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TYT: Hillary Will Flip-Flop On TPP Again If Elected (Original Post) marmar Mar 2016 OP
But, but, but that would be a lie and she said... Karmadillo Mar 2016 #1
And nobody's surprised... nt VulgarPoet Mar 2016 #2
Not even a flip-flop - just an outright lie. djean111 Mar 2016 #3
Publicly tazkcmo Mar 2016 #4
tyt have zero credibility any more. eom artyteacher Mar 2016 #5
On the contrary, TYT has more credibility than almost any MSM outlet. marmar Mar 2016 #7
they uses to, until they started acting like mindless... artyteacher Mar 2016 #16
I don't think that word beedle Mar 2016 #22
With as many psychics as we have on DU rock Mar 2016 #6
Who? n/t JTFrog Mar 2016 #8
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #9
Does anyone doubt that, even for a second? Bettie Mar 2016 #10
Yes. TPP is a major reason they want her in the White House. senz Mar 2016 #25
No shit. Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #11
I certainly hope so Freddie Stubbs Mar 2016 #12
And anyone actually surprised by that... Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #13
Of course she will. Did we ever doubt she would backstab us over and over once elected. Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #14
Come on Hillary supporters defend this.! JRLeft Mar 2016 #15
of course she will dana_b Mar 2016 #17
of course; and, she never really said she'd oppose it; she used weasel words; it's her treaty, for amborin Mar 2016 #18
#whichhillary panader0 Mar 2016 #19
she will claim some side deal makes it all better for workers and the environment tk2kewl Mar 2016 #20
Ayup. AzDar Mar 2016 #21
Of course she will.... Punkingal Mar 2016 #23
Of course. She never really "flipped." senz Mar 2016 #24
yep oldandhappy Mar 2016 #26
WELL, SHE GOT PAID NEARLY $2 MILLION BY CANADIAN PIPELINE Herman4747 Mar 2016 #27
Damn vintx Mar 2016 #32
Isn't "Flip-Flop" an invective that Republicans use against Democrats? procon Mar 2016 #28
Spin cycle in overdrive. marmar Mar 2016 #29
Not exactly the erudite discussion I had in mind, but procon Mar 2016 #30
I don't think republicans own flip flop TheFarseer Mar 2016 #31
 

beedle

(1,235 posts)
22. I don't think that word
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 01:32 PM
Mar 2016

means what you think it means.

First, it simply means someone who promotes a cause.

Second, they promote anti-establishment, while the word can apply to that case, it is more normally used for those promoting the establishment (ie: Hillary supporters.)

Using it as though it was only had a negative connotation is dishonest --- but that's what we've comes to expect from the HRC coronation team.

rock

(13,218 posts)
6. With as many psychics as we have on DU
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 10:53 AM
Mar 2016

We shouldn't have any trouble at all picking the correct candidate!

Response to marmar (Original post)

Bettie

(16,089 posts)
10. Does anyone doubt that, even for a second?
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 11:01 AM
Mar 2016

I certainly don't.

TPP is wanted by the people who fund her. Of course she'll give them what they want.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
25. Yes. TPP is a major reason they want her in the White House.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 01:45 PM
Mar 2016

TPP will pretty much finish off America as a functioning democracy.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
13. And anyone actually surprised by that...
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 11:10 AM
Mar 2016

...should be closely supervised and kept away from sharp objects and unprotected power outlets.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
14. Of course she will. Did we ever doubt she would backstab us over and over once elected.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 11:17 AM
Mar 2016

Best not nominate her: the fewer chances she has to mess up the part and the country, the better. Third Way's time has come and gone, and Clinton is stuck in the 20th century if she refuses to face that reality.

 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
20. she will claim some side deal makes it all better for workers and the environment
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 01:20 PM
Mar 2016

just like Bill did with NAFTA

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
24. Of course. She never really "flipped."
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 01:38 PM
Mar 2016

She suddenly expressed reservations, made qualified statements -- after Bernie got into the race.

So far, Mrs. Clinton hasn't met a job-destroying, democracy undermining trade agreement she couldn't love.

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
26. yep
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 01:51 PM
Mar 2016

no lies, honest! She said it did not meet her standards. She will tweak it and suddenly it will be OK!!! Absolutely!

procon

(15,805 posts)
28. Isn't "Flip-Flop" an invective that Republicans use against Democrats?
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 02:37 PM
Mar 2016

They use it as an aspersion to hide their own rigid inability to adapt or be confident enough to see where a different course of action is needed and be flexible enough to change their positions to achieve better results. Democrats are better that that.

Republicans seems to think this is a strange and terrible thing, so they stay locked to their bad decision forever... like gifting us with 40 years of failed trickle down economics. But here's thing; everyone shifts their thinking and changes their minds on a daily basis. Whether you are SATM, a working class American, a business owner, or a political leader, your achievements and successes depend on your ability to adapt and make new decisions as needed. Democrats do that all the time.

Yet, now we have Democrats (?) here who are actually advocating that one of our own presidential candidates should mimic the rigid Republican automatons who are too paralysed by fear and too intellectually bullheaded to recognize when changes are called for and make decisive new decisions... which Democrats have always done.

procon

(15,805 posts)
30. Not exactly the erudite discussion I had in mind, but
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 02:47 PM
Mar 2016

I can see that you gave it all you've got.

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