucking damnit. VulgarPoet Mar 2016 #2
Well, it didn't take long for the Bernie slur du jour to emerge. Vinca Mar 2016 #6
Bricks are not designed to be as efficient as possible in causing injury/death. Agschmid Mar 2016 #7
A lot good worker bees helping with her campaign. Broward Mar 2016 #9
Except that bricks aren't made to kill people. Guns are. nt msanthrope Mar 2016 #10
But they do kill people. So do my kitchen knives. So does drain cleaner. So does aspirin. Vinca Mar 2016 #13
Guns are made to kill people. Why not let a jury decide? nt msanthrope Mar 2016 #17
If you want Democrats to lose all elections from this day forward, do something Vinca Mar 2016 #24
Because the SoS never helps the gun industry with warmongering. intheflow Mar 2016 #16
Why not juries decide? nt msanthrope Mar 2016 #18
You mean for Clinton to be brought before an international war tribunal? intheflow Mar 2016 #19
Oh lordy....Kissenger? How long before she was holding the gun that shot Vince Foster? nt msanthrope Mar 2016 #21
Yeah but what if the bricks are sold in a high-crime area? cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #14
I saw them holding hands and exchanging lunches their moms made in the cafeteria! MrMickeysMom Mar 2016 #8
Going out of their way to toss Bernie a lifeline. oasis Mar 2016 #15
The RW knows Bernie would be easy to beat in the GE no matter who they nominate. riversedge Mar 2016 #22
ok, kids..,this is the TUESDAY meme...everyone got it? nt restorefreedom Mar 2016 #20

FarPoint

(12,293 posts)
1. Let us keep it simple.....
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 08:42 AM
Mar 2016

Follow the money..........there appears to be a secondary gain in this scenario.

nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
4. let's talk about "secondary gain" with the Clinton Foundation and the State Dept!
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 08:54 AM
Mar 2016

the lack of self-reflection is staggering.

TheBlackAdder

(28,169 posts)
11. Yes, Let's follow the money... Actual inbred oil (Koch/BP) relationships, like Hillary's Podesta.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 09:04 AM
Mar 2016

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Check out the link...

Fracking, KXL, If election, would she do a Chris Christie and let ExxonMobile out of a Climate Change/Pollution settlement?



Hillary Clinton rakes in money from fossil fuel interests


Here’s just a partial list of the fossil fuel–friendly bundlers who raised money for Clinton from April through June:


http://grist.org/climate-energy/hillary-clinton-rakes-in-money-from-fossil-fuel-interests/


Heather Podesta and Tony Podesta have raised $31,150 and $74,575, respectively. The power ex-couple are big-shot Democratic lobbyists. Tony’s brother John is Clinton’s campaign chair and former White House chief of staff to Bill Clinton. Even though John Podesta is considered a climate hawk, Tony and his ex-wife Heather represent fossil fuel companies. Heather’s recent past clients include Marathon Oil and Bill Koch’s Oxbow Carbon, a coal giant, and from 2004 to 2006 she lobbied for Koch Industries. Tony lobbied for BP in the wake of its disastrous Deepwater Horizon oil rig explosion, and through last year he represented Golden Pass, a company co-owned by ExxonMobil and Qatar Petroleum that wants to export liquefied natural gas. To be fair, they also work on behalf of renewable fuel companies — Tony represents SolarReserve, a solar power company, and Heather lobbies for the ethanol industry. You might call the Podestas the very embodiment of the Obama/Clinton “all of the above” energy policy.



But the contrast between her and her opponents is clear, and it’s indicative of real policy differences. O’Malley has laid out a set of strong, detailed proposals to combat climate change. These include not just measures Obama has begun taking, like regulating carbon emissions under the Clean Air Act, but ones he hasn’t, like adopting zero-tolerance regulation for methane leaks from oil and gas wells and denying new offshore oil leasing permits. Clinton has not endorsed any stances beyond Obama’s except for charging more for coal leases.



“Hillary Clinton’s position is stuck in the past,” says Jamie Henn, a spokesperson for 350 Action. “We have the tools to transition away from fossil fuels. What about all the jobs lost because of climate impacts? We need a president who is willing to make tough decisions about how to transition our economy in the face of climate risk.”




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Vinca

(50,237 posts)
6. Well, it didn't take long for the Bernie slur du jour to emerge.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 08:58 AM
Mar 2016

At least we won't have to discuss ghettos all day. (FYI - Bernie is right about the gun manufacturers. If you kill someone with a brick, the brick company isn't liable. Maybe his more common sense approach will reel in some GOP voters.)

Vinca

(50,237 posts)
13. But they do kill people. So do my kitchen knives. So does drain cleaner. So does aspirin.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 09:08 AM
Mar 2016

So does the chainsaw in the garage. Pillows have smothered people. How many lawsuits are out there against the car manufacturer for that lady who ran over all the people on the Las Vegas sidewalk? A manufacturer should not be held liable for a gun that has been legally purchased and is later used in a criminal act. If you're out target shooting and it blows up in your face, that's a reason to sue.

Vinca

(50,237 posts)
24. If you want Democrats to lose all elections from this day forward, do something
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 12:35 PM
Mar 2016

that will result in gun manufacturers closing their plants in this country. We need gun control, but when you end up punishing people who buy and use weapons legally, they vote Republican.

intheflow

(28,444 posts)
16. Because the SoS never helps the gun industry with warmongering.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 09:39 AM
Mar 2016
Hillary's responsible for more deaths due to weapons - both guns and weapons far worse than guns - than Sanders will ever be.

intheflow

(28,444 posts)
19. You mean for Clinton to be brought before an international war tribunal?
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 09:46 AM
Mar 2016

I don't think her activities amount to war crimes. At least, not compared with her buddy, Kissinger.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
14. Yeah but what if the bricks are sold in a high-crime area?
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 09:13 AM
Mar 2016

Or what if ads are used that make it seem like someone's dick is bigger when they buy a certain brick?

Or, what if the brick's manufacturer KNOWS the bricks are being used to build sheds that aren't up to code?

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